Homosexuality- Whats good about it...

reply to post by DuneKnight




yup, never done anything right, just a cult.

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www.lambda.org...

doesnt look like just a cult to me.

[edit on 29-5-2008 by outrider]

reply to post by outrider


dude ur weird. i do know that gay population exceed the size of a classroom. duh. plus most of these famous pple especially the ancient ones are disputable big time my friend. not gonna go there. i think that we all here agree that gay is not normal, and that normal is hundred times better than gay. plus how do gay pple decide whos the passive receiver? do they do a coin toss. plus gayism was initially a result from women being too ugly at the time.

Originally posted by DuneKnight
reply to post by outrider

 

i think that we all here agree that gay is not normal, and that normal is hundred times better than gay.

have you tried it yet then, i would say all your doing is gay bashing, this is my last post in this thread unless you learn some common knowledge

reply to post by outrider


this is coming from a dude who has an avatar showing a tongue come out of a hand. how deviant you must be.

This thread is totally hilarious!!!

You shouldn't take anything DK says as an insult since he's just talking out of his 'passive receiver'.

Besides, he's in Egypt. Over there they don't have any rights or progressive thought so you can't blame him. I'm willing to bet that everything he learned about gay people he heard about on Baywatch Egypt.

reply to post by Rasobasi420


Baywatch Egypt lol that would be cool women covered up on a beach running around.

FYI egypt has lots of gay people and Hard Rock here has a gay and lesbian night. i got two lesbians in my class and one gay dude in my other class. its a mess here too.

i hate how outrider justifies being gay by bringing a list of famous people who at some point were labeled as gay. if u were gay because of that then i feel sorry for you.

Originally posted by DuneKnight
i hate how outrider justifies being gay by bringing a list of famous people who at some point were labeled as gay. if u were gay because of that then i feel sorry for you.

Dude....... :shk:

That's not why he, or anyone else is gay (he's bisexual btw). He was responding to your post about gay people contributing nothing to the world.

It actually baffles me how little you actually understand about 'gayism' as you call it. But expect everyone to automatically be involved in 'straitism' as it were. You make me laugh. seriously, watch me laughing. look at my face

reply to post by DuneKnight


how old are you, your acting like a twelve year old, also how does your post get a star, and my post about the greatest singer, and front man not, there must be some really twisted people out there

Originally posted by outrider

Originally posted by DuneKnight
reply to post by outrider

 

i think that we all here agree that gay is not normal, and that normal is hundred times better than gay.

have you tried it yet then, i would say all your doing is gay bashing, this is my last post in this thread unless you learn some common knowledge

Your saying, that unless you have participated in 'GAYNESS', then you are not quailifed to talk about it?

How can you even utter that, try that with ANY other thing in the world...

"have you tried CRACK yet then, i would say all your doing is CRACK bashing"

How can you say that the only way you can comment on this , is to be gay... thats just wroung...

Also, being Gay ISNT normal, who decides, noone decides what normal is. Normal is the stastical Majority of a set, so, Being Straight is normal, being Gay & Bi, is not normal... there isnt an argument there... Homosexuality IS NOT NORMAL, that is a Fact...


But just because something ISNT normal, doesnt make it wroung... But homosexuality, CANT BE ANYTHING OTHER THEN ABNORMAL.

You have to argue, the REGUARDLESS that Homosexuality ISNT NORMAL, that you still think it is a good thing!

Homo Sex Cannot EVER be compared to hetero-sex... There is an outcome with hetero-sex, the creation of a NEW lifeform... the combination of 2 invividuals Genes, and info... By being in a homo relationship, there is not Creation of a new baby, all there is, is sexual pleasure for the people involed...

And just because something feels good, doesnt mean it is right....

The 'Pro-Gay' side on this fourm, HAS NOT put foreward a legit reason for homo-sexual behavior... Listing a bunch of People who have had homo-sexual relations, does not JUSTIFY the actions...

JUst because the actions of multipe people are the same, does not give LEGITMACY to these actions... you could give an list of anything, and say its justification... but that doesnt give any credit to that acvity... for instance...

If you were to list a LONG list of SLave owners, in the last 3 Melinium... how in anyway would that justify being a Slave owner in todays world????


Also, listing other animals that engauge in Homo-sex. ALSO is not a justifiable cause for Homo-sexuality...

