Interesting character in my ER has me spooked

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That's some nice digging you did there q_ball. .

Can we call this a HOAX?

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I occured to me that MD could have posted all the information about the "predictions" without all the medical information at all...it does sound like padding and sreenplay. I know he was trying to give it credibility, and I think stated this himself, but it's almost like he's trying too hard. It would not be at all difficult to trace the hospital he says he works in with almost no local knowledge. If these predictions are so genuinely important to us, you really need to tell us, MD!! I mean...now! Your credibilty is less important than possible future events that may affect us all. I think you wasted a chance here to do something useful, and I'm inclined not to take you seriously at all.

However...I am VERY happy to be proved wrong, if uou can find the correct mechanism to do it, without ruining your career. Giving a moderator all the details, so it can all be time stamped is really your only option, in my opinion.

This reminds me of a hoaxer that posted his story about the "jail and ufo inciddent" last year at some point. Im not saying your a hoaxer but im also not loosing any sleep over your story.

Originally posted by airborne82ndscout
reply to post by GradyPhilpott

 

medical staff does not have protocols for this at all. security wouldnt be involved.

Originally posted by BoulderMD
Only after he left did I realize that our security detail had REAL problems with the gentlemen that were there to pick up the patient. I won't go into much detail here other than to say I still have no idea who they were, but they were dressed in nice suits and seemed to have an official sense. The patient exited with them under no duress and apparently entered a car with them.

The one thing we agree on is that the OP is not being truthful about himself or his story.

I'm simply evaluating the OPs own account.

Originally posted by enigmania
reply to post by q_ball

 

That's some nice digging you did there q_ball.

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Can we call this a HOAX?

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I think we can, I believe my post makes this very simple for every one


Also, the original poster claimed there was a new section/facility...well even the new sections has no on site psych type units...and there is a mental health unit..guess what though...its for Outpatients only for drug and alcohol youths..therefore this would require a discharge from ER then a transfer as an outpatient from home.

For the life of me, having myself worked in hospital for many years...cant find any information on this hospital in Boulder, even the foothill site and all its consulting suites..any thing at all about ER Psych Consultants....Irony, no.

Logic? Yes.

Hoax. Yes.

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See what your missing here q-ball is your looking for somewhere he could work and i am saying you dont need to even go that far at all.

listen to how he writes " Only after he left did I realize that our security detail had REAL problems with the gentlemen that were there to pick up the patient. I won't go into much detail here other than to say I still have no idea who they were, but they were dressed in nice suits and seemed to have an official sense. The patient exited with them under no duress and apparently entered a car with them.

security detail ? call him a gentleman and then call him a patient patient exited with them under no duress?

its like he is trying to write in a form of medical document in the chart and an internal monologue and writing to us. he is confusing all of this and writing things like he does.

very inconsistent. he wouldnt say excited he would say something like ambulatory and he wouldnt use no duress on pt leaving he would use that in his initial.

see this guy hasnt done enough research to pull this off he is no way a doctor

In the first thread our poster stated this:

"Three nights ago I was in the middle of my shift and was having a relatively quiet evening, especially for a weekend. We were then given a heads up about a multiple victim accident that had occurred on The Diagonal (a highway that leads into town here).

A multiple victim accident on The Diagonal Highway on the 1st of June or thereabouts. I find it rather odd that there is no local news about this accident. I did a thorough Google search and found absolutely nothing.

It really is classic the way he has started the thread as you have an incredibly catchy title, an intriguing beginning to get you interested, the "Hook"telling you he has predictions but can't say them for fear of scaring everyone, and that he may elaborate at a later date once the predictions have come true.

Now he's disappeared and i'm wasting my time writing this which, is exactly what he want's us to do. I hate being negative and i got really excited reading it initially but now i'm get a smell of Fish from somewhere, and it AINT on the Diagonal Highway...

Do you think when he asked you if he can trust you, he meant that you wouldn't tell anybody about this?

As far as predicting the future is concerned I'm a non-believer I don't think any one can predict what doesn't even exist in my and your universe yet. Anyway I digress, just out of interest would any of the (claimed) 'more significant events' be occuring between 20June and 03Jul this year?

reply to post by CAPT PROTON

Wow! I never post anything on ATS, Im just a reader. But when you said Parachutes my blood ran cold. I had a dream, with Parachutes, on the East coast, I saw them coming down. Thats all I say for now, U2U me plz Mr. Proton.

Actually there IS a logical reason why predictions should not be posted and I'm sure a Doctor would already know that reason - "self-fulfilling prophesy".


How to debunk a thread in 8 pages or less..this is as I said..and most agree a hoax..and not a very good one.. a LEGENDARY one..like the ALIEN IN THE FREEZER..now that was a hoax and a half...Dr's who were not Dr's...radio interviews pictures, the gold standard HAS to be ISAC and the CARET pictures with all of the follow up work.
First prize has to be TIME TRAVELER 0 John Titor a post that spawned an industry a movie..and untold GIGABYTES of speculation

We see here why us common folks cook up conspiracy theories. It is because MDs and others with letters after their names enjoy withholding information. Feeling of power and superiority, justifies the crappy day to day existence of demanding jobs that leave not much time to enjoy all that money raked in from the plebs.

Us plebs have our own version of a crappy existence, so we come to places like this looking for excitement and good stories that help alleviate the tedium and anonymity of our daily lives. No wonder the Bible is the best selling book in history. All those disasters, lakes of fire, monsters from the sea.

Once in a while, something really does happen and we experience it as "earth shattering" and then get back to our humdrum routines but now with a good story to tell. A few buildings fall and we chatter about it for decades, while every day people starve to death or die of boredom and nobody cares. Nothing new under the sun, doc.

