Are the Greys and Abductions being phased out, and are human-like beings now at the forefront?

Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
I have noticed it all over the internet. Fits in quite well with the whole "rising consciousness" theme that is also very prevelent. Exopolitics radio is on a lot about positive aliens recently.

While I am all for optimism and wish this more positive interpretation to be true, the one caveat I have is the disinfo possibility, because if people just assume things are going to get better they don't actually take any action to make things better and that could be... awkward. Still, here's hoping for positive alien contact, I'll take any shape, size and colour as long as he, she or it is friendly

But keep your eyes on the evil folks, folks.

well said as the reptillians still have the net up and runnin, it would be foolish to get into any ship or wish to have a contact with any of them. They have the technnology to shape-shift into those nordics and thus make the abudctee way more comfortable , erase their memory , implant something bad and then bye bye till the next abudction and while at it spread dinsinfo about how nice were the fake implanted memories.

reply to post by mystiq


When a race abducts those they are watching it goes beyond watching and becomes interfering. Which is something they are not supposed to do unless asked. To my knowledge most abductees never asked to be taken. Most do not have happy warm fuzzy experiences to relate as a result of interaction with the grays. Granted there are a variety of different grays.. but we will always have a hard time moving forward if they continue to mess with our DNA. The fact is.. it is believed more often than not that they are holding us back on purpose. Well the grays that is. The humans want them to leave us alone so we can be free to evolve as they have.

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As do I.

The one that came to me when I was young looked ALOT like this depiction.





strawberry blond hair and crystal blue eyes.

I do not think the Greys are as active now but I do not know. I also have my doubts about the Pleidaians, yes there pretty and appear nice but, Im not so sure.

dang i posted the wrong video..lol oops
when i said i have been waiting for this..this is what i meant
www.youtube.com...://video.google.com/videosearch?q=galactic+federation+of+light&hl=eN&sitesearch=


much love..big changes ahead ftw!

Originally posted by NephraTari
reply to post by mystiq

 

When a race abducts those they are watching it goes beyond watching and becomes interfering. Which is something they are not supposed to do unless asked. To my knowledge most abductees never asked to be taken. Most do not have happy warm fuzzy experiences to relate as a result of interaction with the grays. Granted there are a variety of different grays.. but we will always have a hard time moving forward if they continue to mess with our DNA. The fact is.. it is believed more often than not that they are holding us back on purpose. Well the grays that is. The humans want them to leave us alone so we can be free to evolve as they have.

I think this messing with our DNA has been going on from day 1, and yet, with more recent activity from greys, there has been and agenda. The races that seem a little too blond for me, may be distinct and separate, as Bill Holden says that President Reagan was informed there was over 50 races, and they interacting with many of them. However, many believe that the Nordic types are actually hybrids themselves. And due to the lack of genetic variety they express physically, and that variety in the human race is what makes us beautiful, I feel they may be the product of et and shadow governments racist agenda. We will not be free to evolve as any advanced off world races have if nwo agenda continues. The consequences for humanity will be devastating, essentially being middle age serfs.

I think an ats member by the name of "Observe", would best be qualified to answer this question. I dont think the greys are gone, infact they are in control of earth...i was recently talking to an abducte/contacte/alien trained guy called kenny bakeman...he had this to say...

this is his website if you want more information on him...

i asked him if this planet is under quarantine by the greys and this is what he said:

I don't think the word 'quarantine' is appropriate here. There is a perimeter shield but it wasn't completed until 1996. I don't know the technical details of the shield, but it surrounds the entire planet and is a few miles above the surface. The purpose of the shield is to act as an information net that is used to track entering and exiting beings and their vehicles.

This net is roughly analogous to NORAD except that it covers the entire globe and detects metadimensional traffic. I was taken up to a craft on Jan 1, 1996 to witness the events of a limited time amnesty (a cease fire) granted by the Greys to allow as many alien intruders to leave the planet as possible before the shield was fully put into effect. After the net was operational, whoever was left would be stuck inside the protection grid.

Like I said, I was taken onto a craft to be a witness to the event. It was sunrise, and we were high enough to detect a noticable curvature of the horizon. I figured that we were over the Atlantic somewhere because of the time (early am when I was picked up) and viewing sunrise, and by seeing a vast expanse of water many miles below us. I could just barely make out the texture of the ocean waves.

