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Video: Woman files $11.3M brutality suit against Police after knocked unconscious by an officer

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posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 06:06 PM
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nice body slam..totally uncalled for, total overkill, definetely abuse of force. definetely awinnable lawsuit.
i don't think that cop thought she was gona drop that hard. she is probably alot lighter than she loks.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 06:08 PM
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Originally posted by whaaa
What ever happened to "Protect and Serve?" That slogan is still emblazoned on the patrol cars around here.


It's not in DC.

www.seanmdavis.com...



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by Sonya610
It was excessive force based on the number of cops in teh room. But at the same time it does look like she was being comabitive (when she staggers back she bumps into the cop, he pushes her off lightly and she pushes him back).

The force was excessive, obviously. But there is NO audio and we have no idea how long she was mouthing off and being obnoxious before it got to this extent.

Watch some of the "taser" videos on youtube. It is amazing to see women (typically much like the woman in this film) mouth off to cops, and even when the cops tell them a few times "I will tase you" they just keep going! www.youtube.com...

Yes it was excessive force, but 11 million? She assumes part of the responsibility.
Not everyone in America has got the memo that we are not allowed to say what we want anymore. Most of us know arguing with a cop makes it justifiable for them to arrest, beat, taze and shoot you but not everyone. Give them time, they will all learn.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 09:11 PM
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I kind of wonder what is happening to them too. I know the police are trying to do their job. But what I think is that the police are getting more stressed out. More and more people are being more assertive and resistant to the police these days.

Could be the other way around too I guess.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 09:48 PM
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Originally posted by ignorant_ape
just my opinion - but i think she is drunk - look @ her movments prior to the incident


I'm drunk right now!!

What d'ya wanna bodyslam my face into the floor??


Sorry for approaching you like this, but i'm just wondering what your 'point' is?

cheers

AoN



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 09:57 PM
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i don't think that cop thought she was gona drop that hard.


Maybe he was drunk too. I know of a park locally where more than a few cops are known to gather and bump a few lines between calls, so such a possibility of the officer himself being jacked on something he confiscated earlier is not too far out into left field at all.

[edit on 6/2/0808 by jackinthebox]



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 09:58 PM
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For all you people in here saying well no audio we dont know what shes saying to the cop that is not the point. If I am in a bar and someone talks trash to me and I lay him out I go to jail because Im the one who hit. She can talk all the smack she wants she didnt get violent and this was a HUGE overreaction. The sad thing is the taxpayers will have to pay this 11 million lawsuit. I think he needs to go to prison and be fired and her compensated not 11 million maybe 1 to 2 million just for the simple fact that I have to pay this bill.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 10:15 PM
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I think she is drunk, too, because she is unruly and it seems out of place. I also dont think she would have hit the floor so flat had she been sober- she would have put her arms out to break her fall.

Still, there was no need for that kind of force. There was no escalation of force. A little jostling she pushes/hits an officer then WAM! They could have just sat her down and hancuffed her until the paramedics were done just to quiet her down. I saw her hit someone, so they would have been justified in cuffing her.

I dont think she should get millions for that, though. She should only get enough for hospital bills and missed work and maybe a little more in case she has to get more medical work done. She was definately being a butthole and should understand her role in the whole thing. I hate it when people are stupid and get these mega lawsuits.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 10:55 PM
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I don't recall seeing her 'hit' an officer, all I saw was her touch his arm when he grabbed her. I think she was pretty upset that they were pushing her while she was trying to check on her niece.

It could have definitely been handled better.



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 11:13 PM
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Hmm I couldn't justify that if I tried .. straight up excessive force.

I don't think it's worth 11 million dollars though lol ... maybe 100 thousand or so, but a fractured jaw is not worth 11 million.

I hope a judge agrees....

Else my new profession will become pissing off cops in hopes he breaks my jaw!



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 11:24 PM
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if she was drunk , and i dont disagree ,, the cop should have taken that into consideration being sober himself.
now when a sober cop doesn't have any better judgement than a drunk there is a huge problem with their highering practices and or their training of the officers.
now trust me when i say that i've had the sherrifs and the d.a. try and railroad me into a battery charge when the report clearly stated that i was not guilty of battery and it cost me almost $5,000 to prove it to the judge . now do you think this guy will face any kind of criminal charges in a court of law even with a video tape that clearly shows him brutalizing her ?



posted on Jun, 1 2008 @ 11:46 PM
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I spent a year in court recently proving that I had not resisted arrest and did not attack two cops, after being tased ten times and kicked in the head and torso repeatedly.



posted on Jun, 2 2008 @ 12:23 AM
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what? are you defending the police in court?how did you arrive at that conclusion?
under anY circumstances, if a policeman saw you do that to your kid, they would take them from you. no questions asked. and when you got out of prison, they wiouldn't give them back.
she is not being accused of being drunk, and if you're not allowed to be inquisitive about your children,what kind of country do we live in?
HOW MANY PEOPLE IN YOUR LIFE, DO YOU KNOW THAT HAVE BEEN SLAMMED LIKE THAT? SURVEY SAYS...GUILTY! OFFICER TO JAIL AND EVERY CENT TO THE VICTIM

[edit on 2-6-2008 by Spectre0o0]



posted on Jun, 2 2008 @ 12:37 AM
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If my wife is drunk, and shoves me a few times, can I break her jaw?


