Five million orphans in Iraq

Five million orphans in Iraq

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We show this segment courtesy of www.aliveinbaghdad.org. Alive in Baghdad employs Iraqi journalists to produce video packages each week about a variety of topics on daily life in Iraq.
The number of Iraqi orphans increased in the last few years due to the war. According to official Iraqi government statistics released in December 2007, the number of Iraqi orphans had reached at least five million over the last three years. Many due to the Sunni-Shia conflict. There are several social organizations caring for a small number of these Iraqi orphans, such as Child Aid International. There are approximately 26 orphanages that Alive in Baghdad has been able to locate around Iraq. Eight orphanages are in Baghdad and another 18 are distributed all over Iraq and generally they accept kids between the age of 6 and 18 years old.

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[edit on 12-5-2008 by ChadAndrewATS]

The globalists & their minions have been depopulating the world by exterminating millions of parents in Iraq & other poor nations. Those mass-murderers habitually leave the dead parents' children to dry up & die (if they're not put in the international sex-slave trade beforehand). The people, who profit from this war, have been waging wars against humanity for decades. They fund all sides of wars, like the one in Iraq. They want people to fight. The more people, who die in those wars, the more the globalists have to gain.

Their victims are of all shapes and sizes. Be aware that they will try to convince the public that they're helping all Iraqis, when they're really victimizing them on a daily basis. They don't care for orphan children.

They'd rather sacrifice them to their false-idols, rather than save them from their big bad military.

 Kissinger, Eugenics And Depopulation (www.rense.com)

Dr. Henry Kissinger, who wrote: "Depopulation should be the highest priority of U.S. foreign policy towards the Third World."

 NWO Plans To Depopulate The Earth (www.rense.com)
 Turner's Depopulation Plan: "We're Too Many People; That's Why we Have Global Warming" (www.lifesitenews.com)
 The Depopulation Bomb by Jim Keith

THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10.Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

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[edit on 12-5-2008 by ChadAndrewATS]

Yes, but they are free democratic children. We succeeded in freeing these children from their evil parents!
(Sarcastic)

reply to post by Equinox99

"You are right! We should love the criminal-governments of this world. The Bauer-Rothschilds & their minions love poor people! Everything is OK. Life is fair."
(Improvising with you)



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Great pic you have there, sums it up very well indeed. A picture worth a thousand words.

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reply to post by watchZEITGEISTnow

Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. I love finding images (especially videos) to add to forum-threads.

And what's the bet half these kids before they turn 18 are swept into a fundamentalist group because of what they've experienced?

Just another hard truth most people refuse to swallow:
America has become the greatest recruiter for Islamic Fundamentalism.
The US is beating Osama at his own game.
American occupation of Afghanistan and Iraq gives the perfect justification for Islamic extremists to start carry out terrorist attacks around the world and spreading their views.

Yet what is every Republican, neo-con's answer to the issue at hand?
Even more war.
Yeah that's wonderful, fight fire with fire...

When will people realize you can't fight "Terrorism". There is no such thing as a War on Terror.
Whenever people are oppressed and their land occupied they will resist, through symmetrical or asymmetrical warfare (terrorism). That's not Islam speaking that's human nature.

The sorry mess Iraq is in exemplifies how you can't fight fire with fire in these situations as it only aggravates them.

reply to post by The Godfather of Conspira

I know what you mean. The war on terrorism is a hoax. A large number of true terrorists are on capital hill, and planning to attack more poor nations.

5 million?

Iraq's overall population is about 28 million. If this story is to be believed, then virtually ALL Iraqi children are orphans.

I doubt that. In fact, I strongly doubt this story.

disgusting imperialist America - when will it learn that killing is not right ,

it makes soo many poor innocent lovely children ORPHANS ....


AMERICA IS A DISGUSTING EVIL NATION

EVIL AMERICAN BABYKILLER EMPIRE....

reply to post by BrezhnevX

You mean the tyrants, who rule America.

Originally posted by ChadAndrewATS
reply to post by BrezhnevX

 

You mean the tyrants, who rule America.

off course, what else do you mean ????

Originally posted by vor78
5 million?
Iraq's overall population is about 28 million. If this story is to be believed, then virtually ALL Iraqi children are orphans.
I doubt that. In fact, I strongly doubt this story.

