Javier Solana - Antichrist?

reply to post by drevill


In the book of revelation the false prophet comes after the antichrist seizes his power. As to now Solana has not done this so it stands to reason the false prophet would not be revealed yet, if Javiers the guy. Check out the thread I mentioned in my previous post as well as the related videos, it may help show some connections many don't see. I have no doubt the EU is the beast, my only question is if Solana is the little horn, though he fits much of the criteria, he may simply be paving the way.

reply to post by drevill


all in all he could be the anti christ. im not saying he is the anti christ, im saying that there is alot of biblical prophecies that fit right in line w/ this guy javier.... it seems a little more than just coincidence....

miss spell

[edit on 29-5-2008 by tjetbone]

HE NOW HAS 36 COUNTRIES SIGNED INTO THE EU.... wth is going on... all this power given to this man and we hear nothing about it in mainstream media.

Should be obvious to all that Ryan Seacrest is the true antichrist... I mean c'mon, nobody with that lack of talent can be doing so well without some kind of deal with the devil...

[edit on 20-6-2008 by Gazrok]

reply to post by Gazrok


????????? lol wth ?????

Well hello there!

Could any of you please explain how Mr. Javier Solana would fit this passage from revelation?

Revelation 17:11

And the beast that was, and is not, is himself also an eighth, and is of the seven; and he goeth into perdition.

thats just the thing.... mankind is not supposed to understand revelations and all these prophecies until God wants us to. his 2 end time prophets are supposed to be the ones to open mankinds eyes to what He means from all that is said.

22] And the beast that was, and is not, even he is [23] the eighth, and is [24] of the seven, [25] and goeth into perdition.

(22) This is spoken by synecdoche, as if to say, as that head of the beast which was and is not, because it is cut off, and Nerua in so short time extinguished. How many heads there were, so many beasts there seemed to be in one. See a similar speech in Re 13:3.

(23) Nerua Traianus, who in various respects is called here the seventh and the eighth.

(24) Though in number and order of succession he is the eighth yet he is counted with one of these heads, because Nerua and he were one head. For this man obtained authority together with Nerua and was Consul with him, when Nerua died.

(25) Namely, to persecute the Churches of Christ, as history agrees

17:11 The beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth


this eighth power, which was a revivification of the beast, and which had the characteristics and strength of all the seven

so what we need to know is what characteristics and strengths these 7 beast had..... that way we can try and connect it to javier....tell me that and i will try to connect javier to it

reply to post by tjetbone


I don't think he is the antichrist according to Revelation. There are 2 beast in Revelation - 2 anti christs that will rule the world. First beast will sit on the throne pretending to be God and the 2nd beast will be his prophet that will do all the evil works on his behalf to be his "Vicar".

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They will have supernatural powers, not just political powers and it will not be a democratic government or any type of government, but a "kingdom" having all authorities over the whole government of the world. Everything in Revelation is centered on the "supernatural" as it mentions about signs and wonders and miracles.

About the wars between the king of the south and north mentioned in Daniel, this talks about the imperial history of the middle east to the Byzantine empire up to the Ottoman empire. These are kingdoms against kingdoms, but the end is not yet. Nation will rise against Nation - WW1 and 2, but still the end is yet to come.

Look at the Imperial history chart to help us understand Daniel with regards to the king of the south, north, and east.

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Now, still future, the Jews will build a 3rd temple in Jerusalem in order to resume the daily sacrifice. They will built it on the Temple mount where the Al Aqsa Mosque and the Dome of the rock are located - all are Holy areas of Islam. Now, the muslim countries will strongly protest this and will escalate into a Jihad war. Now, someone will broker a peace treaty between Israel and the muslim nations. A covenant according to Daniel. This will pacify the escalating conflict and the Jews were somehow allowed to built the 3rd temple and to continue with the daily sacrifice. This someone "the beast" of Revelation and on the book of Daniel, will be successful in whatever he does.

3 1/2 years after this, the 1st beast which comes out of the bottomless pit, a great wonder in heaven, will come and sit on the throne located in the inner rooms of the newly built 3rd temple. He will proclaim himself to be "God" and "the Christ". He does not come from earth, but somewhere in space in which he apparently traveled out from the bottomeless pit. This will be witnessed by everyone on Earth and everyone will marvel at the false messiah during his coming.

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Ben David is most likely the name of the coming false messiah;
this will be the first one; the other messiah from what is described
in Book of Revelation will come afterwards to fight from Heaven(another star system), not from Earth.

Both will have white hair.

It is near anyhow; 2025-35 AD watchout, still some time to prepare
for the coming onslaught.

reply to post by amitheone


the bible also states that mankind will not understand Gods word of revelations until He is ready for man to know. he will tell man through his 2 end time prophets that will be killed in the streets of jerusalim and reserected for the world to see.

so therefore the people stating what your sources said about what the scripture says really dont know.....

Originally posted by tjetbone
reply to post by amitheone

 

the bible also states that mankind will not understand Gods word of revelations until He is ready for man to know.

The Bible says:

Daniel 12 - NIV

4 But you, Daniel, close up and seal the words of the scroll until the time of the end. Many will go here and there to increase knowledge."

....

Today, we have increased in knowledge by leaps and bounds. The scroll is now opened for everyone to understand.

open for those who are truly humble and truly know and understand God.... the end time prophecies are left closed for Gods 2 prophets to tell.. check this book out. u can order it for free dont even have to pay postal.... 2008: Gods final witness if anything it will open your eyes to the lies we have been fed by these so called religions (all religions) we have been defying God for thousands of years and we dont even know it.... all the way down to worshiping God on the wrong day... sounds crazy but its true. man has twisted Gods word to fit what man wants to believe.

THAT IS VERY GOOD TO KNOW. HOPE ITS WRONG. WE SHOULD PRAY FOR JAVIER.

THAT IS VERY GOOD TO KNOW. HOPE ITS WRONG. WE SHOULD PRAY FOR JAVIER.

THAT IS VERY GOOD TO KNOW. HOPE ITS WRONG. WE SHOULD PRAY FOR JAVIER.

Originally posted by tjetbone
open for those who are truly humble and truly know and understand God.... the end time prophecies are left closed for Gods 2 prophets to tell.. check this book out. u can order it for free dont even have to pay postal.... 2008: Gods final witness if anything it will open your eyes to the lies we have been fed by these so called religions (all religions) we have been defying God for thousands of years and we dont even know it.... all the way down to worshiping God on the wrong day... sounds crazy but its true. man has twisted Gods word to fit what man wants to believe.

I agree with you. Always arm yourself with the words of the Bible. Do not believe every spirit, but test them.

Regarding the two witnesses, you can read all about them in Revelations. They are the end-time Moses, Elijah, Noah type of prophet. Their main role is to warn people not to worship the false messiah (the beast), not to accept his mark, and to stop persecuting and murdering the saints. If people don't repent, they will face the plagues issued from the 2 witnesses. Just like in Moses time. We will be expecting earthquakes and famines in a wide scale when these two end time prophets unleashes the plagues.

[edit on 7/12/2008 by amitheone]

reply to post by tjetbone

All I am trying to do here is compare well known prophecies in the Scriptures concerning the Antichrist...

These prophesies are known of, but not well understood.
According to the logic found in this thread, would you not have to be one of the two witnesses, in order to know the answers?