No Hijackers For 911

Back in May 2003, a journalist in Portugal reported on a sensational, marathon meeting of a group of U.S. pilots that issued a report concluding that the story told by the U.S. government about what happened on Sept. 11, 2001 was improbable and unlikely.

Except for several notices on the Internet, that story was basically never reported in the U.S., and largely debunked when the reporter flubbed the name of the organizer, creating disbelief in the minds of many readers.

The record was corrected in stunning fashion Feb. 25 on Alex Jones' Prison Planet radio program when former Pentagon arms salesman Donn de Grand-Pre, author of three books that allege 9/11 was an inside job, set the record straight, because he was the man who organized that conference. That 72-hour non-stop symposium by a group of military and civilian pilots concluded the flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the 9/11 tragedy had no control over their aircraft.

"The trigger for the 911 activity was the imminent and unstoppable worldwide financial collapse which can only be prevented temporarily by a major war, perhaps to become known as World War III. To bring it off one more time, martial law will probably be imposed in the United States."

The 9/11 planes that took off full of passengers are now at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. "And I'm telling you that we are knowledgeably speculating," said de Grand-Pre in response to another caller. "Those aircraft carrying crew and passengers went over the Atlantic and that was all she wrote."

This is the first I have seen of any mention of the original 9-11 planes being at the bottom of the ocean.
AWAC's....hmmmmmmm...

www.rense.com...

Beware Alex Jones, he has an agenda that I dare not say here.

Yes 911 was an inside job but not in the sense that you think, it was against the white house and not of the white house.

I'm sure that is not what you expected to hear is it?

Originally posted by THENEO
Beware Alex Jones, he has an agenda that I dare not say here.

Yes 911 was an inside job but not in the sense that you think, it was against the white house and not of the white house.

I'm sure that is not what you expected to hear is it?

Well I have done alot of searching on the subject and I think I know what you mean.

This is an interesting read but is it the truth or just another theory. Anything is possible. I do believe that flight 93 was shot down. We just needed something to cheer about on that day.

Think in terms of blackmail and you will have an idea of what transpired.

Originally posted by THENEO
Think in terms of blackmail and you will have an idea of what transpired.

In your opinion, could this correlate with the end times as far as Isreal being destroyed?

Bingo!

see most of the world events now being played out is the struggle between the left and right brain of the Jewish mind, socialism vs capitalism with a globalistic tinge to it.

The jewish community is both part and parcel to the plans and also victims at the same time.

Good question, nice to see that there is someone around here with a brain in their head. Sorry I would have voted for that but I used up my votes this month.

Hmmm... Interesting find. I'm glad you brought this up. It may not neccesarily be true but one important fact to remember is that the government has still not released audio recording of passengers to their families on cell phones to the public when the planes hit the WTC's. Maybe it's because of this.

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There was a thread here once, that showed pics, of the plane as it was hitting one of the towers. Someone pointed out that it had an unusual "tank" on the bottom of the fuselage (of course I can;t find the thread) BUT I did find a pic, with the same "unusual tank" on another plane..I don't buy the remote controled full of explosive theory either



[Edited on 1-3-2004 by NetStorm]

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Oh and they happened to silence all of the air traffic controllers involved, all of the airline employees, and all of the tracking software, as loved ones likely tracked the plane just as my wife does when I fly....

Yep, sure.....

rumsfeld came out and said 'the plane we shot down in PA..."

...then corrected himself.

its called a freudean slip and it happens for a reason.

anyone whose anyone knows that clinton was behind 9-11. hes way to prideful. the monick case was to bring everyone around to loving his (victim wife) which everyone hated before that scandal.... everything about clinton was too easy to read.... remember all his time spent was over in other countrys selling us out making our military smaller. getting rid of everything good our country stands for. clinton is pure evil. u wanted to know who was behind 9-11 it was him.. except he wanted on his watch... another thing everyone complains about is nato jobs going overseas well clinton put that in place as well.

[edit on 4-1-2005 by Shar]

If there were no hijackers, then who stabbed the man in Business class on flight 11?

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The flight attendant's voice was calm and composed, but her telephoned words to the American Airlines operations center the morning of September 11, 2001, were chilling.

"The cockpit's not answering," flight attendant Betty Ong said. "Somebody's stabbed in business class, and, um, I think there's Mace that we can't breathe. I don't know; I think we are getting hijacked

www.cnn.com...

And who stabbed these two?

"Our first class galley flight attendant and our purser have been stabbed. We can't get to the cockpit. The door won't open."

www.cbsnews.com...

And then this here little dialogue

Ong: "I am staying on the line as well."

Reservations - female: "Who are you, hon?"

Reservations - male: "She gave her name as Betty Ong."

American's Operations Center in Texas was alerted.

Operations: "Have they taken everyone out of first class?"

Reservations: "Yeah, she is saying that they have. They're in coach. What is going on honey? Okay. The aircraft is erratic again."

Operations: "We contacted air traffic controllers and they are going to handle this as a confirmed hijacking."