Standing in front of the row of windows, I looked out along with some Greys and my reptilian handler to see one by one a motley assortment of alien craft arrive at a focus point. In just a few minutes there were thousands of craft packed together, presumably there to take advantage of the amnesty and get the heck off the planet while they had the chance. Suddenly, these craft -- many of which looked like huge old barges -- simply vanished from sight. They had apparently been ejected through a portal, I suppose never to return.

You might consider that the abductions dropped off significantly after 1996. There are still a few straglers that remain, but they are being mopped up and the bulk of the unauthorized beings/entities has been dealt with. This planet has been cordoned off in preparation for the species upgrade. I'm referring to the depopulaiton of Homo sapien sapien and reseeding with the blended varieties, the so-called 'star children'.

Regarding mental telepahy, this is narrowly within the capacity of humans (the current model) and with a little training and knowing some simple tricks it would probably work somewhat for most people. The problem isn't an externally imposed restriction but more simply that our physiology and cultural conditioning isn't geared for this.

the greys are still here, just not so out there!

Originally posted by cindymars
I do not think the Greys are as active now but I do not know. I also have my doubts about the Pleidaians, yes there pretty and appear nice but, Im not so sure.

Again, I suggest either downloading (www.arcadiansociety.org...) or buying the New Paradigm books.

These are supposed to be channeled by Pledians. In effect, they have given up on Billy Meiers and have sought other outlets for their "spreading of the word". These are not books you can speed read. If you believe, or have followed, the idea of the "Secret" or Abraham Hicks teaching the Four Universal Laws, then you have a basis of understanding the goal of the books.

In the meantime, they explain why we are in the situation we are in now. We are not "native" to this planet. We were second class citizens that got out of hand, and had to be relocated by our creators. We have been genetically manipulated for eons to prevent our knowledge of our pasts from coming forth, which would show us for the spiritual beings we could be (ascend to), by beings who wish to keep us here for their own intentions. There is a "god" but it is not the one we call "God". God is thought manifested to self-awareness. And we are at the edge of total chaos.

Basically don't plan on being directly "saved" by any higher vibration beings. As they pointed out themselves, paraphrased, "How many spaceships do you think we really have?" (as in how to "save" 6 billion people). And closely followed by, "And if we moved you to another planet, the galaxy would then have TWO screwed up planets to deal with."

If you go to Project Camelot (projectcamelot.org) and view the newest George Green interview (the person that "channeled" and publishes the books) you will understand why you need to do this NOW. Especially important if you live in the US. As in, if we let Bush/Israel nuke Iran, you will become an "energy" being a lot sooner than you might have wished.

Originally posted by ATSGUY
...i was recently talking to an abducte/contacte/alien trained guy called kenny bakeman...he had this to say...

this is his website if you want more information on him...

i asked him if this planet is under quarantine by the greys and this is what he said:

The website address/link is what, please? Your post did not display it.

I would be interested to read what this guy has to say. Despite the preposterous nature of his claims, some of its content (about the proposed hybrid upgrade of the human race) does chime with what thousands of abductees worldwide report they have been told. So who knows?

Cheers

[edit on 6/6/2008 by bovarcher]

Originally posted by merryxmas
reply to post by bovarcher

 

So then it's not really diminishing you're saying but rather just hitting different families now? Those timespans if they all just coincidentally are ending then now we will be saying a ramp up of just younger generations which would explain less coverage etc.

The only reason why I wouldn't believe it's tapering off is if what most abductees say is right that they have been here since Day 1 messing with us genetically then (and if you believe we have built up our civilization several times before) I can't see them stopping now. Or ever for that matter. Not unless the human race overtakes them in terms of brainpower, firepower etc. ...and I don't see that happening anytime soon.

I really don't know, and am unwilling to speculate too much. It's best to try and stay with the evidence.

My abductions stopped 11 years ago and have not resumed. However, this may be just physical ageing. As the primary objective seems to be the harvesting of genetic material for whatever purpose, young healthy material seems to be preferred. No-one knows how many generations this goes back, but the IF has investigated family-pattern abductions back to the 1920s and as I mentioned my grandmother was abducted as a child in 1915 and on subsequent occasions through young adulthood.

The original abductee population seems to have been selected by a random scientific process: it's worldwide, covers all geographical regions and races, and is no respecter of educational level, IQ, profession or any other variable. It may wall go back more than 100 years, though maybe on a smaller scale.

