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Originally posted by Asnivor
About 5 years ago I bought a book in a charity shop by J.W. Dunne called 'An Experiment with Time'. I think it's one of the most interesting and thought provoking books I have ever read.
Amazon Link
From it's wikipedia page:
AS MEANS of communicating have expanded—from printing to the telephone, radio, television, and the Internet—the flow of persuasive messages has dramatically accelerated. This communications revolution has led to information overload, as people are inundated by countless messages from every quarter. Many respond to this pressure by absorbing messages more quickly and accepting them without questioning or analyzing them.
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Good educators present all sides of an issue and encourage discussion. Propagandists relentlessly force you to hear their view and discourage discussion. Often their real motives are not apparent. They sift the facts, exploiting the useful ones and concealing the others. They also distort and twist facts, specializing in lies and half-truths. ...
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Be selective: A completely open mind could be likened to a pipe that lets just anything flow through it—even sewage. No one wants a mind contaminated with poison. Solomon, a king and educator in ancient times, warned: “Anyone inexperienced puts faith in every word, but the shrewd one considers his steps.” (Proverbs 14:15) So we need to be selective. We need to scrutinize whatever is presented to us, deciding what to accept and what to reject.
However, we do not want to be so narrow that we refuse to consider facts that can improve our thinking. How can we find the right balance? By adopting a standard with which to measure new information. ...
Use discernment: Discernment is “acuteness of judgment.” It is “the power or faculty of the mind by which it distinguishes one thing from another.” A person with discernment perceives subtleties of ideas or things and has good judgment.
Using discernment, we will be able to recognize those who are merely using “smooth talk and complimentary speech” in order to “seduce the hearts of guileless ones.” (Romans 16:18) Discernment enables you to discard irrelevant information or misleading facts and distinguish the substance of a matter. But how can you discern when something is misleading?
Put information to the test: “Beloved ones,” said John, a first-century Christian teacher, “do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions.” (1 John 4:1) Some people today are like sponges; they soak up whatever they come across. It is all too easy to absorb whatever is around us.
But it is far better for each individual personally to choose what he will feed his mind. It is said that we are what we eat, and this can apply to food for both the body and the mind. No matter what you are reading or watching or listening to, test to see whether it has propagandistic overtones or is truthful.
Moreover, if we want to be fair-minded, we must be willing to subject our own opinions to continual testing as we take in new information. We must realize that they are, after all, opinions. Their trustworthiness depends on the validity of our facts, on the quality of our reasoning, and on the standards or values that we choose to apply.
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How does God view the “wisdom” offered by human philosophy?
1 Cor. 1:19-25: “It is written: ‘I will make the wisdom of the wise men perish, and the intelligence of the intellectual men I will shove aside.’ Where is the wise man? Where the scribe? Where the debater of this system of things? Did not God make the wisdom of the world foolish? For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through its wisdom did not get to know God, God saw good through the foolishness [as it appears to the world] of what is preached to save those believing. . . . Because a foolish thing of God [as the world views it] is wiser than men, and a weak thing of God [as the world may see it] is stronger than men.”
originally posted by: whereislogic
a reply to: NorEaster
Nice sales pitch. Does this philosophical product have any downsides?
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: NorEaster
Can you provide the name of the author of the book you mention please because the links take me to a url shortener.
I can't find the book on google either.
The word 'autogenesium' isn't even recognised by google....and provided no links.
Thanks.
Did you write the book you are promoting?
It ends up functioning as a sales pitch for the book (whether or not it was intended that way).
This is the most comprehensive and razor-specific examination and explanation of the factual nature of physical reality as a whole. [i.e., the latest knowledge/science or insight into reality, based on "the most comprehensive and razor-specific examination" no less, wow]
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No other theory presents both opposing ... theoretical infrastructures ... with such specificity and responsible discipline.
This is the most expansive and comprehensive Theory of Everything that's ever been published...[sounds a bit exaggerated; one would expect the book to be a bit more popular and widely circulated if any of this really were true, a bit more like the Bible for example]
“IN THE abundance of wisdom there is an abundance of vexation, so that he that increases knowledge increases pain.” (Eccl. 1:18) This was the inspired conclusion of wise King Solomon. But why did he reach this conclusion? Should it deter us from gaining more knowledge?
It should be remembered that, in the book of Ecclesiastes, Solomon was investigating the “calamitous occupation” of sinful, dying mankind. He said: “I set my heart to seek and explore wisdom in relation to everything that has been done under the heavens—the calamitous occupation that God has given to the sons of mankind in which to be occupied.” (Eccl. 1:13, 14) The wisdom and knowledge Solomon investigated therefore did not here include that which is needed to gain divine approval and blessing.
It is one’s increasing in human or mundane knowledge that can increase pain. Such knowledge can bring frustration and irritation. This is because one becomes painfully aware of the fact that so much in imperfect human society is deficient and beyond man’s ability to straighten out. Solomon highlighted this when he said: “That which is made crooked cannot be made straight, and that which is wanting cannot possibly be counted.”—Eccl. 1:15.