No hijackers?

There were no hijackers on the flights that crashed in to the WTC. There is no doubt that those planes were modified to ...

A) Create a huge special effect when smashing against the SIDE of the towers.

B) Remote controlled.

You've got a multitrillion dollar war on the line, your future, and your families standing in the country you live in ... in other words .. lets say you are a Bush... and you are going to put the sucesss of the event (9-11) in the hands of Atta and his gang??

No.

You are going to have them (attas gang IF it even existed) hijack some planes to create the inital circumstances that made for the phone calls. And it probablly wasn't even Atta and his gang pulling even that off either. It was pro commandos. They killed ALL of the flight crew and attendents... cut the communications... put the planes on autopilot over the atlantic and jumped out after releasing a gas on the plane to put the rest of the passangers either unconcious or at least so they wouldn't reach the cockpit to try and stop the plane going out over the atlantic. The planes crashed in to the atlantic just like the egypt air crashed plane.. the one that went down out of control of the pilots (that was the test).

Then the remote controlled modified planes that were already holding above NY made their runs at the towers. A global hawk watched the whole thing go down and probablly had some control over the situation (you can see it in certain photos). That was the global hawk that eventually crashed in to the pentagon. It piggy backed in on a totally innocent flight that was coming in for a landing a regan. That is WHY people saw a flight come in low over the pentagon.. there was one.. it just didn't crash. It landed.. and has/had probablly no idea it was mistaken for 77.

We KNOW there were duplicate flights launched that day, and we know that the CIA planes DID track a flight 11 that was going out over the atlantic at one point BEFORE they were redirected to NY where they were told that 11 just crashed in to the wtc.

Or something like that anyways.

"I know it's not as bad as last time, it's not the cromagnon-
copy or the Alien Nation reject, but you can *tell* I'm the original, right?"

It was pro commandos. They killed ALL of the flight crew and attendents...

Excuse me if I am wrong, but you are implying that there were hijackers correct? Because if you shoot, kill and take over a plan, I dont know a better word to use than hijacked.

Or something like that anyways.

Great, way to pull something from your butt.

Read my previous post if you want documented news sources about what really happened that day.

The 9/11 planes that took off full of passengers are now at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. "And I'm telling you that we are knowledgeably speculating," said de Grand-Pre in response to another caller. "Those aircraft carrying crew and passengers went over the Atlantic and that was all she wrote."

Big flaw in the Atlantic theory.....

You're forgetting that those cleaning up the 911 mess found numerous body parts (used to identify the dead, including passengers, terrorists, etc.) as well as personal effects, which were returned to families, etc. For the Atlantic theory to be true, you'd have to explain this one. I have personal knowledge of someone who had their loved one identified in just that way, and had her husband's wedding ring recovered from the site. Search the news archives after the event, and you'll see many examples of this kind of thing....

If the Bushies wanted to set up a war, it would have been FAR easier to do in other ways, than crippling the airline industry, and then having to spend billions on a bail out....

Originally posted by Vis Mega A global hawk watched the whole thing go down and probablly had some control over the situation (you can see it in certain photos). That was the global hawk that eventually crashed in to the pentagon.

I'd love to see pics of the global hawk.

also, if this global hawk crashed into the pentagon, how do you explain the theory that there was no plane crash at the pentagon.

the problem with the miriad of conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11 (and many other conspiracy theories, including alien existence while were at it) is that they differ so greatly. With so many varying theories, it makes it near impossible to believe that they happened this way. For example, some say the planes were remote controlled and the crew and passengers were on the planes, others say no. Some say 93 was shot down, others say it was taken to a "safe location (for what reason, I can't answer). Some say clinton was behind it, other say bush planned it (and the 93 one).


if y'all could merge all of your theories into one cohesive concept, they might actually be a bit more believable.

gotta go, I'm being inducted into the New World Order and I want to get my jacket and tee shirt before they all run out.

The government is definately hiding something. You remember the pentagon crash? Remember hearing about the security tapes being confiscated from a gas station and hotel? I emailed my congressman and asked that these tapes be released since the image of an AA 757 isn't a national security concern. We had seen every angle of the Pentagon. We had seen the fireball from the explosion. Only thing we did not see in the pic was an AA 757. I received a response back stating that the only footage of the wreck was released. That refers to the security cam at the pentagon that shows the fireball. What happened to the footage from the gas station and hotel? They didn't confiscate those tapes if nothing was on it. What about the other security cams at the pentagon? I wrote my congressman back and told them that other tapes do exist and they are not of security concern UNLESS those tapes show something else in which case our government has a big problem. They are definately hiding something. And they are hiding the fact that an AA 757 did NOT hit the pentagon.

I have personal knowledge of someone who had their loved one identified in just that way, and had her husband's wedding ring recovered from the site.

so a tiny little wedding ring closest to the fire can survive yet the big thick steel pillars just melt under the heat?

Not to mention the flight recorders that are enclosed in titanium. You can find a tiny ring but you can't find a flight recorder? I don't think so.