What if long long ago we had interstella travel in a lost civilisation on Earth

What if long long ago we had interstella travel in a lost civilisation on Earth we traveled starts an collonised other planets, then BAM a cataclysm on Earth we on Earth loose the knowledge of that current civilisation, we start over and gradualy get back on track to where we are today, now the other old civilisation people in space decided to stay away an concentrate on thier new collonised planets, they help us in little ways but cant do much to helping big ways as its to big a task.

Now we are at a sort of medium tech or most probably low tech civilaisation ie nuclear power, had 2 world wars, computers etc etc, they might be makeing contact with our goverments??

A civilization advanced enough for interstellar space travel would surely leave some evidence no matter how large the cataclysm. Also, after a few centuries the earth would be inhabitable again. Why would they leave the planet when it's entirely clean again to build on and when they still have some sort of space stations nearby, which would be required to interstaller space travel. Apart from that, what you propose could be a possibility, although it is not very likely.

It would be a good idea to colonise other planets and take raw resources from there and bring them to earth seeing is how most plantes in oiur solar system are dead and terraformation is useless we could use them.

ah nevermind....

[Edited on 29-2-2004 by Quest]

I think this is very possible. Look at dinosaurs lived on the planet for what a couple hundreds millions of years yet we have only been around a few million. And I don't believe any advanced beings buildins or whatever would survive. They could have been around before the continents shifted and when the continets did shift that would pretty well distroy any evidance and if there is anything left we'd never find it.

This remind me of the episode of Star Trek Voyager where they made contact with aliens that where infact decended from the dinosaurs of Earth.

Originally posted by Britman
I think this is very possible. Look at dinosaurs lived on the planet for what a couple hundreds millions of years yet we have only been around a few million. And I don't believe any advanced beings buildins or whatever would survive. They could have been around before the continents shifted and when the continets did shift that would pretty well distroy any evidance and if there is anything left we'd never find it.

This remind me of the episode of Star Trek Voyager where they made contact with aliens that where infact decended from the dinosaurs of Earth.

Oh, I saw that episode. Good one it was, too.

And yes, I totally agree with you, Britman.

if this ancient race could do interstellar travel, how come they didnt build buildings on the moon or mars? You would expect at least the remnants of some moon bases or mars bases wouldnt you?

Plausible, here are my thoughts. IF some "earth" civilization advanced to the point where they built an interstellar frieghter and travelled out to another inhabitable planet.

Maybe A. Mars was destroyed due to war.

or

B. Mars was not inhabitable at the time.

So lets say they travelled out further and set up a coloney "out there" somewhere. And for a couple decades "earthlings" successfully travelled back and forth between the two planets. I am not saying everyday, but maybe every five or ten years there would be a new arrival. To replenish stocks, take new people, bring new equipment to the outer planet etc.

And lets say that it took tons of resources and many years to build this one "freighter" big enough to transport enough stores to travel to the outer planet.

Now lets say that on one of these trip the freighter gets either destroyed or is no longer capable of completing the journey. Thereby severing the transport between planets. Now since the escape system can not travel as fast as the main ship those people that could have survived are not capable to return to either planet.

Now lets say that the closest "semi' habitable" planet is this green and blue water ball. They crash through the atmosphere and 40 of them survive the impact, their escape ship in ruins. Now they are stuck on this "unknown" planet.

Now lets say that these "people" have actually arrived on what we call Earth. Which is currently inhabited by all sorts of humanoid type beings. With no access to tech, no access to manufacturing, no energy sources, no means of communication to the "outer planet".

What happens to the knowledge that these first 40 survivors had ?

What happens in Lord of the Flies after the boys are stranded for just a few weeks ?

Is it plausible to think that they would have carried on with whatever society values they had at the time, or would they revert to some forms of animalistic survival instincts ?

Would a small portion of their knowledge be carried down and mutated through generations as a "myth" that there is "other" life out there.

As the original survivors are killed off and a small portion reproduces trying to seperate themselves from their vindictive forefathers, trying to better themselves then the primitive enviroment they were brought up in.

Similar but not quite the planet of the apes in theory. These survivors did what they had to do to survive and under those conditions they began to lose what it was that made them "who" they were. Now delegated to surviving on this "new" planet to them.

Maybe thats why we think about UFO's and space ships and space travel and "other" worlds.

Because they did exist or do exist at some point in time.

And us "humans" just happen to be the decendants of the original 40 survivors.

