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[edit on 3-8-2008 by Kellter]

Any ideas?

The post is dated 2004. Am I missing something here?

What is missing is more important, I take it that refers to the scatter graph?

[edit on 3-8-2008 by Sendran]

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It also shows that it was edited on Friday.

Ever seen Con Air? Could the scattergraph's dots actually be holes and when overlaid onto the picture on the thread it reveals the letters?

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whats the thing with Caesar and so on?

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I think it refers to the Caesar Cipher. I think it was used to solve one of the previous clues.

This could be a list of how the clues are solved.

Can anyone tell me whether or not the scatter graph clue has been solved yet?

As far as I know it has not been solved. However, I just got back ten minutes ago, so I could have missed something.

It will be observed that the missing component is more important that what is seen.

The cycle of triangles build words and symbols are diagonally true.


The above 2 had me thinking, just throwing ideas out, that the opposite sides of the x and y axis were not visible so I added them. The Cycle of triangles made me think of a pyramid and noticed there was a dot where the middle is.

Don't know about the color aspect but the "it should be noted twice that the rotation of glyphs" probably means we need to rotate the image twice or something along those lines.

Hey I think it must of been solved, else why would it change? Possibly a key or for use in the next games??

Thanks to the TinWiki editor for sorting out the page, I was useless at it (enthusiastic tough)!

I did note that he left the Godgame link on there, is that because its relevant or cause we already put it under the red herring section?

Gonna have a crack at the next clue.

Nice work everyone, I so impressed with the skills out there!



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Originally posted by LestatG
Hey I think it must of been solved, else why would it change? Possibly a key or for use in the next games??

The new clue is a hint on how to solve it, maybe? I dunno?

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Are people discussing this elsewhere, or is this the only thread? ATS Chat? Hope not, can't do that until 200 posts.

Like the image, just on Photoshop myself trying things. I can't get that Con Air thing to work, I hoped I was on to something there!

No discussion elsewhere that I am aware of. Chat is down I believe, I have a site with chat but don't know if its appropriate to post the site, its a general discussion forum for generation Xers.

Thinking about the color thing...

I noticed that if I try to fill use a bucket fill to change the back round from black to white, it goes orange. I thought it was just b/c I'm a dummy when it comes to Gimp....tried it in something more my speed (read MS Paint lol) and it does the same thing. A lot of the colors are a little screwy. Does that happen for anyone else?

Is the text on the 828201 post relevant to all clues past, or just our scatter graph conundrum? On the tinwiki it says 6 clues, making the scattergraph our 7th. There are 6 obvious hints on the text, but 7 clues to solve.

Can anybody help in eliminating the hints from the list if they have relevance to previous clues that have already been solved? Then we could concentrate on the remaining hints to solve the current problem. The tinwiki site does not give the method of solution for some of the previous clues.

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Just tried that, it happened too. I'm using Photoshop CS3. The mode is "indexed color".

Hopefully someone more clued up in these matters could assist?

Did you notice the dots and dashes at the bottom?

[edit on 3-8-2008 by Sendran]

There's probably a really simple answer as to why it does that.
I'm completely retarded when it comes to certain things.

I think you're right. I just used an online Morse code translator to no avail.

TTINES or ETTINESE.

I don't think there's a morse code angle here. We need to know whether these clues relate to this graph.

Maybe when it says that the things we cant see are more important than the things we can, it's refferring to the missing letters from the previous puzzles. Just a thoought.

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Transcription:

THE EIGHTH DAY OF THE EIGHTH MONTH OF THE EIGHTH YEAR WILL SEE THE RISE OF A NEW CHALLENGE.

A REVELATION OF THE GRAND CONSPIRACY OF THE AGES WILL BE PRESENTED TO THOSE WORTHY OF THE TEST.

CUNNING SKILLS OF CRYPTOGRAPHY AND LOGIC WILL BE REQUIRED OF THOSE WHO TAKE THE CHALLENGE.

IT WILL BE OBSERVED THAT A CYCLE OF ADDITIVE COLORS IS IMPORTANT AS WELL AS THAT OF SIMPLE DOTS.

IT WILL BE OBSERVED THAT SIXTEEN IS IMPORTANT IN NUMBER AND COLOR, BUT THAT CAESAR SEQUENTIALLY SHIFTS HIS COLORS.

IT WILL BE OBSERVED THAT THE CYCLE OF TRIANGLES BUILDS WORDS AND SYMBOLS THAT ARE DIAGONALLY TRUE.

IT WILL BE OBSERVED THAT CAESAR SLIDES ACROSS ON EACH, AND JUXTAPOSITION IS NOT WHAT IT SEEMS.

IT WILL BE OBSERVED, TWICE, THAT THE ROTATION OF GLYPHS BUILDS MEANING.

AND FINALLY IT WILL BE OBSERVED THAT THE MISSING COMPONENT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN WHAT IS SEEN.

Thoughts:

The image is named clue080808.gif, so perhaps this is a hint to the previous puzzle, as well as some information about the game as a whole.

The top and bottom banner text are different colors, I'm going to go and check if there's subtle variation in color between the letters or groups of letters in each line.

The 'sixteen' is important, could refer to hexadecimal coding, base-16 numbers, often used when representing color values (eg, in HTML).

Caesar sequentially shifts his colors could refer to a Caesar cipher (which offsets lookup of coded-letters into an alphabet to get plaintext). Sequentially shifting colors could refer to using the banner text as the 'alphabet', and sequentially looking up one offset value in one group of text, the next in another, the next in another, and so on, in a cycle.

The 'cycle of triangles' could refer to the Greek letter 'Delta', which is used as a symbol for the change between two values, eg, the idea of using each height in the dot grid as an added offset from the last point, instead of an absolute value, to get a coded letter.

'Twice, that the rotation of glyphs builds meaning', could refer to the fact that there's a two-stage calculation for each plaintext letter -- first, by applying an offset value from the last coded letter (the grid?), second by a Caesar lookup using different portions of banner text as alphabet.

'The missing component' stuff, and the obviously-deliberate use of 'finally' seems to indicate that the missing letters and errors we've found in puzzles so far are significant to the 'final question' of the game!