NASA Forgot How To Go To The Moon!!!

Even if all the parts were subcontracted out, SOMEONE had the specs. NASA didn't just say, "hey you, build me a rocket and you other guys can build me a cabin", etc. Space exploration was a whole brand new program that required the contractors to be GIVEN the specs of what was to be built. Military specs are very precise. They don't just say, "I want a hammer." They say, "I want a 15" OAL with a head weight of x number of ounces made out of such and such treated steel....." You get the idea.

Did we sell our plans and blueprints to some other country thinking we'd just get upgraded stuff (which we have)? Does anyone really believe that NASA lets anything slip out of their possession? What's absurd about this story is that we're expected to believe it.

When Columbia went kablooee on reentry. I was impressed by the NASA director holing a 1.5lb piece of foam in his hand excoriating the possiblilty it could lacerate the wing. Testing proved possible. In my mind I wished they fired that '1.5 piece of foam' at his face for trial. These brainiacs often come up short of reality knowledge. Even after Columbia's own astronauts were frantically trying to take dig pics of their wing and voicing concern.

This is simply a prelude to the announcement that they will scrap the existing space program in 2010 in order to introduce new technology from that point onwards

Well one might consider that NASA is on a shoe string budget and instead of spending millions on Research and Development, they have tried and proven existing Tech off the shelf.

We tried the " Faster, Cheaper, Better " way in the late 80's and 90's and it had something along the lines of a 60% Failure rate. They tried to build deep space Probes like we build local Communications Sats and it failed horribly.

NASA will go with something along the lines of the Saturn Rocket but it will be a much leaner system. I read a quote that when we went to the moon NASA had something like 3% of the US Budget We had to beat those Russians! Now they have something like .15 of 1%

They are going to phase out the Shuttle we all know this they will probably try to Develop something that can do both replace the shuttle and get us to the moon I think the whole shuttle idea is over they will probably go back to newer high tech capsules

Here is a proposed Shuttle replacement possibility rather unimpressive if you ask me but what the heck if it gets the job done

space.newscientist.com...


IMO



[edit on 2-6-2008 by SLAYER69]

Most excellent point Slayer! What with the war thing and kissing Suadi tuche doesn't leave alot of nickels laying around. Faster cheaper leaner thing works good on paper. In reality, not so much.

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Oh how strange when we get into a War all of a sudden they start talking about space and the moon to keep our minds off of whats really going in the world. Right in the middle of the Vietnam war we landed on the moon.

hmmm I wonder, goes off mumbling to himself then makes a giant ham and Cheese sandwich with all the fixings

What are you talking about man?! They never went to the moon in the first place or the space men would be dead from radiation poisoning by now

LOL SS! The more I hear of thats missing this missing....I tend to think we may very well never were up there. Or if we were, for a fraction of a moment while our alien friends started using us as target practice.
Hollywood imagery may not be so important. Real photage of events would be a national treasure. Woops honey, I lost the reels.....
Doesn't make very much sense does it.
As Judge Judy says if it doesn't make sense........

LOL! Thank you Zorgon for the good laughter today. Nasa forgot how to go to the moon. Man's that's rich You'd think we'd have schematics or blueprints or something as to getting back to the moon, but I guess NASA wanted to go on memory rather than writing it down. :p

Didn't they say the Nazi scientists were helping them?

Maybe these guys took all of this info with them when they retired? Besides If aliens were helping and protecting or shielding these missions, then we could hardly do it without their help or their technology. Which by the way we supposedly have anyway?

I think it would be more interesting if NASA sent some Japanese robots up there to mimic our alleged landing. One smal step for robotics, one giant leap for robot kind?

srsen. Spot on I believe. How do you explain trying to get back to the moon digging about junkyards for 60's tech. What a crock! They will come about a tricked out STS more advanced than anyone could ponder. They just don't want to bring it out of wraps just yet. Classified.