[edit on 6/2/0808 by jackinthebox]



posted on Jun, 2 2008 @ 12:55 AM
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Originally posted by ignorant_ape
just my opinion - but i think she is drunk - look @ her movments prior to the incident


Even if she was drunk, she doesn't look like she's a bodybuilder. There is an infinite number of ways to subdue or restrain a person. This is an obvious use of excessive force. Even more disconcerting is the fact that the other cops did NOTHING to stop this power trip.



posted on Jun, 2 2008 @ 01:12 AM
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I'm siding with the cop on this one. Cops do sometime abuse their power and authority but I don't think so here. Shes clearly assaulting the officer after she was assumingly asked to step back from the incident. Theres no excuse for that!

The sexist card was no doubt played here, there woman obviously could not seriously injure the officer but does that then make it ok for her to attempt to cause him harm to the best of her ability?

Lets turn it around a bit. If there was a drunk man being drunk and belligerent towards a female officer, not even causing her harm but nudging her around a bit, what do you think would happen? He'd probably just be tazered and/or beaten to the ground with a night stick or flash light.

Ok, he didn't need to body slam her lol but thats how it went down, maybe he thought he needed to take her by surprise to avoid a fight, she was drunk after all and already willing to try and assault an officer when unprovoked.

He didn't taze her or beat her once she was down, more than I can say for real cop brutality cases. 11.3M is insane! People that get tazed 20 times for saying the wrong thing don't get crap!

I really doubt she shattered all these bones in her face too, hairline fracture maybe.. she didn't get thrown off a roof on her face!

For $11.3M, where can I sign up to get "brutalized" by police, hell they can slam me down twice for that. Lets get real



posted on Jun, 2 2008 @ 02:22 AM
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I spent over 12 years in the nightclub industry. I served as bartender, manager, security...every aspect of the "front line" in the business.

I have seen episodes like this more times than I can count. The way I see this, without audio but likely able to dub in a bit of what happened, is:

Yes she was in the way, probably speaking somewhat impaired or slightly hysterical. The first officer pushed her back from over victim 1. The combination of rising beyond 90 degrees under intoxication was more than her equilibrium could compensate for. Yes, she bumped into the second officer, but that was not intentional and he responded calmly, creating some space between her and his gun. Her continued rants and steps forward seem to be the catalyst for the assaulting officer to step in.
Now, here is where the judgement call comes in. When he attempts to block her path and restrain her hands, probably to focus her attention and calm her down, perhaps to even handcuff her for everyone's safety (evident by the attempted wrist lock). She starts jerking her hands from his grip, takes a side step and the officer grabs her.
From there, it looks like he was definitely going for the take down but his judgement was off. Instead of twisting her into a submissive position, he power slammed to the floor. Loose writhing in that position is very unbalancing.

So, it seems more like a bad situation gone very wrong for many reasons.
More than one officer should have been involved in the restraint.
The smallest officer in the room should not have been the lead blocker. One of the taller officers would have been a more forboding blocker and more stable in the event of forced restraint.
The woman should have been immediately sat down by the officer she stumbled backwards into. He was very obviously not doing anything important at the time.

Situations like this can easily get out of hand, especially in a society that thrives on carnage. I can see how this could be construed as SS tactics, but I dont think it is as bad as that.

As to her lawsuit, the extreme amount seems more like making a statement and gaining media attention than an actual attempt at getting rich. There will likely be a settlement for medical, lossed income and a healthy percentage of P&S (pain and suffering), but I just dont see an $11 million dollar settlement here.



posted on Jun, 2 2008 @ 05:10 AM
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Wow, that's insane. I can't imagine how painful that must have been.
He really did not need to slam her into the ground like that...I mean, yeah she did look drunk and a bit combative, but if he could lift her up like that, he'd certainly have no problem simply restraining her, especially with all his buddies around. I think $11.3M is waaaay too much though...wonder how they came up with that figure? No more than $2M would be sufficient. Hope she wins anyway.



posted on Jun, 2 2008 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by Tiloke
. It's called "escalation of force". The woman was being violent with the police officer and breaking the law while putting her, her daughter and other officers in danger. The officer had to respond with more force than she was using to stop her.


edited for spelling.



[edit on 1-6-2008 by Tiloke]


No. Proper escalation of force would have been holding her back. If that failed, mace. If that failed taser. Pretty sure 'bodyslam' is not anywhere in the escalation process. She wasn't armed, potentially lethal force is completely unwarranted. I wish the cop paralyzed her. I really do. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN HE GETS OUT OF CONTROL!!! WE'LL HAVE TO SEND THE ROCK TO ARREST HIM!!!!!!



posted on Jun, 2 2008 @ 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by Anonymous ATS
hmmm,By my count there are 6 SS officers in the room and all 6 of them together were unable to restrain this militant terrorist.So naturally she needed to be lifted off the ground and body slammed ala Hulk Hogan?......I hope she gets every damn penny.


I would have to agree on this one...I mean, she was a HUGE threat to the well-being of our tax-payer-employed Gestapo henchmen and sometimes they need to take matters into their own hands. Oh, wait, they didn't bust out the taser on that potential woman suicide bomber!! What were they thinking?? They should have all tasered her at once that way the paramedics could have had two victims to take care of instead of just one...oh wait, they did!!
****ing Nazi scum!!

She should sue for $30mil....nice round number!!



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