An Experiment in Alternative Methods of Earthquake Prediction

reply to post by justsaying


My dogs started the "crazy act" (barking, demanding to go inside even though they are outside dogs and don`t normally come in the house) late last night , and have continued all day. Even all of my birds have been very irritable and hyper today. I don`t know if its the moon, or what I call "wiggles" (hate the word earthquake since I have had to experience them since last year).

Hubby (who is not very interested in the "wiggles") told me yesterday that his ears were ringing , and that has continued today. Not at all normal for him.

I have yet another migraine... hope its nothing brewing!

reply to post by dragonlover12


Thank you for your input dragonlover. Migraines are the worst, I hope you start feeling better! I noticed you are in Arkansas and I am your neighbor (so to speak!) over here in Tennessee, Memphis to be exact. We are having similar symptoms and not that far apart. Now that puts me on alert!

I absentmindedly forgot to mention that my kitties, one younger kitten in particular, but not just her, have been determined to sit in my lap all day, and geez they are...how to put this nicely....okay I will just say it....annoying the **** out of me! I love my furbabies but I am trying to study for my nursing exams lol. It tells me they sense something out of the ordinary and are stressing big time. Again this is highly unusual behavior I am seeing from them.

reply to post by justsaying


I understand about the "antics" of the furbabies! My 125 pound dog tried to climb up my back to sit on my shoulders this evening... not a pretty picture! I have a conure that sits in his bathtub Moaning "MaaMaa!!!" when wiggles hit here, poor baby. I don`t know why he would get into his tub filled with water when wiggles hit, but he has been pretty accurate about even small wiggles.

I hope the studies go well, and whatever is causing our "issues" changes its mind and goes away!

I started taking Melatonin tablets recently at night, and they seem to help... that and lots of popcorn

I wasn't feeling anything tonight until maybe an hour to an hour & a half ago. It's a little after 2:30 AM here now.
My ears are ringing & I'm off balance a little. I took some melatonin. I haven't been sleeping well for days. Usually can't fall asleep until 3 or 4 in the morning even though I'm tired. I've never had sleep issues in my life!

The cats are both sleeping in their 'earthquake spot'. But the male took the female's usual place & she's a little to the left this time. To the east more than before. (Don't know if that means anything!) Part way under the computer desk. I thought it was because I was here even though that's new for her. I went & put more food in their dishes & even opened the drawer where I keep the treats....nothing! They usually will get up from a sound sleep on the other side of the house when I do that!
Weird for sure!

reply to post by JustMike


I used to think the New Madrid eq must have been huge. Until I felt Virginia's here in northern PA. And that was 'only' a 5.8! Amazing how far away they can be felt!

Of course there is one way we would be able to kind of judge how big they really were.....if there's another one & we see how far away the church bells ring! But I hope that never happens! I wonder if anyplace even has swivel bells anymore. Here they are electronic now!

What was the one in the St Lawrence Seaway in 1925, I believe it was? I think it was mentioned that it was felt in South Carolina. I can't remember the magnitude though.

It was funny that you mentioned about corn & oats.....but said not the cats! It brought to mind a commercial where one brand of cat food's selling point was, that it didn't contain cornmeal! I had looked at the time & forgot all about it. I checked again. One brand that I have, the main ingredient is cornmeal! The other one, a more expensive one, has no cornmeal, but it does have some whole oatmeal. I'm glad there's something that will help the cats too!!! Who would have thought!
WOQ

reply to post by wasobservingquietly

That one in 1925 was the Charlevoix-Kamouraska quake. Happened on Feb 2 and was a magnitude 6.1. Was felt in Virginia and also as far west as the Mississippi!

As for the bells, it's quite a scary thought to consider a quake that can make bells ring hundreds of miles away, because the whole bell tower has to sway enough (and for long enough) to set them ringing. Novel way to ring bells: don't use the bell ropes, just shake the building! :

I'm pretty sure that a lot of the older buildings still have their bells, especially the churches. Hopefully it will be a good while before we find out how far away from a big quake they'll ring.