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yeah China is in the race now they have plans to go to the Moon they have some good capsules they will launch their updated version of our's or the Russian rockets from the 60' and while they are on their way there they will see this huge Saucer wizz by with the Red, White and Blue flag on it

hmmmm...yea.. it's quite a story...meh.. oh.. yea.. we lost ALL the film and evidence to show the public.. opps..*shrug* Now, this comes from a government that NOTORIOUS for keeping triple copies of TAX records, and how much we pay or don't pay.. but...

they can't find the film.. RIGHT....well.. I didn't even want to read it since it's played out like a bad film. The title says it all for me..

i smell disinfo all over this story.
believe me NASA didnt forget how to get to the moon.
infact they are more capable than ever.
the question they need to answer is what or whom is keeping them off of the moon and why.
this story is rubbish, its just to another diversion... a pneumonic "device" to instill an idea of buffoonery in nasa, to lighten things up...
maybe im exaggerating a bit here...
a quote from the article...

"Maybe somebody didn't have the wisdom to realize that the original tapes might be valuable sometime in the future," she said. "Certainly, we can look back now and wonder why we didn't have better foresight about this."

lies, lies, lies.
they are looking for cheap sentiment from unsuspecting public and those who dont know any better... those easily controlled [the wal-mart shoppers].

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agreed~!

It's like trying to find a cure for cancer, or any major disease/illness if we/they did, where would all those jobs go? If NASA ceased to exist, there'd be a HUGE problem with jobs..

Lost conveniently. Because the newest video tech could establish what a crock of junk they were. NASA, got to love those guys/gals.
What or who exactly is keeping us off the moon? Hmmm. That Helium three is worth a bundle. But know one will touch it. Hmmm.

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Looks like they lost the formula for that magic gold foil, that they used for the Moon Missions.

This article casts doubt on the ability to send humans to Mars because of the radiation. The problem is that the article ignores the problem of particles thrown off of molecules when struck by Beta and Gama radiation. It is not the radiation which is the problem, you can block most of that with a few inches of earth. The particle storm from the rays striking the shield shreds the human body. It takes about 12 feet of earth to absorb the cascade effect of the particle storm.

science.nasa.gov...

Being in a capsule will not protect you from Beta and Gama radiation. Alpha is stopped by a piece of paper.
The shielding to stop Beta and Gama causes a cascade effect of particles being torn from the shielding, which shred the cells of the body.

NASA never explained how they got around this problem for Apollo.

If you doubt the truth of this, ask yourself: How much shielding does it take for a nuclear reactor? How deep does a bomb shelter need to be to protect from radiation?
The amount of earth shielding in different references varies, but I recall reading many years ago, that 12 feet were required in space.


www.captaindaves.com...

Four feet of earth is considered the minimum amount of shielding you should have if you are in a hot fallout zone. More shielding is, of course, better. You should expect to stay in the shelter a minimum of two weeks and plan on sleeping in it for longer. Again, the longer you are prepared to stay in the shelter, the safer you will be.

Originally posted by babylonstew
its a bluff
in my opinion, NASA wants more money, they waste it left and right on 'the latest high tech' for all these mars missions etc...
now, they are hoping that if they make a big deal reguarding using cheap scrap basically, there will be a public outcry sending 'our boys' to the moon with cheap 40 year old junk
the government bow to public pressure for a\ proper job
nasa gets a bigger budget to spend on better toys

on a slightly different note
bearing in mind the US is 9 trillion in debt
allmost bankrupt?, and really in the poop financially
where are they getting the money to pay for this?
sorry for goign off topic a bit, but kinda curious

The whole point here is that there isn't any money for NASA to waste....

The entire space shuttle program has been a disaster and has become an endless money-pit. It is unreliable, it is horribly designed, it relies on constant maintenance and repairs, and the american people have lost their faith in it. We trust NASA with unmanned space exploration because the screwups don't get people killed. After all the reassurances and shuttle program overhauls and redesigns the entire space shuttle program is still a flawed failure which can't even do what it was initially designed for..

That's the entire reason we are dependant on international support and help for transporting supplies and personnel to the ISS as well as sharing the load of constructing portions of the ISS. This whole plan of a space station in orbit is what the shuttle was designed for from the very beginning. Now, without Russia and the european space agency the ISS would be an orbiting trash-heap because our space shuttle program is such a dysfunctional money-pit.

-ChriS

Slayer. I like you. I don't know what the minus pts issue is. But if I could I'd give you mine. Sure as sh$%!

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Yeah I know that was a farce but no use crying over spilled milk
I'm happy