Why Aren't People These Days LiVinG As God Wishes From Them ?

Well, since i'm a christian and a true believer in My Lord and
Savior "Yashua"(Jesus), I find it quite hard not to understand what my
people(christians), specially teens are waiting from this life, i mean they call themselves christians??What are they waiting for(i'm not abusing
anyone, but in my case, at school and in my society i find quite a large
number of christians, yet they never did anything that proves that they're
christians, for they do the exact opposite, like cursing, lusting, provoking
etc....).In other words, why can't anyone from those teens live at least
one day in happiness, and when i say happiness i mean praising their God with their actions...For an instance: u're a good student at skuul or
college, u got good grades and u're fully confirmed and satisfied of ur
present and future...But there's only one problem, u never thought if ur
God is pleased with u !! I mean u live ur life for the sake of studying
getting married and getting a job, taking care of ur family...But never
never thought if u ever satisfied ur God, in my case(christians) it is Jesus
who u have to satisfy!!! When, where, and how ? It's not the climax of this
article; But the whole meaning from this thing, is to try to awake people
that grades and happiness aren't everything in life...Ex: How can u be
happy with ur grades and with ur life when u are too small in God's eyes
(dispite that God loves everyone), how can u eat and drink and sleep and
yet u're small in ur God's eyes..For u never tried to talk with him or
council him, not even tell him thank u for all the things that happens in
u're life(whether Bad or Good), for God sometimes permits the bad things
to happen in order to accomplish the good things..

As a conclusion for all the people that are still living apart from their
God and yet never paid attention "to him knocking on their doors", i hope
that he'll awake u to realize that u're mission in this life is to praise ur lord
and live ur life with him(despite of anything u do, always think if it's right
or wrong, and the guide to this is the bible, for i'm a christian!! No offence
to any person that feels like there's nothing like "God", he might have to
reconsider, i'll help him if he needs that help...For in the end, ur only hope
is in ur God(jesus), who shall judge u on judgement day, and from ur
actions and love u'll be judged by the Prince oF PeaCe (yashua=jesus) !!



P.S : This msg is directed to my people specially christians, for others they might find it like any normal topic, but for christians they must see it as there own objective!! U're a Christian than act like one


Thx for ur co-operation ..GoD-Bless !!


He DieD For Me, I Live For HiM
Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed !



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[edit on 10-6-2008 by 12m8keall2c]

Oh my, a purist.

Welcome to ATS, GJIML, your opinion is most welcome here.

Your faith is comforting.

so you are saying that we only got one shot at life and we have to live it prasing some guy in the skies, whom may not even be real?

and then when we die we go to heaven and we praise him for all eternity?

this god you talk about sounds like a egomaniac who has no friends, so he slaved the whole human race.

i say we should stand up and fight for our freedom from religious idiols.

REJECT FALSE IDOLS!!!
[-thank science i dont beleive in him-]

God sometimes permits the bad things
to happen in order to accomplish the good things.????????






[edit on 10-6-2008 by CzErased]

Originally posted by CzErased

REJECT FALSE IDOLS!!!
[-thank science i dont beleive in him-]

[edit on 10-6-2008 by CzErased]

But you do believe in him to a certain extent.

Considering how even the mere word "God" exists within your mind, there is scientific evidence that supports the existence of God, albeit within the mind.

Science cannot prove whether or not God is sitting in some extra-dimensionary capacity, so i'm going to stick with what i know until then.

You say to reject false idols - in favour of whom, exactly?

50 cent?

If there is such a thing as a creator God, i don't think he would even bother with meddling with us, or looking for our praise. He would have created this system (the universe) that conforms to a precise set of rules (a very small number of which we have discovered with science) and just let it go. The laws of science are very precise - when they don't work it means we have got them wrong.
Why shouldn't the afterlife (or heaven if you prefer) be ordered in the same precise way, without any need for an entity (or his son, that is actually him at the same time - never really understood that) controlling things?

reply to post by Anti-Tyrant


in favour of facts and truth

Considering how even the mere word "God" exists within your mind, there is scientific evidence that supports the existence of God, albeit within the mind. ???

okay lets play that game --- unicorn, spaghetti monster

reply to post by CzErased


Both the unicorn and the flying spaghetti monster exist to some capacity, albeit within the realm of fiction.

Science has also proven the existence of the flying spaghetti monster, at least within the mind.

So your "game" doesn't really serve any purpose, does it?

Let's try this another way, seeing as you took the first shot.



Unicorns and flying spaghetti monsters do not exist yet.

Who is to say that in 100 or 200 years We won't have meddled with horse DNA for the benefit of some rich man's daughter, thereby creating a horse with a horn on it's face.