Imagine the ramifications if ALL people used that thought process, obersving the actions of an 'lower' animal, and then minicing them...

Whats next... some woman murders her husband after sex... then says its ok, becaue some animals in nature show the same actions?

Thats a dangerious road to be walking down...

reply to post by TKainZero


thats not what i'm saying, i'm saying don't knock it unless you've tried it, i swear this thread has two morons, im sorry, but i cant take much more of this idiocy

reply to post by TKainZero


I'm not sure I can take anything you say seriously after that whole "It's not Daffy and Donald" comment. Seriously, who takes their knowledge of the natural world from Disney cartoons? Next you'll be telling me that flounders can talk and they sing with mermaids!

And you haven't put forth any argument that says that there is anything wrong with homosexuality other than the minority of the population is gay, therefor it's wrong

Well, remind me not to be a minority, because I'm automatically wrong. (Too late..... I'm black!!!! I'm Wrong!!!)




[edit on 30-5-2008 by Rasobasi420]

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
reply to post by TKainZero

 

I'm not sure I can take anything you say seriously after that whole "It's not Daffy and Donald" comment.

... that refrence was a single point that was only put forth to HIGHLIGHT that Ducks mate for life... a boy and girl duck mate for life... My argument isnt that because in a disney cartoon, there was a hetero marrige, so we should have hetero-marrige... but only pointing out a REAL world example, THAT just about everyone could relate too.

And you haven't put forth any argument that says that there is anything wrong with homosexuality other than the minority of the population is gay, therefor it's wrong

ok, here is an INCREDIBLE basic point... i will put forth some text from Here
There might be some Medical terms that MIGHT violate the T&C...

Anal intercourse is the sine qua non of sex for many gay men.22 Yet human physiology makes it clear that the body was not designed to accommodate this activity.

That is the most basic and simple observation... i could/should quote, but it realy is pretty gross... and i dont want to make everyone here read it... so Rasi, please read at least this one part of the link, go to IA1a in the outline or..

Introduction

I. Differences between homosexual and heterosexual relationships

A. Promiscuity
B. Physical health

1. Male Homosexual Behavior

a. Anal-genital

^ ^ ^ ^
Click on this link (in the webpage...)

Litteraly, there is more info/warnings of what can happen with "homosexual Acts" then there is Charecters i can post... PLUS, its very graphic...

Well, remind me not to be a minority, because I'm automatically wrong. (Too late..... I'm black!!!! I'm Wrong!!!)

[edit on 30-5-2008 by Rasobasi420]

The pigmentiation of someone is something that "normal' COULD theorecticly be judged on... but.. its strange, and difficult to examine... but since you brought it up...

Normal in regurads to skin color shoul be broken down into reginol catagories... it would be foolish to think that the Same SKIN color would have to be normal in all places... The normal skin color of a Sweedish person, and a Kyenyan person are not going to be the same... this is not a chioce, but only an indication of the history of YOUR ANCESTORS... The Sweedish persons skin could be a white as milk, and the Kenyean could be as Black as Dark Chocolate, but BOTH of these would be considered ABNORMAL on a Global Scale...

The Global NORMAL for Skin color is light brown color... the same light brown colored skin, that most people in the world have... From China/India to North African, and Acroos the Sea to most of the Americas...

Also, this subject we are talking about is Homosexuality, lets not cloud the topic with Ethnicity...

reply to post by TKainZero


that was a very informative article albeit it was more than i needed to know.

maybe i should quote since the illogical people here dont consider anything i say to them.

The societal implications of the unrestrained sexual activity described above are devastating. The ideal of sexual activity being limited to marriage, always defined as male-female, has been a fence erected in all civilizations around the globe. Throughout history, many people have climbed over the fence, engaging in premarital, extramarital and homosexual sex. Still, the fence stands; the limits are visible to all. Climbing over the fence, metaphorically, has always been recognized as a breach of those limits, even by the breachers themselves. No civilization can retain its vitality for multiple generations after removing the fence...

But now social activists are saying that there should be no fence, and that to destroy the fence is an act of liberation. If the fence is torn down, there is no visible boundary to sexual expression. If gay sex is socially acceptable, what logical reason can there be to deny social acceptance of adultery, polygamy, or pedophilia? The polygamist movement already has support from some of the advocates for GLB rights. And some in the psychological profession are floating the idea that maybe pedophilia is not so damaging to children after all.