And the melanin: yes, good to take some or eat foods that contain some. Besides alleviating some of the quake-sensitivity symptoms, research suggests that melanin also slows down the aging process -- and at my age I need all the help in slowing it that I can get!

Mike

Northern Los Angeles county has been feeling extremely weird for days now. Frequent headaches, muscle cramps, mostly in my neck and upper arm. Just lots of tension. I keep hearing popping noises in the walls, like your normal house settling on the foundation kind of noise, but tonight it's been extremely frequent. Maybe it's normal and I just never paid much attention to it before but it's got my attention now.

I used to suffer from frequent migraines back when I was in High School about 10 years ago. After several years of treatments, numerous trips to neurologists, psychiatrists, rheumatologists, every medication under the sun, I was placed on Methadone as a daily regimen and basically doped up 24/7 so I wasn't in pain because preventative measures weren't working. I was also given vicodin when I was at my worst. No doctor was ever able to figure out what was causing all my headaches. Overnight sleep studies, food/drug allergy tests, MRI's, CT scans, anti-seizure medications, antidepressants, nothing helped, no triggers were ever found. After close to 2 years on the methadone, I just got tired of it all, and weened myself off of every medication I was on. My headaches didn't come back. At least not for a few years. Lately, over the last year they have been starting to return. I am just starting to think it's more connected to something outside of my body since several doctors were unable to diagnose me. But why the few years of silence? I admit I haven't followed earthquakes much until after the Japan quake, which is what brought me to ATS. I remember feeling a few smaller quakes in the 4-5 range during those times my headaches were bad, and we've been particularly quiet here ever since they've stopped. So I don't know if there's any connection but I'm just brainstorming because I've got nothing better to do right now.

Maybe I'm over analyzing. I haven't been sleeping well for a while. I'm usually up until 5 AM (it's a little after 4:30 right now) and then I'm out of bed by 9 at the latest. I've always had trouble sleeping but ever since I came back to California last month it's been impossible. I was doing okay before then. Also, I haven't been able to remember a single dream I've had for a few weeks now, and that's weird. I always remember my dreams. I've been off of all medications since 2008. No drugs, haven't touched alcohol in 6 months. Clean as a whistle, yet I feel like I'm seriously disconnected from myself.

I just really feel like I need to move out of California, sooner rather than later. Emphasis on the need. I'm going to lay down and try to chill out.

Building, building, building, building, building.

I believe it is going to be quite large, 8.0 or bigger.

I believe it is going to involve a tsunami.

I feel anguish because I have never once have ever been able to feel a location in the past, nor right now. General direction sometimes, but even then, often times wrong. The anguish is because I wish I could warn someone. It makes me sad. What good at all is knowing something is coming, when you have no idea where.

I feel it is a few days, maybe a week, week and a half away max. I know that is a broad range, but back to my first sentence.

The ear ringing is building like Japan, the signs around me are increasing the same way. But the biggest trigger for me is when my personal life also explodes in happiness. Before Japan, I achieved the greatest success in my entire career. The confidence from that event helped me so much in dealing with the vast array of powerful emotions that preceded Japan. I was almost terrified about this eq, and I am praying like crazy every day for this to all go away and not happen, but I just achieved the greatest success I ever dreamed of my whole life. I will not share what it is here at all, but I am happier than I have ever been....ever. Peace, prosperity, and a chance to forgive the past, is now all mine. And that right there is the problem....to have this pressure building like this, the animals, the ear ringing, my children...add dreams of a tsunami every night for three nights now, which I have never ever had before, and now, this chapter of insufferable pain from my past closed forever with a heroic victory for me and my beloved children..... well, my friends, hang in there......

Peace and Love

reply to post by TMG333

So hard to say what the cause/s might have been, but as they're coming back then I guess some doses of melatonin wouldn't hurt. And at least it's natural. But yeah, I had it rough when I was younger too and the docs never were able to find a cause back then. Years later we did find that I have a less-common form of epilepsy and yes -- it does seem to link to my quake sensitivity, if I can put it that way.