Would you consider that to be a unicorn, or just a freak of nature?

As for flying spaghetti monsters, i imagine some south-park fanatic will probably have a hand in that one.

reply to post by CzErased


Man for God's sake i never told u not to live ur life!!!
Live it normally, but there's someone who deserve to being praised for the sake of giving us this life!!His name is GoD..know if u don't believe in God tell me one purpose for why i should believe in the devil (despite that there's good and evil in this world,the devil and god, and if u believe in the devil u must believe in god)...anyways, what will u lose if u pray for god, couple of minutes from ur life, i mean u lose abt 8 hours while u sleep, does it mean u shouldn't sleep.Moreover, is it by prestige that u don't like to pray or atleast say thanks for God(if u believe in him), atleast pray for the food u're eating and for the life u're living, for god created u to be free in ur life and choices, and u chose the wrong way(by not praising the lord). Very simple and it's aleready prooved:
1-what a coincidence that we have an O-zone on earth and life on this planet!
2-what a coincidence that the Sun is far enough not to be Barbe-Qued
3-what a coincidence that we have gravity so we want directly floo to outer space...

Science identify this coincidety to be that a brilliant and intellegint mind designed this universe..and this intelligent mind is called and knwon to be "God", and thus God can't be seen, we saw him in Jesus-Christ!! The one that died for us and for our sins in order to get salvation, and live after death...either u perish in hell for not believing in this story as u call, or u gain eternal life in heaven for believing in Jesus ....plz i will answer to any question u ask, i wanna know what's the cause of making u so pecimistic..any question i'll answer..For i need ur own sake...and plz any ordinary human being knows that everything comes from something, we came from God..And u wanna know that God loves u and he want ur sake to be redeemed, that's why he sent Jesus(his own image), the bible is like a guide, if u can't live by it, u're weak If the creator(God) didn't love his creation, then why life !!

Hope u'll understand any question u need i'll try to answer it...

MaYbE gOd wAnTs tHeM tO hAvE tHe iLluSiOn oF a fReE wIlL?

mAyBe yOu dOn'T kNoW tHaT mAnY pEoPlE?

JuSt dO tHe bEsT iN yOuR oWn lIfE, aNd sToP jUdGiNg oThErS?

HMMM

well I created both of my children ... when they were taken out of me, they were alive and I raised them.

I told them, don't kill... don't covet... don't commit adultery... and all of the commandments but in a language they would understand...

And then I said, if you do any of the things that I have told you not to do, I will kill you. I was of course joking when I said that!!

But, I told them, if you kill, then expect to be killed... that means you will have to die and experience another life as the other person and be killed.... so I think they really understood that.

The thing is I love my kids so much that if they forget what I have told them and do something I have warned them not to do, then I still love them.... and would never destroy them.

I would however destroy negative aspects of my Daughter's personality.... (she is a teenager) -> so some aspects of her personality definitely need to be destroyed... and then of course, she decides on her own accord she would like to destroy a part of herself to grow and learn.

wishing for something, doesn't make it happen, unless you're . . . crap well that doesn't work at all now does it?

On a more serious note . . . If you were an all powerful entity that created the universe. Would you rather people loved you because they truly loved you? Or because they had to/you "forced" them to?

To make a poor analogy . . . let's say you're a very annoying rich dude who can read peoples minds. (hence why you're annoying and rich:lol How would you feel if you knew that the only reason your subordinates, or "friends" or your trophy wife, or your spoiled kids "loved" (and i'm using the word very loosely here) you was because you were rich?

I would imagine it wouldn't be very fulfilling . . .

Then again . . . if you're G*d, you are "omniscient" and "omnipotent"? Then why would you need fulfillment? Unless of course, you temporarily inhibit yourself, so that you might enjoy things more. Gee, that sounds awfully familiar! Isn't there some kind of liquid that people drink? On weekends?

. . .

eureka! that's it! G*d's a drunkard!

of course i'm kidding, but i have to stop somewhere, so why not on a comical note?

i'll continue with my ramblings if anyone thinks i'm on to something . . .

[edit on 6/10/2008 by JPhish]

reply to post by GJIML


You will probably be much wiser when you get out of middle school. After high school you will be wiser still and might have enough wisdom to divorce yourself from the dogma of organized religion which shackles you in your thinking and afterlife choices.

I have yet to see a preacher who follows the teachings of Jesus.

Jesus did not preach in churches. Jesus did not take up a collection to buy cars and houses and churches for himself. Jesus did not own a million dollar house and have a collection of fine chariots. Jesus did not dress in expensive suits. Nor did his followers.