Maybe this is "earth's" future or mankinds future that someday we are to repeat history, just not "our" concept of history, but another civilizations history.

Someday we will set out from this planet to colonize another far off planet. And maybe someday our only access back and forth will be cut off, either by war on either planet or by natural selection.

And thus the cycle will begin again, on a new planet with new "survivors".

Originally posted by spangbr
if this ancient race could do interstellar travel, how come they didnt build buildings on the moon or mars? You would expect at least the remnants of some moon bases or mars bases wouldnt you?

www.enterprisemission.com...

There are monuments on the moon, and on Mars, odd formations on the outer planets, yadda yadda yadda.

its interesting to look at the rocks that they say look like debris, perhaps they are. but wouldnt you expect something more significant? something like a half ruined building, square miles of ruined bases, or some beams sticking up in the air or an airstrip, or maybe the remnants of a big domed enclosure. if those little rocks/debris are there, where are the big debris?

I had the right website link, wrong page... here ya go, for lunar artifacts

www.enterprisemission.com...



The home page is what I posted earlier. But to get the main link to all the things found on the moon, Mars, and outer planets, go to...

www.enterprisemission.com...

Hmm...no.

It's not possible. We have no evidence at all concerning something such as this.

Originally posted by EliteXizer
Hmm...no.

It's not possible. We have no evidence at all concerning something such as this.

Sniff sniff, I smell something fishy with this poster....

All things are not visable to the human eye my friend.

Originally posted by robertfenix

Originally posted by EliteXizer
Hmm...no.

It's not possible. We have no evidence at all concerning something such as this.

Sniff sniff, I smell something fishy with this poster....

All things are not visable to the human eye my friend.

Sniff sniff, I smell trash. Oh wait, that's you.

Sorry I know it sounds like Im discounting the idea of this thread (which I enjoy as a topic of interest) but Ive just been seeing so many spelling errors lately, it gets to you man, it really does.

Originally posted by Loki

Originally posted by Britman
I think this is very possible. Look at dinosaurs lived on the planet for what a couple hundreds millions of years yet we have only been around a few million. And I don't believe any advanced beings buildins or whatever would survive. They could have been around before the continents shifted and when the continets did shift that would pretty well distroy any evidance and if there is anything left we'd never find it.

This remind me of the episode of Star Trek Voyager where they made contact with aliens that where infact decended from the dinosaurs of Earth.

Oh you know weve hit the absolute peak in credibility when we sight Star Trek Voyager.

dat dere komeant shir waz fonee. Spiel chekr ndede!

those are rocks. these are ruins from a semi advanced civilization:

mars.wnec.edu...

I think it's more likely that ancient man had a higher level of technology than is widely believed, not necessarily space travel, but then destroyed their own culture in a war. Then they would have had to start over again building a new society from scratch.

Like say WWIII starts and people blow up most of the large cities. People in lesser populated areas would survive, but after a while they would have to revert to a very basic life. I mean, how many people know how to make a TV or a car? Not many. And even the ones that do most likely can't make the parts from scratch. After a few generations, TV and cars would be a nice story kids heard about from their grandparents. After a couple thousand years, they might be myths incorporated into their culture. I doubt any of the actual TVs or cars would still be around though.

Originally posted by worshipthemoon
I think it's more likely that ancient man had a higher level of technology than is widely believed, not necessarily space travel, but then destroyed their own culture in a war. Then they would have had to start over again building a new society from scratch.

Like say WWIII starts and people blow up most of the large cities. People in lesser populated areas would survive, but after a while they would have to revert to a very basic life. I mean, how many people know how to make a TV or a car? Not many. And even the ones that do most likely can't make the parts from scratch. After a few generations, TV and cars would be a nice story kids heard about from their grandparents. After a couple thousand years, they might be myths incorporated into their culture. I doubt any of the actual TVs or cars would still be around though.

I find myself thinking the same thing, Bible describes the FALL of MANKIND from eating forbidden fruit.
We today have fruit that we have labored over called Thermal Nuclear Weapons, and with a single computer Byte could send all of us back into living off the land. Only the strong would survive and in time we would if we had made it to the moon find those who stand out in Myths as Gods from the heavons who taught us how to farm and start to write and live by laws.
Somewhere in the Bible declares there is no new thing except it comes out of the old, a hint like lost technology but found again.

Michael

[Edited on 11-3-2004 by Ark-Angel]