Obama and the Bilderbergers -PROOF!

reply to post by daemonicsoul


This is a theory that I had for a while now. Perhaps that will be exactly what the elitist need to bring martial law?

If this is the plan, I wonder if Obama knows?
Perhaps this article from the huffington post was a public but subtle threat?

Jamie83, thanks for this.
Take care of yourself.

Originally posted by daemonicsoul
I think hillary will become VP and that the elite power will have a patsy kill obama making her president and thats when a rapid change in gun and civil libertys will arise. Create a problem followed by your real agenda. History is showing us the truth everyday. Tell everyone you know to wake up. The internet is our great medium for sharing our thoughts with everyone on another plane of existence instantly, it is our salvation in the time of change. Let your voice be heard across the world.

I love you all my brothers and sisters

This is a theory I've had for quit some time myself. Perhaps the murder of another elected official will be just the thing to implement martial law?

Perhaps the video stated in the Huffington Post is a subtle threat?
Anyone else wonder if Obama is privy to such facts?

Jamie83, thanks for this info.
Take care of yourself.

*edit* Did not mean to have two posts. Sorry

[edit on 6-6-2008 by morbidtracie]

reply to post by Sheeper


"Guilty by association? You damn well better believe it"

Sheeper...The America I love has no place in it for people that think like you do. If you were born a century ago you could have gone to work for Joe McCarthy. I think I am done with this thread. Obama is not perfect and not a solution to all of our problems. It is still to be seen whether he will be corrupted, but right now he is the best choice for a better way. I would rather "hope" and be dissapointed than be hopeless.

reply to post by maybereal11


I'm sorry you can't handle the truth, in a world where the elite control things that is just how I see it guilty by association because he would have to be absolutely indignent of reality to not know these guys are influencing things. Thanks for the encouraging words, just where is a place for me to be. I'm only standing up for what I believe, seems to me America was built on people like that, people thats whole intent was to distance ourselves from corporate interist, now your saying it's ok if it helps your campaign, I'd say your type of thinking is more detrimental to society really.

Originally posted by maybereal11
reply to post by Sheeper

 

"Guilty by association? You damn well better believe it"

Sheeper...The America I love has no place in it for people that think like you do. If you were born a century ago you could have gone to work for Joe McCarthy. I think I am done with this thread. Obama is not perfect and not a solution to all of our problems. It is still to be seen whether he will be corrupted, but right now he is the best choice for a better way. I would rather "hope" and be dissapointed than be hopeless.

I have granted you NO authority to speak on my behalf!

When you presume to speak for America you make a very large ZEALOT of yourself. You may not like the allegation presented here or by sheeper, but don;t expect everyone to be allergic to speculation, as you apparently are. Make no mistake that is one offense I CANNOT tolerate silently.

A single question remains - and I'm not even asking what the 'secret' is, I would ask of Mr. Obama, " Why the secrecy? Explain it away, honorably."

Originally posted by maybereal11
reply to post by Sheeper

 

"Guilty by association? You damn well better believe it"

Sheeper...The America I love has no place in it for people that think like you do. I think I am done with this thread.

Great, attack me then run away, our associations are what make us who we are, if I hung around with nothing but skinheads on my personal time but when I am at work I tell you I don't follow their beliefs but I can't disown them any more than my family. You would pin me to my associations as someone that agrees with their ideals, I know you would.

edit-thanks maxmars, I took offense to that, I am proud to be American and don't like being told I don't belong, we all belong wether we agree or not.

[edit on 6-6-2008 by Sheeper]

reply to post by sos37


Good point. I still however, find the remark within the perameters of political campaign rhetoric. It certainly takes an interesting type of person to rise so far up in the ranks, and some really big ego's eh?

All this stuff certainly gives us all reason to keep our eye brows raised, but lets not make the mistake of displacing our distaste and lay it right where it belongs, and that is at the front door of that Mariott and this groups secrecy. We need to really start biting at the heels of the main streem media for not covering this, and where is 60 minutes on it all? Hell, we will be damn lucky to even get a peep of this in the Nation, and I doubt anything in the Mother Johnes either... This is where our attention needs to go to the media and the black out on this group. Of course while we are at it we can demand sunshine by the politicians and candidates, but as of yet do we have any difinitive proof that that either of the two...eh, make that three, Senators were at the meeting?

Hopefully pictures will be released and then we can hold those in attendence accountable and get them to tell us what the meeetings were about, and why they were there. This is America, we the people want to know damn it!

[edit on 6-6-2008 by skyshow]

reply to post by interestedalways


I've always been disgusted with the lies and with holdings from the government and thought that Obama would be the next great change. Sadly enough, when doing my research, I was proved wrong.

Democracy or republican....we'll never get the change we want.
All politicians are puppets with the elite stringing their every move.

Now who do I vote for.

Blah

reply to post by Ameneter
[Should Obama win the Presidency, no less will be expected of him or else our worse fears will be realized. ]

If Obama fails to deliver his most significant promises and prove that he doesn't have any strings holding him up, I hope it'll be the final straw that breaks the camel's back... Then... who knows what will happen

reply to post by MemoryShock


if you want to impeach Bush, then you also need to remove EVERY single member of congress who voted to go to war. They looked at the same intelligence info and the same "facts" and came to the same conclusion. IRAQ was a threat.

reply to post by jamie83


No presidential candidates get 'too powerful' anymore. If the ptb want her out, she's out. The decision makers don't appear on television.