IN OTHER WORDS JESUS DID NOT STEAL FROM HIS FOLLOWERS TO MAKE HIMSELF RICHER.

Originally posted by Thurisaz

so some aspects of her personality definitely need to be destroyed... and then of course, she decides on her own accord she would like to destroy a part of herself to grow and learn.

I'm not really one to talk about other people's lives, but i'd say your daughter was pretty sharp.

It's often the case with youths that if they don't understand something, then they'll let you know about it.

In her case, i think she may have become aware of something but cannot put a name to it, and because she cannot put a name to it she cannot ask you about it.

Which may explain her behaviour...

Anyway, to all the people hatin' on the OP;

Give it a rest, he's giving a good message on how people these days appear to have thrown moral conduct out the window.

I actually applaud the Purist mentality whenever i find it, i find it truly worthy of praise.

Blaming him for the crimes of the Christian organisation is pointless, as after all he might have absolutely nothing to do with the actual christian group itself!

Do you really think it's such a crime to believe in something?

I'll admit that the establishment is at wrong, but there are a great many simple, humble believers out there who would wish no harm to come to any man, woman or child, and would infact wish the opposite.

They are not deserving of this apathetic nonsense that is flung in their general direction every time one of them speaks up.

i will admit to having skimmed over the replies for the time being (don't have much time right now)...... but the first thing i want to ask is this.

are you sure that your question is not so much "why aren't ppl these days living as God wishes for them?" as much as it is "why aren't ppl these days living as i think God wishes for them?"

i mean, you interpret things your way and although that seems the obvious way to you, that is bc it is the obvious way FOR YOU and you can't necessarily throw that obvious way on everyone else.

God is not a generic God ya know. you can't say that he doesn't reveal himself differently to you than he does others.

i would probably, according to most christians, be in gross violation of what you consider God's will, but that is why i am thankful that "christians" are not my judge.

Originally posted by Anti-Tyrant
Anyway, to all the people hatin' on the OP;

Give it a rest, he's giving a good message on how people these days appear to have thrown moral conduct out the window.

I actually applaud the Purist mentality whenever i find it, i find it truly worthy of praise.

Blaming him for the crimes of the Christian organisation is pointless, as after all he might have absolutely nothing to do with the actual christian group itself!

Do you really think it's such a crime to believe in something?

I'll admit that the establishment is at wrong, but there are a great many simple, humble believers out there who would wish no harm to come to any man, woman or child, and would infact wish the opposite.

They are not deserving of this apathetic nonsense that is flung in their general direction every time one of them speaks up.

it is not wrong to believe in something, but it is not fair to take YOUR interpretation and thrust it onto the lives others, condemning them.

you believe in jesus, right? (or at least the OP does). remember, jesus, according to the bible anyway wasn't interested in those who imposed THEIR personal will onto ppl (the pharisees, etc), but rather those types that are much like the types that the OP is addressing. seems kind of arrogant to me.

i am not attacking the OP, but when you post something like that, you are asking others to consider your position and therefore you should be willing to consider other ppl's position.

consistency in so called "sin" is more of a good character trait in my eyes than inconsistency in "religious dogma" lol

In my humble opinion, we shoudln't have to live our day's by the rules of a mythical being.. i mean, that's what god is.. mythical, he is as real as dragons and bigfoot.

Most people in this age are coming to realise that living by the book (the bible) is not necessarily the best way to be in modern society. Look at the number of wars and conflicts in the world that are due to such strong beliefs in 'God' that these beliefs override common sense and morals.

By all means, keep your mind open to the possibility of god, but don't let the Lord control your life, If Judgment day comes and I am judged not worthy of going to Heaven having lived my entire life as a good, honest, noble, loving, but agnostic human being, I don't think Heaven is the place I want to be. I am proud to be myself and live in the way I think is right and I don't need ANYONE preaching to me about how I should conduct the one shot I have at living here on Earth.

Originally posted by justamomma

consistency in so called "sin" is more of a good character trait in my eyes than inconsistency in "religious dogma" lol

Well, i apologise but i happen to believe the opposite, so long as the religious individual in question isn't completely associated with the runnings of his local church.

As for your point on believing in Jesus, No, i don't.

I just happen to think that any action taken towards alleviating the suffering of others happens to be a very positive and creative action.

I don't see what the OP is doing as judgement, but as a form of cynicism.

It's just that thanks to the chaos that the internet has inflicted on society, we can no longer tell the difference between a fearless believer and a believer who is only believing because his momma told him to.

Whatever happened to the days whereby the faithful were balanced scholars with bellies of fire, i wonder?