Not suggesting you have epilepsy, just saying that sometimes the cause of whatever ails us can be very hard to find, especially if we are also sensitive to some external influences like many of us are (on this thread, that is).

Mike

reply to post by lasertaglover

I hear what you're saying and yeah I'll be honest it worries me. Even though I can't fathom the connection between your personal success and the other feelings you describe, there are plenty of things beyond my understanding and I'll just accept the fact that you see a link.

My own feeling is for a time frame of only two or three days from now, but like you, I cannot pin down a location and that is incredibly frustrating. True, there are some locations that look likely but I don't work that way; I either get a location or I don't.

This is beginning to feel like Japan all over again.

Can we hope that things quieten down and nothing happens? I'm hoping but not very hopeful, if that makes sense.

On a different note and a bit OT (but please forgive me), I'm asking any ATS MEMBERS in ALASKA or who have friends, family or even business contacts there, to please visit the thread linked in my signature below. A girl has been kidnapped and it's been several days now. This is NOT a hoax. You can check the report in Huffington Post Crime here

The thread's OP, a local there, is asking for our help, so even if you just flag the thread and offer some words of support that would be great. You never know where a break can come from in a case like this and we are a community here. Please help if you can.

Many thanks,

Mike

Another day running on 4 hours of sleep. Still don't remember what I dreamt last night. No headaches yet today but I still can't shake this dizzy feeling, I guess it's like vertigo, not really sure. It comes and goes but it has been lingering for a lot longer as the days go by.

JustMike, thank you for the feedback. I feel so alone sometimes not knowing what in the world is wrong with me. It's frustrating when the people who are closest to me accuse me of making it up just to get attention or to get out of doing something just because I don't have a diagnosis. I lost my medical insurance when I turned 23 so I haven't been to a doctor in over 3 years and I can't find a job out here for the life of me so I just have to kind of deal with everything on my own. It's certainly possible that something was overlooked or a new issue has developed that's bringing everything back to the surface. I think I may give the melatonin another try, I had bought some a few years ago because I was told by a friend that it would help me sleep without the hallucinations and hangovers from the prescription sleep aids. I was on so many medications at the time though that I think they may have masked any benefits I could have experienced from taking the melatonin. Wouldn't hurt to try again now that I'm "clean".

Maybe I am going crazy but I swear I just heard the coyotes howling in the middle of the day... very strange.

reply to post by TMG333


Southern CA, eh? Middle of the day?

Those tricksters are something.

reply to post by lasertaglover


Yeah, I'm in the Mojave desert, I hear them almost every night howling away... but never in the afternoon. I heard it from inside the house and had to get up and go outside and listen because it was really odd. I sometimes see them roaming about during the day alone, but at night they get together and howl, don't know if I should worry.

reply to post by TMG333


Hi!
Try not to get discouraged! I know it's really hard not to sometimes!
I don't know how often my husband has been to the ER over the years! They have never been able to find anything! Even after doing every test they could think of! They should have named a wing of the hospital after us for all the money we've paid them over the years!!!
The worst time was right as Japan's big one was happening. He came into the room & said he thought maybe he should go to the hospital. Right then on TV they broke in with a news flash about Japan! I told him maybe we should wait a little while & see what happens. In about a half hour he felt a little better.

Of course, I would never have done that if he hadn't already been given a clean bill of health, & we had heard about the possible earthquake connection & been watching them for awhile!!!
I wouldn't be surprised if there was a label on his chart that said, 'Hypochondriac'!!! He thought so often that he must be having a heart attack!

DISCLAIMER:
Having said that.... everyone.... if you feel something that you have NEVER felt before....or much worse than usual.....please don't assume it's just an earthquake!!! Get checked! Rule out everything else first!!!