Lesbian social critic Camille Paglia observes, "history shows that male homosexuality, which like prostitution flourishes with urbanization and soon becomes predictably ritualized, always tends toward decadence."

and yes i aint gonna respond to stupid questions. sue me.

[edit on 31-5-2008 by DuneKnight]

Originally posted by DuneKnight
reply to post by TKainZero

 

that was a very informative article albeit it was more than i needed to know.

Yea...


It was kinda gross, thats why i didnt want to post all of it here on these boards...


Also, i missed this post by... the other guy in the thread, not Rasi...

thats not what i'm saying, i'm saying don't knock it unless you've tried it, i swear this thread has two morons, im sorry, but i cant take much more of this idiocy

Now let me take out the worthless words...

i'm saying don't knock it unless you've tried it

Dude... thats some bad advice... Is that the kind of motto that you lead your everyday life with??? Throw common sense, and reason out the window... and only rely on PERSONAL experince...

I realy hope that you are just messing with us by typing things like that...

i'm saying don't knock it unless you've tried it

It is ^that^ type of mentality that leads people to make mistakes they regret...


Now...

i swear this thread has two morons

Well... i wouldnt call you a moron, or Rasi, just some confused folk...



I hope that You, Rasi and Outrider, read the link i gave you, i hope that you take it seriously, and think about what it means... and the ramifications... Becuase you didnt imidiatly respond with emotion, i can only assume that what you read, chocked your brain into thought, and will cause you to try to understand this from all sides...



I do not wish to make people unhappy... it is not my fault, when opinion matters more then fact... I only hope that you see this, and that you understand what you are trying to say... Heres what i am trying to say:

There are parts of the Male, and parts of the Female that go together... this is not by chance... it is what it is...

I am not going to go as far as Dunenight, he is entitled to his opinion, as you are to your freedom of choice... but to instill homosexual behaivor as 'normal' and acceptable, that is an irrisponsible act... why.. if you support somehting that you KNOW will lead to harm and hurting people, how can you be responsible....

I hope Everyone that reads this thread, and has the same line of thought as Rasi and Outrider, that you please visit the link in the post above, and just read the PHYSICAL risks associated with Homosexualk Behavior...

reply to post by TKainZero


i have been watching this thread for a resonable amount of time, and i have this too say, you and duneknight are right on the fact that the hole wasn't ment to accept the eleventh finger, BUT your also acting like idiots :bnghd:, homosexuality ISNT just about sex, its about loving someone of the same gender, just because you love somone doesnt mean you need to have sex, also i saw a post earlier about how the gay society tries to change hetersexual people into homosexual people, and that was one stupid post, i have got to say, it was the stupidest thing i have ever had the displeasuer of reading.

(sorry for the faulty spelling, ive been up for two days, and im not exactly in the mood to check my spellin)

reply to post by TKainZero


Are you calling me gay?

Originally posted by Rasobasi420
reply to post by TKainZero

 

Are you calling me gay?

NO!

You already told me that YOU ARENT GAY... and im sorry if it came across that way...

You just need to stop saying that Homo-sex is safe...

You say there is NOTHING wroung with it, and there are NUMEROUS health complications that can arise...


IT IS DANGEROUSLY IRRISPONSIBLE TO ADVOCATE GAY SEX!

The medical reasons are in the Link above, i WILL not post them here, because of the graphic nature of the subject... But since i cannot be assured that YOU or ANYONE will reach the link... i guess i can see if a mod WONT castriate me if i do post it...

Im not calling you gay... i though you might have been earlier in the thread, but you clariffied that for me... PLEASE RESPOND....

What did you think of the LINKS? Do you just dont belive them? Are you going to ignore these activities, just because you dont like what they are saying???

reply to post by TKainZero


And I don't think anyone has said that anal sex doesn't involve some risk to the recipient. And practiced safely, only to the recipient. But it should be known that anal sex isn't the only way that gay people can have sexual relationships.

The intercourse part aside (and the intercourse is not the entirety of homosexuality) being homosexual is in no way damaging, wrong, unnatural or a problem if you don't make it one. No one (especially you) is hurt by it. So live and let live as they say.