If there is a goal, an objective, with a time frame, then maybe the abductions will stop when the job is done and the subjects are no longer needed. The Grays definitely instill into their subjects that there will be a cataclysmic, messianic, sudden event engineered by them, after which the new order will emerge - again, engineered by them for 'our' benefit. The reported hybridization program seems to be central to this.

My feelings about this possible future are not very positive, I'm afraid. But maybe it'll be OK. Maybe better than the future we see for ourselves now. Maybe nothing will happen this century. Who knows? We'll havre to wait and see.

There is one more factor. According to the future scenario instilled into abductees by these beings, it seems the alleged 'NWO' or secret government, or Illuminati or 'Bilderburgers' or whatever (choose your CT bogeyman-fantasy and insert here) have nothing to do with this change, and all will disappear quickly with the rest of human culture on this planet to be replaced by whatever it is the aliens have in store for us.

It would make sense that they have a plan for us, due to so many hybrids. I'd really like to know what that plan is though. Instructing us and preparing us to advance and join the Universe so to speak is a quite a bit different than a few more questionable things that come to mind, which all involve usury. I have to bear in mind that Jim Sparks sees a positive future, something to look forward to, should we not self-destruct and begin from scratch again.

reply to post by bovarcher



Interesting info. I would like to hear more.


What to believe if that fateful event ever happens. I have heard so many things. Some say the face of Christ will appear to all in the sky and some others say we will see thousands of spaceships in the sky (which is what I think would be the likely culprit because of a recurring dream I have had since childhood of running through my sideyard and looking up and seeing more ships than sky). You say the aliens will engineer it? A lot of people seem to believe Project Blue Beam was created for the purpose of faking this scenario to instill a one world gubmint. I suppose it's refreshing to hear a differing view on it. I don't really put much stock in any side as of right now and if it occurs I will just go with my intuition.


I took this experimental animation class in college and my professor made us watch this animation every single class. It's a really cool animation but I wasn't into this stuff back then so I was always wondering why the hell he made us watch it every class. I think he worked on it but I honestly don't remember.


Here's the animation.

Originally posted by ATSGUY
I think an ats member by the name of "Observe", would best be qualified to answer this question. I dont think the greys are gone, infact they are in control of earth...i was recently talking to an abducte/contacte/alien trained guy called kenny bakeman...he had this to say...

this is his website if you want more information on him...

i asked him if this planet is under quarantine by the greys and this is what he said:

I don't think the word 'quarantine' is appropriate here. There is a perimeter shield but it wasn't completed until 1996. I don't know the technical details of the shield, but it surrounds the entire planet and is a few miles above the surface. The purpose of the shield is to act as an information net that is used to track entering and exiting beings and their vehicles.

This net is roughly analogous to NORAD except that it covers the entire globe and detects metadimensional traffic. I was taken up to a craft on Jan 1, 1996 to witness the events of a limited time amnesty (a cease fire) granted by the Greys to allow as many alien intruders to leave the planet as possible before the shield was fully put into effect. After the net was operational, whoever was left would be stuck inside the protection grid.

Like I said, I was taken onto a craft to be a witness to the event. It was sunrise, and we were high enough to detect a noticable curvature of the horizon. I figured that we were over the Atlantic somewhere because of the time (early am when I was picked up) and viewing sunrise, and by seeing a vast expanse of water many miles below us. I could just barely make out the texture of the ocean waves.

Standing in front of the row of windows, I looked out along with some Greys and my reptilian handler to see one by one a motley assortment of alien craft arrive at a focus point. In just a few minutes there were thousands of craft packed together, presumably there to take advantage of the amnesty and get the heck off the planet while they had the chance. Suddenly, these craft -- many of which looked like huge old barges -- simply vanished from sight. They had apparently been ejected through a portal, I suppose never to return.

You might consider that the abductions dropped off significantly after 1996. There are still a few straglers that remain, but they are being mopped up and the bulk of the unauthorized beings/entities has been dealt with. This planet has been cordoned off in preparation for the species upgrade. I'm referring to the depopulaiton of Homo sapien sapien and reseeding with the blended varieties, the so-called 'star children'.

Regarding mental telepahy, this is narrowly within the capacity of humans (the current model) and with a little training and knowing some simple tricks it would probably work somewhat for most people. The problem isn't an externally imposed restriction but more simply that our physiology and cultural conditioning isn't geared for this.

the greys are still here, just not so out there!