If this is something you were exposed to, wouldn't a doctor have the sense that anyone who talked to this guy might be made to disappear by the scary official looking guys in suits. Why give your location, hint that you have important information, it would be asking the government types to come after you. Wouldn't you give all the important information, the predicitions up front if you actually had them, instead of all the other nonsense. Then, the scary people wouldn't have any reason to get you, you have already spilled the beans, and taking you out then would only confirm your claims.

Oh, by the way, Obama hasn't won, even though the media is working hard to make it appear so. Super Delegates have until the convention to make up their minds, or to change them. Obama doesn't have enough pledged delegates, so it will be the super delegates who choose the winner at the convention. Hillary ain't out of it yet, which is why she isn't conceding.

It's sounds like a bad episode from the Dead Zone in my opinion. The patient's name wouldn't happen to be Johnny Smith would it?

Originally posted by BoulderMD
I can promise you this - I'm not here to be sensationalistic or to cause a scene. I sincerely want to hear from others that may have had this experience. He alluded that others have, in fact, experienced this (perhaps I'm giving away my "means to an end" for posting here).

I guess more than anything I'm just very bothered and haven't talked with anyone about this so far.

Yes, I too, have had this experience. From "scalp lac's " side of the picture.


I have not had an "episode" in a number of years, and certainly nothing as dramatic as "scalp lac's"; Just incidences wherein I've "known" certain facts and been able to relate specific "events" in people's lives to them while having no explicable way to have had such intimate knowledge of them.

I do not know exactly how it works. It is not a skill per se, although there are elements I am in "control" of. When "it" works, I generally need to be close proximity to the "target", but not touching them: the physical contact seems to "overload" me, causing the "spell" to break.

I too had a "trainer", now long deceased, and not connected to any "official agency. But our training sessions were unfortunately cut short due to his illnes and eventual death. He too, oddly enough, lived in Colorado: Colorado Springs, specifically, for a time many years ago.


The thing that most caught My attention regarding your post was your description of your patient's "flat" expression as "he" revealed these things to you. I can relate from my own experiences.

There is a certain feeling of "calm detachment" while "in trance", an emotional state, not unpleasant, but requiring a heightened level of concentration to maintain. Perhaps this is a clue to the desire to not be touched while "hot'?



I confess, I've only read the first page of this thread, so I may be way off base with this info. Unfortunately, I must be off to work now, so more reading will have to wait.

I did want to reply, Doctor, if for no other reason than to "unburden" myself.

Thank you for the opportunity.

reply to post by October


Yes thats a good observation, this leads us that this definitely occurred at the Boulder Community Main Hospital campus as this sits close to the Diagonal highway mentioned. (see link below for map)
www.bch.org...

Also,

Bouldercounty.org lists no major accidents in 2008 on the Diagonal highway also nothing on Google.

Close this thread already mods.

I concur with all the reasons given by Phoenix, Enigmania and Grady Philpot as to why this doesn't ring true.

I can only add - Patient says... "Don't touch me, I'm hot"? Did MD not touch him when he dressed his scalp laceration? So what if he's "hot," that doesn't mean he can't touch the Doc or the Doc can't touch him - the Doc can't read HIS mind. Besides, why not keep his mouth shut? Why should he spill the beans to some random ER Doc about the fate of the world?

Somehow I'd like to think if this guy really exists, the government is not counting on some twitchy, weird dude with loose lips. If so, they definitely needed the trainers in suits and we are all scr*ewed.

However, no worries, it's just a nice, little short story with plot fallacies and no ending.

reply to post by q_ball


Not to lend any credence to this very interesting story. But Boulder Community Hospital does offer psychiatric services and has 2 ERs.

www.bch.org...

www.bch.org...

I thought it would be odd for such a large community to not have these services. It would be rough on patients to have to be drug clear down here to Denver for such.

Yep, no accidents. If there were no accidents this is a none event. It simply didn't happen. A little research and digging can quickly get to the bottom of the claims being presented, we aint stupid here at ATS.

also lets take into consideration this point by BoulderMD

I was trying very hard to put the things he'd stated last out of my mind. He then appeared at the doorway of the exam room and stated that he "had to go." I asked him to please return to the bed and we all began to approach him. He walked toward us and simply said, "Against medical advice."

So you never touched the patient with Scap Lac at all? This seems highly unlikley. These are seriosu incidents. Look at this blog posted by an ambulance officers bout a Scalp Lac, its very graphic

I grab the hem of one of the towels and start untwizzling the fabric from his head, the towel’s wet with blood and as I ease it away I immediately realise why his face is drooping.

A chasm of skull grins up at me.The laceration starts at his left eyebrow, travels straight back across his crown and finishes two inches away from the top of his left ear. At its widest point the gap in his scalp is four inches across, a pink creamy expanse of bone hits Norrie and I at some primal point, you don’t need medical training to know that you’re not supposed to see that much of anyone’s skull.

traumaqueen.net...



Unless he has been lightly patched up by the ambulance members to stop the bleeding, this man would have been in no condition to do any thing. Also, you claimed he was on no drugs> Yet this medical forum clearly states the use of anesthetics on Scalp Lacs on patients once in the hospital by majority or at least some thing to numb the pain....
forums.studentdoctor.net...

I really doubt that this patient could have just walked off as you so put 'against medical advice'.....what about disconnecting the drip? what about the bandages on his face? What type of Scalp Lac?

Also if you where seriously worried about your identity, why would you give such close details to where you work....?? You seemed frightened of the suits that took away the patient...yet it sounded like he voluntarily left.

This is a Hoax. You are a clever writer, stick to school and write a book, would be a great read or a day time movie for senior citizens.
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