As far as other people are concerned....they are either open to new things or they aren't. Our oldest daughter thinks dad has 'issues'! She doesn't believe the whole thing, doesn't even want to hear about eq's or anything else going on in the world that doesn't directly affect her! Hopefully she becomes more aware as she gets older!
Usually it's people that are opened to all kinds of new ideas, that are the most receptive to 'feelings'!!!
Even if there are none of those around where you are......we are here for you whenever you need us!!!! We all understand!!!

My husband's coworkers told him today that he looked awful. Asked him what was wrong. He's been told that other times before big eq's, so he thought that's what it probably was. Of course, he doesn't tell anyone that. But it turns out our daughter & grandkids were in a car accident today at the time they told him that! They are fine...the car...not so much!!!

He's done that before. Felt when family members were seriously ill, even though they live 12,000 miles away.
Felt like he was having a heart attack at the exact time my brother was killed in a car accident.
Had a seizure at the exact time of my brother-in-law's death from cancer.
We've learned to look at the time when he feels one of these feelings to validate it later!
It's a very scary feeling sometimes when you're not sure what's coming. He hasn't learned how to tell everything apart yet. I think he doesn't like thinking about it.

Mike's right....corn helps. I find myself craving popcorn before a 7. Sometimes a 6, but not as often. Don't microwave it though. Get some of the good old fashioned kind that you have to make yourself on the stove! It keeps more of it's nutrients that way, & you work off some of the 'antsy' feelings shaking that pot back & forth!!!

I tried melatonin last night for the first time. It seems like it worked pretty well. Of course the fact that I've only had 4 or 5 hours sleep every night for almost a week could have done it too! I'm going to keep using it & see. My husband has used it for years because of working nights before. The bottle says to take it 20 minutes before you go to bed. Dr Oz says 3 to 4 hours before. You'll have to see what works best for you. Chamomile tea works pretty well too.
Make sure you are breathing deeply enough. Stress makes your muscles tighten up & you'll tend to breathe more shallowly, which makes everything worse. Stress, headaches, pain in general!
Well, that's my novel for the night! Hang in there!!! We're always here!!!
WOQ

The animals have calmed down today around here, they are not nearly as stressed and anxious as they were yesterday. I myself have been very tired and disconnected from getting anything meaningful accomplished and my anxiety is worse today. I was having headaches a few days ago that I can't really connect to anything but at least those have gone away. I too am starting to feel that something is building.

I wish being a nursing student I could offer some real help or give an opinion about the headaches and how they connect to earthquake activity. I really just don't know. Is anyone that are getting the headaches having elevated blood pressure? Although there is certainly a connection between high BP and headaches, I am curious if earthquake activity actually increases blood pressure. Just as the full moon increases tides and affects how we all feel, I wonder if the same is happening with quakes building. I am so completely overwhelmed with school right now that I have no time to research this. But, I promise I will look into it as soon as this semester is over.

Melatonin has been a lifesaver to help me fall asleep. It doesn't always keep me asleep all night but it does help a great deal. I notice that the longer that I am taking it, the better I am sleeping and the more I can sleep through the night. It kicks in for me within 15 min. I am a terrible sleeper, so if it works for me I would hope it would work for most people. It's natural so anyone reading this, don't hesitate to give it a try. It is fairly inexpensive as well.
Hope everyone stays safe and keeps in touch on this thread. I am really glad that everyone is giving feedback to what they are experiencing where they live.

Ears have been bugging me for the last two hours. Just started ringing very loudly, very uncomfortable. Will write more in a bit, just wanted to jot that down.

Memphis, Tn. here.......I have been dizzy again for the last 24 hours and there has been a rumbling again here for the last hour........will post if there is any change.

2nd

The 10 or 12 rumbles I heard are taking a rest.......Oh goody, I live to watch another "Gold rush"

Over and out!

reply to post by radpetey


Lol, I saw your post so went outside to check if I was getting it here to your north, but did not hear it. Will keep checking since my animals are very restless again and wanting in and out constantly and it's driving me crazy!