This would be the worse case scenario of et involvement. This would mean they plan on murdering the human race and hijacking our planet, with full participation of our elitist with their rigidly narrow pathetic eugentics model. Give me a planet full of jrockers anyday, man. This seems to be in direct opposition to the message Bill Holden received, basically 1) to look after planet earth 2) to LOVE ONE ANOTHER and 3)to use our hearts and minds as we use a small portion of our brains and we need to use and develop our powers. This is how we advance. These guys are still taking Jim Spears, and they also have a message to give to us. So, I'm not convinced that ets are planning for our destruction and replacement. And I'm not convinced the BAD ETS have put a net around our planet to keep us isolated and at their disposal.

Originally posted by bovarcher

Originally posted by ATSGUY
...i was recently talking to an abducte/contacte/alien trained guy called kenny bakeman...he had this to say...

this is his website if you want more information on him...

i asked him if this planet is under quarantine by the greys and this is what he said:

The website address/link is what, please? Your post did not display it.

I would be interested to read what this guy has to say. Despite the preposterous nature of his claims, some of its content (about the proposed hybrid upgrade of the human race) does chime with what thousands of abductees worldwide report they have been told. So who knows?

Cheers

[edit on 6/6/2008 by bovarcher]

oh sorry, here is the link

www.kennyzen.com...

reply to post by mystiq


Well some are definately planning against us.. that would be the reptillians I think and the grays under their influence.

However I believe the hybrids or tampered with from the human species are trying to counter the efforts of the reptillians by triggering our awareness and trying to help us by guiding us to the right path to moving up to the next density or dimension in time for the event coming up in 2012 when we have a very real opportunity to shift into another level of consciousness.

We have been severely tampered with by the malevolent races and while the human races are trying not to interfere too much.. I believe some are very concerned for us and are reaching out to those that are calling to them.

After all its not the same if we ask right?

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So what do you make of all this?

In the absnence of substantive corroborative evidence, I would like to know exactly what the guy has been smoking.

"The Elder Grey in this illustration looked like he was a thousand years old. He had very wrinkly skin, and wore an all black tight-fitting suit -- black clothing in the Grey class system seems to indicate a high rank -- with gold embroidered hems at the neck, wrists and feet. This old guy told me telepathically that the human type was a borderline species. When I asked him what he meant by this he explained, using a metaphor that a child could understand, that humans were considered by many observers to be a 'weed species' that was taking over the garden. The elderly Grey also told me that it had already been decided that the current version of humans would be replaced."

www.kennyzen.com...

These ones seem so very Annuki like, the evil creeps, and just seem to remind me of Illumanati as well, the worst in humans. For some unexplicable reason, I believe there is more to this than these sinister guys, even amongst greys. I just had a chance to read Clifford Stone's thread, and have caught his project camelot interviews a while ago. Is he hiding the true sinister intention of the ets?

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I wouldn't jump to saying that he was trying to hide it.. however perhaps of its more of just his knowledge being limited and perhaps he has been deceived in some cases. I noticed there are alot of questions he just does not know the answer to.

Originally posted by bovarcher
reply to post by ATSGUY

 

So what do you make of all this?

In the absnence of substantive corroborative evidence, I would like to know exactly what the guy has been smoking.

Well from my own research and just from my own personal intuition. I believe kenny, i have read his book, and i belive everything he has to say. But that is just my own personal opinion...there was a good interview with him on ufoparanormalradionetwork

here check it out

paranormalradionetwork.org...

It took quite a while to listen to it as it was over an hour long, and you had to strain to hear Ken's part. Very informative, sort of in a fleshing out way to add to insight as to the true agenda. It's like the key point of what it means to us, in terms of say, depopulation, was glossed over quickly. Whereas they could do a whole interview of many just to establish intent. Ie. depopulate us through catastrophe? Wow, that would certainly give meaning to the thread I notices on here asking if we were ready for rapture yet. No, my children and I aren't. And I'm so determined to Africa developed and evolved, and so worried for the babies in this world, my heart going out to each of them, I've lit candles my whole life for every person harmed by the leadership of this worlds greed and malevolence. Or should we be ready for body switching to hybrid models? Or is this only planned for the occultist elites? I even wonder if this is an old message, when initially certain groups allegedly began working with governments to discover that these guys weren't the good guys, and yet their studies with people indicated evolved hearts and souls, so they began, as Jim Spears tells, to work with common people.