Then, too, the human life-span is very short. Hence, as a man increases in knowledge and wisdom, he begins to realize how limited his opportunities are to use his knowledge and wisdom. This makes it even more frustrating when problems and unfavorable conditions hamper his efforts to employ his knowledge and wisdom.
But this does not mean one should shun all human knowledge in order to avoid pain.
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But not all human knowledge and wisdom are beneficial. ...
What is the origin of human philosophies?
They come from people who have limitations: The Bible informs us: “It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.” (Jer. 10:23) History testifies that trying to ignore that limitation has not produced good results. On one occasion, “Jehovah proceeded to answer Job out of the windstorm and say: ‘Who is this that is obscuring counsel by words without knowledge? Gird up your loins, please, like an able-bodied man, and let me question you, and you inform me. Where did you happen to be when I founded the earth? Tell me, if you do know understanding.’” (Job 38:1-4) (Humans by nature have limitations. Additionally, their experience in life is relatively brief and is usually confined to one culture or one environment. The knowledge they possess is thus restricted, and everything is interconnected to such an extent that they constantly find aspects that they had not adequately considered. Any philosophy that they originate will reflect these limitations.)
They are developed by humans who are imperfect: “All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” (Rom. 3:23) “There exists a way that is upright before a man, but the ways of death are the end of it afterward.” (Prov. 14:12) (Because of such imperfection, human philosophies often reflect a basic selfishness that leads perhaps to momentary pleasure but also to frustration and much unhappiness.)
They are influenced by demonic spirits: “The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.” (1 John 5:19) “The one called Devil and Satan . . . is misleading the entire inhabited earth.” (Rev. 12:9) “You at one time walked according to the system of things of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit that now operates in the sons of disobedience.” (Eph. 2:2) (Philosophies that encourage people to disobey God’s wholesome and upright requirements reflect such an influence. No wonder that, as history testifies, human philosophies and schemes have often brought grief to large segments of humankind.)
originally posted by: whereislogic
a reply to: NorEaster
Like I said:
It ends up functioning as a sales pitch for the book (whether or not it was intended that way).
There's a reason I phrased it that way. I already suspected you are not deliberately using a sales pitch. You're just easily impressed with philosophies and views that are “falsely called ‘knowledge’” (1Ti 6:20) because they ‘tickle your ears’ (2Ti 4:3,4), among other related reasons. As demonstrated by the phrases:
This is the most comprehensive and razor-specific examination and explanation of the factual nature of physical reality as a whole. [i.e., the latest knowledge/science or insight into reality, based on "the most comprehensive and razor-specific examination" no less, wow]
...
No other theory presents both opposing ... theoretical infrastructures ... with such specificity and responsible discipline.
This is the most expansive and comprehensive Theory of Everything that's ever been published...[sounds a bit exaggerated; one would expect the book to be a bit more popular and widely circulated if any of this really were true, a bit more like the Bible for example]
But are you capable of giving us any downsides for this philosophical product? Book reviews don't always have to be 100% positive you know, praising the book as the next best thing that happened to humanity and human 'insight' into reality isn't being very realistic... (especially not when one considers the author being described as such on Amazon: "...not a physicist, a cosmologist, or a theologian. He doesn’t have a PhD in Philosophy, Neurobiology, Astrophysics, or Cognitive Sciences. ...spent time under the tutelage of a transcendent master, left the confines of his corporeal body, or experienced the death of his ego"; gurus like this guy talking about OBE's to make themselves appear more special usually have quite the ego, so I doubt that)
I have a feeling that you would have plenty of supposed downsides to point out if we were talking about the Bible. Then again, you would probably not recommend it at all. Now, that's a book that can really be read for free. No special paid subscriptions needed.
Obviously, an Amazon Kindle Unlimited account isn't free.
originally posted by: NorEaster
What downside is there to examining a unique examination of the origins and nature of what exists as actual?
You seem a little threatened by my posts here, and that's pretty surprising. What's there to be afraid of?
originally posted by: whereislogic
originally posted by: NorEaster
You seem a little threatened by my posts here, and that's pretty surprising. What's there to be afraid of?
Not your posts, that's for sure. I don't feel threatened, if anyone or anything is threatened it's your mind and your thinking (and you're not the only one under attack by the enemy whose existence you probably have a hard time swallowing, or getting to grips with in any consideration regarding reality). My commentary was just meant as a heads-up to encourage self-reflection (for anyone here). And you have a right to know that you're being tricked with philosophies and views that are “falsely called ‘knowledge’” (1Ti 6:20), as explained in more detail before.
“Also, they will greedily exploit you with counterfeit words.” (2 Peter 2:3a)
It would be downright unneighbourly for me not to at least give a heads-up when I'm seeing someone heading towards the quickmire of human philosophy (as described earlier with all its limitations and flaws). Or to hand them a branch if they're already stuck in it sinking quickly.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: NorEaster
Just out of interest.... how many people have downloaded the book?
originally posted by: NorEaster
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: NorEaster
Just out of interest.... how many people have downloaded the book?
As for you, I remember your aggressive competitive nature from some years ago, and clearly your ego is still driving you as hard as ever.