Strange holes appearing out of nowhere

There seemsto be green mold or likens like material in the top 10 ft of the hole. Not sure what the soil makeup is in the region but that it itself looks to point that its an old hole not one recently made. Also the sides seem to be tamped, looks to be hard surfaced..Mucho strangeness here!!

Zindo

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I see what you mean 7 ats'rs have posted on this thread and you point out that the OP stole? this info from the link you found,now page 2 and no one caught it

Even though these facts have been around for awhile and a thread over a year old was made about it I will say that it is new and interesting information to me.

There has also been provided some new video and links by other members.

Maybe the OP just forgot to mention his source.

Always remember to source your info!

Mattguy404 thank you for the link........wow tons of interesting stuff. That hole looks nasty. My guess is it's those pesky reptilians digging again.

There is no kinda of tacks ever found around these?Either human or made from tires?

These kinds of holes are found all over the Arizona and California deserts.

They're vertical mine shafts and can be quite dangerous.
I walked around a 4'-5' tall bush and if I hadn't been watching I would have walked right into this one.



Sorry there's nothing to scale it against, but the size is fairly common.
Enough room for one guy to dig and it looks to be about 100' deep.

Since it's had a long time to erode due to monsoon rains and other storms that cross the desert, the sides are not as smooth and clean as the Russian holes which are apparently much younger.

The hole shown in the photo is probably a hundred years old if the known to be 100 year old corrugated tin/sod houses in the general area are any indication.

It's not a well shaft since all these old houses are fairly close to a year-round stream.
There is an old collapsed mine building/house that's collapsed about 100' away from the hole.
The stream is perhaps 100'- 200' from the house and down a small hillock a little ways.

You can find these old mine shafts in areas of flat desert, in the foothills and in the mountains.

They are a hazard to say the least and it's not uncommon for folks exploring the desert to fall into them.
Sometimes their dirt bike, quad or full size Jeep goes in as well.

One of these vertical mine shafts in the general area is 1600' deep and big enough to swallow a pickup.


If you look to the left of the gentleman in the photo below you'll see a horizontal mine shaft.
These are usually a little bigger diameter-wise than the vertical shafts, but they can go back into the mountain quite a way.



We believe the mine shaft in this area was a Turquoise mine and it's not too far from a big copper mine that's still in operation.
Most times, turquoise is found in copper mining areas.
Along with aluminum which is part of the process nature follows in the creation of turquoise.

The vertical shaft mine shown above is more than likely a gold mine since it's close to an area with several gold mines.


Shown in this photo - just over the authors left shoulder - is a larger gold mine, long abandoned, but most of the equipment is still there.




And . . . just for the heck of it, some of the tiny wildflowers that grow in the desert late fall, early spring.



The shiny, square object shown with the flowers is my rock hammer which is also shown in my avatar.


It would be interesting to know the geological make-up of the Russian forest area where the deep vertical shafts are being found.

It's very conceivable that they could be nothing more than an exploratory shaft sunk to follow a vein of gold or other valuable material.

Especially so when you consider the vertical mine shafts found in the deserts of California and Arizona.
Other Western states that saw a lot of mining activity in times past probably hold the same types of mine shafts and are equally dangerous for people in those states.

I'm not discounting the ET factor, but looking from here and what my past experience has been, my vote is the holes are simply exploratory mine shafts....



Edited for spelling and grammar.
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[edit on 31-5-2008 by Desert Dawg]

You know what,that makes sense...they are for air shafts.....like underground facilities,mines have these.

The U.S. military is rumored to have all kinds of devices (including alien technology). If they're testing these devices, they would probably look for remote places all over the world where it's unlikely the testing ground would be discovered.

If these holes are the result of some kind of of device testing, I'm wondering what would be the purpose in creating deep holes in a swift manner (I'm assuming they would be done fairly quickly). The possibilities are scary.