-Jeff

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by MemoryShock

 

if you want to impeach Bush, then you also need to remove EVERY single member of congress who voted to go to war. They looked at the same intelligence info and the same "facts" and came to the same conclusion. IRAQ was a threat.

It was just concluded by an internal inquiry that Bush misrepresented intelligence in his expression to the American Public and to Congress in an effort to 'sell' the war. And, anon, Iraq was a threat to whom?

With what weapons?

This is a horse that has been beaten beyond death....teh American public has been manipulated since day one...and being manipulated into a war that paints us to be war mongers is an abuse of the responsibility given to the people who 'lead us'.

reply to post by jamie83


Great find, starred and flagged ! I've been telling friends and family for years, ever since he ran for senator, not to vote for that man. I've been telling them that he has someone big behind him and most of them just give me that yeah you're a paranoid idiot attitude. Now i can have them look and see just exactly who is behind Mr. Obama, THANKS !

Hmm, if that is not true then, "sheesh another crazy theory!"
Hmm, if it is true then, "holy galloping gargoyles!"

politics forces people to share a bed with all sorts in order to get elected. That will never ever change. But once elected then you see what you get.
Look at .....who was the Supreme Court Justice nominee that was always conservative and then once appointed went liberal or right in the middle? I can't even remember the President who made the comment, "It was my biggest mistake as President" I'm thinking Truman or Eisenhauer.
The point, is that when it comes to the highest levels of politics, there are probably 3 degrees of seperation rather than 6.
So what we have here are 3 people in charge of finding a VP in order for Obama to pick from.
Once again if you are looking for some sterile campaign without nafarious players "trying" to influence the candidates then you might have some luck with a Ron Paul type campaign....but of course they don't do very well do they?
You pick out a President of the U.S. from George Washington thru George Bush that hasn't had to climb in bed at some point with some unsavory people then this issue could merit....no, from what I have read so far, it doesn't even merit being mentioned on the news....maybe.....that is why it hasn't.

I'm shocked people actually believed Obama's crap. He used the Trinity church for street cred... he's as elitists as they get. Then again, I am just another scared redneck grasping onto my gun and religion because I know no better. I'm terrified this man may actually win the presidency, he makes a Clinton in the White House look like a good idea and really, people, that should scare us all.

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
reply to post by interestedalways

 

I've always been disgusted with the lies and with holdings from the government and thought that Obama would be the next great change. Sadly enough, when doing my research, I was proved wrong.

Democracy or republican....we'll never get the change we want.
All politicians are puppets with the elite stringing their every move.

Now who do I vote for.

Blah

Please don't despair! Yes they ARE all in one way or another intertwined with a corrupted political party (yeah there's only one, effectively). But you will NEVER get the political party you want by doing NOTHING. I always struggle to remember that the electoral college, the political appointee system, the 'corporate' influence wasn't ALWAYS there. IT WON'T ALWAYS BE THERE!

For now, knowing is half the battle. People HAVE to KNOW, that way the next generation (our children or their children) WILL be sensitive to this reality in a way we were not. They may be strong OR clever enough to overcome this tragedy. Frankly, we just about blew it, we have slept past the alarm! But as long as they 'want' something from us - we CAN eventually own their a$$es!

mY .02

I think what irks me about Obama is that his supporters put him up on a pedestal like he is somehow different from hillary and now mcain. They make out that obama is actually really bringing change....

Atleast with hillary and mcain everyone admitted they were globalist swine.

What is even worst is the supporters who aren't fooled by his bs message of change, go by the logic that he is the least of three evils.

Stop condoning what is a corrupt and if you actually think about it fascist election by giving them your vote. Boycott is the only way that the masses will make a statement and say we understand what this fascade is all about and we will not condone it.

Ofcourse that will never happen, because everything is ok, right? Atleast its not as bad as those 'A'rab nations.

Originally posted by Res Ipsa
You pick out a President of the U.S. from George Washington thru George Bush that hasn't had to climb in bed at some point with some unsavory people then this issue could merit....no, from what I have read so far, it doesn't even merit being mentioned on the news....maybe.....that is why it hasn't.

I think, in my opinion and extrapolation and diligence in keeping track...

...that you pick someone you have been in bed with.

You don't know someone until you have fought with them...and let's face it, what better way to fight with someone then to 'sleep' with them?

The mentioning in the mainstream news is because the people are more geared to who has slept with whom...not the reasoning and subsequent interaction with policy and thought.

I proffer this question to the readership....why are most issues discussed and propagated by mainstream media that of social issue?

Terry Schiavago, Abortion, Creationism, Gay Marriage, Immigration....

These issues are not where are politicians are making their money...war is where they make their money.

A rational discourse on our leaders centers heavily on this distinction....

Funny thing I just E-mailed a friend this morning about the upcoming elections and told him that Obama stinks of the NWO. I've only briefly seen him on You Tube. Its only intuition. I don't have any facts but my intuition is usually correct.
All of the candidates stink. God or whatever....help us!!!