So last weekend I remembered a tiny bit of existing before being born....

Quck background....for those of you that still label people, I am a Christian Mystic...too many mystical experiences to even mention at this pont.

Well, just last weekend I'm sitting at my desk doing some work, and then all of a sudden it came to me.

I remembered a time before I was here. It was defintely in the spiritual planes and the theme was that I was discussing with some other beings/spritis/consciousness (this part wasnt that clear) ....I was discussing being born on this planet.

It was very fleeting, but it was still clear, plain, and obvious that this was for sure a real deal memory recall.

And I dont want to here from any fundamentalists that there is no such thing as pre-existence. Believe what you want.......I live of experience and knowing.

One more thing to add: I've had these fleeting glimpse like rememberences in the past but I always brushed em off. This was was very strong....and the odd thing was that when I saw my mother the next day at a visit....I told her about this. She basically smiled and said, "welcome to the club," and went on this long rant about her remembrances.

Life is so weird the deeper you go spiritually!!!!!!!!

I'm glad I'm not the only one.
I have always had just a hint of recall leading up to my birth.
I remember being in the presence of two "female" beings who were preparing me for my journey. I remember VERY distinctly that I wanted NO part of it and resisted coming everystep of the way. It was NOT a choice, and I still am resentful to this day. I DO NOT want to be here and never did. It is not that I hate life and I am far too responible to consider committing suicide but,
I really did not want to come. I remember being let into my mothers womb and also leaving and returning several times before it was time for me to come out.

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Interesting, i always thought we had a choice even to the extent in chosing the family we would be born into.
According to you, you had no choice?
Wow. I wonder.

Good thread

I had a similar experience, though I wouldn't say it was in a spiritual plane, was definitely surreal though, but that an interesting experience you had, so do you recalled why you chose to be reincarnated in Earth? And what these spirits look like?

For me, the experience first began with a dream, followed by awakening, to which I felt was the first time I was alive, conscious, and aware. I just couldn't remember anything else before that moment I woke up until years later, when old photographs dugg up old memories of a life before, and I can tell you that was surreal as well.

Anyways the dream started off with me laying on this hill on what seems to be a mixture of my yard and cousin's yard. I was just enjoying myself, soaking up the sun and staring at the clouds. I recalled a melody of "London Bridge" playing in the background. Then also a sudden the scenery got darker, cloud blew by and covered the sky, and I could sense a storm was brewing. I recalled at the end of my street, there was another street that intersected it, and it seems the storm definitely hit that side. Curious as to why my street was just cloudy and how there was a dark bluish atmosphere on that intersecting street, I walked towards it.

As I got closer to the intersecting street, the storm intensify, hurricane winds and heavy rain bashing everything. In one instant as I several yards away from the intersection, I distinctively remember a gas tank truck getting hurdled by sight and hearing an explosion later. When I got to the intersection, the storm subsided, and slowly cleared up, but everything on that street was completely destroyed. As I stepped into that intersecting street, and looked forward, I saw a much bigger storm brewing, with dark clouds, red skies, and roaring thunders.

And the moment I walked toward that storm, I just woke up into this strange environment, with the sunlight shining in my eyes. I felt so warm and comfortable, but I don't recall anything being familiar. Like I said, I felt like I was alive for the first time. When I first saw my family, they seemed like strangers to me, but I felt a connection with them, and know their name. I mean it seems like I had these set of knowledge to start off with, I just didn't know how I obtained them.

Anyways, as I'd mention before, as years passed on, old memories before that time began to resurface spontaneously, sometime in black and white, sometime in color, and it felt as though I was reliving it again, a deja vu.

Originally posted by dominicus

1) I remembered a time before I was here. It was defintely in the spiritual planes and the theme was that I was discussing with some other beings/spritis/consciousness (this part wasnt that clear) ....I was discussing being born on this planet.

2) Life is so weird the deeper you go spiritually!!!!!!!!

1) No, you were here, you just didn't have the capability to know it - most likely that discussion was more about being born into this dimension, thereby providing you the physical capability to become aware of your environment.

You have to think differently depending on the dimensional reality, i would have thought that would have been obvious.

2) No, it isn't.

It makes perfect sense - if that is the way of which the universe works, then that is not weird.

That is perfectly normal.

Interesting thread, I always thought there was a afterlife and a choice to come back if we wished. I dont remember anything that seemed very real other than extreme forms of deja vu, lasting usually long than 5-10 minutes, just that strange feeling. Id honestly like to hear more of what people experienced, its very interesting I think.

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I have struggled with that for years because I had always heard the same thing. We all choose to come here to further our consious development blahh blahh blahh. All I can say is that may be true for some but I'll be damned if I can get rid of these recalls/memories or whatever you want to call them.

Well,
I'm glad to know there are "others." Some I have met, but there sems to be more of us out there than I previously thought.

Anyway, my member was very dark & grey...I really couldn't see much from my recall, it was more like a feeling/telepathic/esp type of experience.

It was kind of like m and the being were just pure formless consciousness, so there was no form or description....like odorless invisible gas clouds of being.

Also in my recall, I knew I had to come to earth and be born. I really didnt want to....but there was this underlying understanding in the background of all this...that everythings gonna be ok and that this is for the betterment and progress for all of infinity.

Kind of like this just what I "have to" do, type of feeling.

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I would like to give some knowledge on this subject, you may take it or leave it.