If it was the government, why juust dig a hold and leave it empty?

maybe there is something buried even deeper then the hole...

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Nice post hope you recieved some applause, however I think that the two look very different. Your find looks natural, rugged. The other look manmade or well made.
If you are in az. you should u2u me.

By the way guys,
thanks for all the stars and flags!
I feel like a celebrity

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Granted, they look a bit natural, but as noted, the one in the photo is probably a hundred years old and erosion has taken its toll.

What's interesting with these many vertical shafts, they look to be dug by hand.
Along with, they are in places that would be difficult to get digging machinery from the early part of the last century into the area and it would be tough to get modern machinery in as well.

Along with that, there is no evidence of roads that are close to many of these shafts.

Kingman, Arizona is my home base.

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Here's a photo of a fairly intact corrugated tin/sod house.


A photo of the interior.


This is the collapsed building near the vertical mineshaft mentioned above.



In this area and other areas, these vertical shafts are a mine.
Granted, the bigger mines have ventilation shafts, but this particular vertical shaft is quite a ways from the larger mines both in distance and altitude.

Here's a photo of the back side of the copper mine.
It's still operating and as mentioned, they pull turquoise out of the mine as well as copper.

They do have a store that sells turquoise and I've seen 5 gallon buckets full of the stuff as well as small sheets of turquoise that are perhaps 24" x 36" by 1" or 2" thick.

As well as other turquoise specimens from around the world.
If I remember right, red turquoise comes from Argentina.

Arizona's turquoise is some of the best in the world and Native Americans in the area turn out some spectacularly beautiful jewelry.

Much of it sold along the roads and in tourist shops, but some of the best shows up in pawn shops now and then.

It looks a lot like sinkholes to me.
I'll admit that the fellow above made a good point about mine shafts, but this also looks like sinkholes.
I don't know what type of stone it is, but it's possilbe if it's limestone or some similar type of stone. Looks a bit like it.
As for the shape.... keep in mind the threads that occasionaly pop up around here about sink holes and how they look much to precise to be artificial. I was out on a river this morning that cut through some ancient limestone and it was remarkable how round the holes through the rocks were.
I'm not saying it is sinkholes, of course. It just looks like it to me.

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The Chinese mined gold and precious metals like this all over Colorado. No need to shore up the walls because the shaft itself holds up. I've seen these go horizontal into sides of hills North of Denver for hundreds of feet. Very clausterphobic but very efficient! Never seen these vertical though.

Zindo

The holes look like smooth bores. The movie Tremors come to mind, any recent sightings of gigantic worms lately??

These holes remind me of the opal fields in australia
They take all the dirt away to be washed and cleaned first up
to check if they have found any opals
Exact size and if they do carry on after finding something then it becomes
like a moon landscape so to speak
Sorry no pictures to add

It's looks to me like it's either Michael Moor's asophogus or the timeline from beginning-end of the Iraq war, either one.

Of course it could be Russia trying to dig a hole to Texas to grab some of our fine women and burgers.

I can tell it's not a sink hole, the alge/liken growth may not have anything to do with it though, it could be that the growth could have started to colapse into the hole. That stone that looks like concrete as one poster put it actually looks like maybe sandstone or some sorta texas stone, in texas we have stone like that. the thing is, how do you drill though a bed of stone like that without haveing a drill (like an oil rig or something) set up? the holes are so clean, it's strange, looks about a monthy or so old from my professional opinion, I used to dig holes for a living, my dad is a plumber.

-Jimmy

Except for the difference in size, this reminds me of the holes found on Mars.

Mars Holes

those are emergency holes , the locust will come out of them and invade earth , if you see one of those holes don't hesitate to throw grenades thats the only way to close them

i know why these holes appear and why USSR is in on it? its just a distraction on the focus of what really is at the forest i can get into it but dont have time you folks are what ive been looking for and i will give out more information on things you cant understand and will never know untill its to late o&o