Shocking I know, as hard as it is to swallow, that is sadly how real the situation in Iraq is.
This is also exaggerated by the fact a lot of the right-wing, propaganda outlets like Fox, CNN, CBS and such have been consistently underreporting death tolls and casualty-related data in the news:

www.commondreams.org...
www.commondreams.org...

This figure has been verified by Iraq Body Count among others, the authoritative source for all Iraq-related casualties:

Iraq Body Count
Iraq Updates
CBS
BBC

reply to post by The Godfather of Conspira


Granted, the situation isn't good by any means, but 5 million is a tough sell. The most pessimistic casualty numbers seem to put the Iraqi civilian death toll around 100,000. Double it to 200,000. Assuming they're all adults (and that's an unreasonable assumption for sure), then there are 25 orphans for every civilian killed in Iraq.

The numbers simply do not add up. One of the following seems to be true:

1) The number of orphans is vastly overstated.
2) The number of civilian casualties, even by pessimistic estimates is vastly understated
3) Iraq already had millions of orphans prior to the war.

If there really are 5 million orphans in Iraq, #3 seems to be the most likely explanation.

another wonderful fact of this great war on innocent victims,,,,,i mean terror

and of course 99% of tv news watching america will never know this fact,,,,,,thank god for the msm being in bed with gov't

when will all of america condemn this war with american troops dying,,,innocent iraqi's dying and all for as fake war,,,for fighting terrorists who only arrived once we invaded

can we get a mulligan on the iraq war????

reply to post by vor78

The numbers simply do not add up. One of the following seems to be true:

1) The number of orphans is vastly overstated.
2) The number of civilian casualties, even by pessimistic estimates is vastly understated
3) Iraq already had millions of orphans prior to the war.

If there really are 5 million orphans in Iraq, #3 seems to be the most likely explanation.

I think it would have to be a combination of the three.
The underreporting of casualties is a very real phenomenon and we don't know how deep it runs currently. Even the DOD figures have been accused of being fudged up to try and sugarcoat Iraq:
www.birf.info...
www.lewrockwell.com...

There's a good chance they could be way off to deliberately try to paint a happier picture in Iraq.

As for the amount of orphans prior to the Invasion that could be a possibility too, I remember reading quite a lot of stories about "Saddam's Cubs" or "Ashbal Saddam". Kind of like the Iraqi equivalent of the boy scouts but with a more sinister purpose.
A lot of kids were taken from their homes, conscripted into "junior" military units and their families killed.
In fact loosing a parent or relative was a common punishment under Saddam for a number of infringements. Criminals who committed adultery or murder would not only be executed but their families too, etc...

All we can say for certain, is the situation is definitely more desperate than the propaganda outlets make it out to be.

[edit on 13/5/08 by The Godfather of Conspira]

As other posters have pointed out, 5 million orpahns would be nearly 20% of the population of Iraq!

That is absolutely ridiculous. In fact what makes it MORE ridiculous is that I have read articles claiming there are as few as 400 children in Baghdad orphanages.

In Islam it is considered shameful to let orphans be fostered by the state, the VAST majority of orphaned children in Iraq are taken in by their extended family. Their culture is all about family.

------------Expert from article www.middle-east-online.com...

Abeer Mahdi, head of orphanages at the ministry of social affairs, said that most Iraqis refuse to send orphans to orphanages even if they can better care for them. There are currently 19 orphanages housing about 420 children in Iraq.

"The extended families are usually taking care of the orphans, even if they can't provide them a suitable environment in terms of food, clothing and education," he said.

Karlhungis posted the following stats in another thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

"US casualties have surpassed the 4,000 mark. Reports of over 600,000 dead Iraqi's. Reports of 5,000,000 orphans in Iraq."

I find the 600,000 casualty rate to be in the believable range. Do the math, that would mean every Iraqi casualty left behind 8.3 orphaned children, and that’s if you only count ONE deceased parent. Most of the time orphans are defined has having lost BOTH parents.

The birth rate per woman is about 4.4 in Iraq, with women making up 49% of the population. That means the typical Iraqi has an average of 4 children. Something is wrong here, either the rate of Iraqi casualities is much higher than 600,000, or the estimate on the number of orphans is way off.

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It also assumes that every Iraqi civilian casualty is an adult, which certainly won't be the case. Almost 40% of all Iraqis are 14 years old or younger. Even if the there really are 600,000 dead Iraqis (and that seems too high, IMO), that would still mean that, based on averages, only about 360,000 would have been over the age of 14. So, we're back to square one, with a huge number of orphans compared to the casualty figures.