We are all on spiritual journeys that have began LONG before this incarnation. Some are incarnated by choice, and others are suposed to incarnate here. We chart our lives and have contracts with other spirits (those that become our friends/relatives etc..). I even feel that we are able to 'act out' our lives before comming here.. but I am not 100% sure on this). We can incarnate on this planet at humans or on others as aliens. Now this does not explain all cases but a majority of them. Know that all things are necessary and happen for a reason. We are very small in the spiritual sence in aspect to greater spirits that can 'know' all things on this planet... I mean these spirits can 'sense' all emotions/thoughts/actions that happen here. We are here to learn and help others learn. We are hear to come closer to the 'Christ' concience (sp). Remember the ripple effect in all that you do, do it out of love. Do it for love and because of love and all things will fall into place. Graduate with 'honors' and see what happens. I wish everyone a full and loving life, but make it your own.. do not answer to anyone but our creator!
Love your neighbor as yourself!
Peace and Harmony to all through Unconditional LOVE!

well, I only have one to speak of. I was walking down some stairs at about the age of 12 when I stopped suddenly. I asked "Where was I before this?" and then said " Wow, I am healthy!" and then "I am special". It was weird. Today I would not go around saying I am special, but I believed it for a while. Like I had a mission. I don't know what that was but it felt like an awakening of some sort. Maybe I was disabled or sick in my last life. Dunno.

How can you "Pre-Exist"? You either exist or you dont. To "pre-exist" is still to exist. There is no possible way to exist before existing?!!

Originally posted by dominicus
...And I dont want to here from any fundamentalists that there is no such thing as pre-existence. ...

I hate to tell you this, but "fundamentalists" cannot say there is no such thing as existence before being born.

Jeremiah 1:4-6 (King James Version)
4Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

5Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

So, here we see at the very least Jeremiah had a "pre-existence". I do not see a very big stretch at all to assume the same for other humans.

In fact, if everyone had a choice in coming to earth, it would go a long way towards explaining how God allows bad things to happen to good people. After all, if you had a choice, and God told you that bad things would happen, and you volunteered anyway, it couldn't very well be blamed on God, now could it? (Just my thoughts, anyway)

There are places I see in my dreams, it is like a time that has already happened, but hasn't happed yet. They almost seem more real than my awake life. Also, often in dreams, I will have this knowledge or learn something that makes sense in the dream, but when I wake up, it makes no sense or I forget it. I remembner I learned something, but don't remember what that something is.

I don't really have any pre-incarnation memories. I have these "longings" I guess. As much as I don't like Superman (Batman is so much cooler), I found that I sorta feel like him. Like an "alien" that just wants to go back home. Life here isn't terrible, but I have this feeling of loss, this feeling that I just want to go back home, that I don't belong here. I miss home.


It was interestign that skyblueff0 brought up black and white memories.

I was on the way to a martial arts class when I was 13 or 14. My mom was driving me and for a few seconds everything turned black and white and I had a vision of being somewhere in the 1940s, there were Rolls Royes driving around, and people wearing the "gangster" type hats. It faded back to reality. I wasn't into this kind of stuff back then, so I know it wasn't me imagining it or tryign to make it happen. I just kind of took it in stride. It was interesting, but I didn't know what it meant.



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No proof, no evidence, just a belief.

Our physical brains actively repress the memories of the spiritual self. Memories prior to our physical birth are there, but well hidden and generally inaccessible. Even if we get close to catching a tiny glimpse, the brain fights back to deny it. Meditation and a pure clearing the mind is a path to reaching those spiritual memories. Perhaps when a Buddist reaches Nirvana, they are releasing themselves from the grasp of their own brain and tapping into that greater, spiritual memory. Congrats to you if you have touched even a glipse of your spiritual memory.

How can you "Pre-Exist"? You either exist or you dont. To "pre-exist" is still to exist. There is no possible way to exist before existing?!!

Pre-incarnation may be a better way to phrase it. But it IS pre-existence, existence before your existence in this life/dimesnion/reality.

Since this life is what we know, people call this life Existnece.

Originally posted by dominicus
I remembered a time before I was here. It was defintely in the spiritual planes and the theme was that I was discussing with some other beings/spritis/consciousness (this part wasnt that clear) ....I was discussing being born on this planet.

It was very fleeting, but it was still clear, plain, and obvious that this was for sure a real deal memory recall.

Hi, I don't actually want to say it here but if you want to u2u I will discuss, that specific experience a bit.

Not up to listening to fundamentalist right wing crackpots while it is discussed.

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You might be interested in "Journeys of the Soul" and "Destiny of Souls" by Michael Newton.

Also, if you actually remember that, thats fantastic. You´re not supposed to remember that, they put an amnesia screen in. So every little bit and piece you remember, go for it.

Originally posted by dgtempe
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Interesting, i always thought we had a choice even to the extent in chosing the family we would be born into.
According to you, you had no choice?
Wow. I wonder.

Good thread

Of course not- someone has to make sure you look like them

I think I understand the OP. I have similar "memories." I used to freak out my parents with some of the things I would talk about remembering. I would tell them about things that I thought I saw decades before I was even a thought. Im glad my daughter doesnt do that- it's creepy.

Im not sure if I had dreamt the stuff and just didnt realize it wasnt a memory- it's been so long now Ill never know.

Recall is an uncanny thing . Years before I got my wake up call I had a number of vivid 'dreams' . One I remembered specifically was sitting in the cockpit of a Spitfire while the groundcrew pushed my aircraft out of a barn . I looked across at the wings .They were painted blue .I woke up thinking 'thats odd ,a spitfire with blue wings '. When my friend in the navy told me my name from the last round I looked him up and found out it was a reconaisance spitty . The real shock came when I found out I looked exactly the same then as now ! Turns out I'm a clone ! oh well . I served honorably and helped stop hitler from turning europe in to a police state so thats cool.

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Logically, it would make more sense that you just experienced a thought that you've since attributed to before you were born, though without any evidence for it what-so-ever. You want it to be true, so you've clearly suspended your critical mind and accepted it as the truth without any evidence.

Calling yourself a mystic does not relieve you of having to make sense