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I began to see the wisdom in my parents’ warning. True, in any political confrontation, the opposing sides would be tempted to use lies to win justice, and naïve participants would be caught in between. To blindly believe in either side would be dangerous.
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It is not too late for the media to report on Tibet issues with a critical eye, which will ultimately benefit the Tibetans, the Han Chinese, the Olympics and the world.
Originally posted by zarzar
I don't see any organized entity attacking the Chinese people, except the Communist party itself. What I see are many people angry with the politics of the Chinese government and its use of torture, killing, immoral deeds, lies, etc. Many Chinese people are confusing defending the dictatorship with patriotism. How could a rational person accept the killings of so many people and how could a rational person defend the evildoers? People should have basic human rights, which are universal, but the Chinese people are deprived from them and this includes even you. The sadness is that many of them not only silently accept it, but they even think that this is the way the things should be and that it is a good thing. This is the mentality of the slave. There is a good story in the Old Testament about this type of mentality.
If you don't believe me that you are deprived from your basic human rights, then get a poster telling that the Communism Party is evil, bring it to the center of your city, stay there and wait. You will face a treatment we cannot easily imagine here in the Western and relatively free world.
Yeah, it is actually part of the Communist mainland's "Strategic Moderization Objective" to get Democratic Taiwan back by force before the end of 2008.
It will be a surprise attack, when least expect. Mao's Art of War concepts.
Originally posted by IchiNiSan
reply to post by reibian
Very late hour here, just a quick note:
Epoch Times is sponsored by Falun Gong, a sect that is anti-China. So I would be more skeptical in what information you get from Epoch Just make sure that you have other more credible sources to verify Epoch
Originally posted by reibian
Originally posted by zarzar
I don't see any organized entity attacking the Chinese people, except the Communist party itself. What I see are many people angry with the politics of the Chinese government and its use of torture, killing, immoral deeds, lies, etc. Many Chinese people are confusing defending the dictatorship with patriotism. How could a rational person accept the killings of so many people and how could a rational person defend the evildoers? People should have basic human rights, which are universal, but the Chinese people are deprived from them and this includes even you. The sadness is that many of them not only silently accept it, but they even think that this is the way the things should be and that it is a good thing. This is the mentality of the slave. There is a good story in the Old Testament about this type of mentality.
If you don't believe me that you are deprived from your basic human rights, then get a poster telling that the Communism Party is evil, bring it to the center of your city, stay there and wait. You will face a treatment we cannot easily imagine here in the Western and relatively free world.
Substitute
"Chinese people" with "the United Statian"
"Communist Party" with "the U.S. government"
"Western" with "civilised"
and it still is true, especially now.
It'll be easily understood if one informs oneself and contemplate the quote by Göthe. (in my signature)
Originally posted by haidian
reply to post by zarzar
nobody here can represent every individual of a nation,but my ideas can certainly represent the majority of the chinese people's thinking.and i want to know how well you know china and its people ,how long had you lived in china,hopefully you could read chinese and you can go any chinese bbs to find the overwhelming majority of chinese people's opinions,it is so easy to find it out.
Originally posted by IchiNiSan
reply to post by zarzar
And by the way, not to waive off or dismiss the "voices of dissidents", but I always am skeptical. Skeptical for anything, even it is only a statement made by Hu Jintao, Donald Tsang or Ma Ying-Jeou. This make me also as skeptical for any anti-China "evidence". Too often I have seen so-called "ultimate evidence to show the evilness of China", but more often I do see how skewed and biased certain reports are.
[edit on 23/5/08 by IchiNiSan]
Originally posted by IchiNiSan
reply to post by zarzar
I mostly agree, but "standing up against" something can be done in many different ways. In Europe the Europeans have a saying that all roads lead to Rome. However, if it comes down to certain problems, then I believe certain roads will not lead to Rome at all, and it might only backfire and push you further than ever from your final destination.
but these can't compare to living in fear, torture, forced-labor camps and the slavery.
I have lived in China for almost ten years now, some things you read and hear about are very far fetched, but for Americans and Brits China is a very safe place to visit and live.I walk down the streets at 11 - 12 at night with no fears
In 2 years the only crime I saw where people fighting in the streets after a car accident or 2 men for the same woman. Otherwise it was a fellow French friend creating the ruckus. China is safe, at least safer than most of the western countries.