The powerful white light God is Evil

wow this is interesting ive read a bit of this topic and i would say that

god is the lesser of 2 Evils but i myself choose no side but my own side until i die
when i die i will choose and at my funeral i will be wearing a white suite and a black tie
and someone will be playing ( my heart will go on ) "titanic theme"
AND EVERYONE BETTER BE WEARING COLOR OR I WILL HAUNT MY BLOOD LINE
erm sorry about that got carried away

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Here's what I believe. I believe alot of people are really screwed up and assist in making this world more screwed up than it already is. God is not to blame for any of this. That is a weak cop-out from a person that isn't thinking and taking the easy way out. Sin is to blame. God made 2 people, 2 PEOPLE, and they couldn't even get it right! If it wasn't for those 2 geniuses, we'd all live in a sinless world and all 4 billion of us would have happy lives and not know sin. If you want to blame someone, blame Satan, he caused all of this, and he's causing you to think the way you are thinking.

Originally posted by Vimes

Nevertheless, those who represent truth, the oppressed and alien elite, either face a life of being hidden outcasts and secret aliens in society, or face a difficult struggle against the foolish herds of man.

For all their claims about being truer to truth, the METHODS and MEANS of the Illuminati are cruel, inhuman and reflect the very same "evil" that they point to, in the Right Hand Path.

They condemn what they also ARE.

The "foolish herds of man" who condemn no one and who live simply so others might simply live receive back from the elites nothing but contempt and derision.

Something is rotting. Is it me? Is it you? Look again.

Originally posted by beach2197
Sin is to blame. God made 2 people, 2 PEOPLE, and they couldn't even get it right! If it wasn't for those 2 geniuses, we'd all live in a sinless world and all 4 billion of us would have happy lives and not know sin. If you want to blame someone, blame Satan, he caused all of this, and he's causing you to think the way you are thinking.

Satan caused it did he? It's my recollection that Satan simply offered someone a piece of fruit. GOD was the one who equated this to sin. So who really invented sin huh?

See, here's the problem - I'm not a sinner!!!!!
You might be, or at least, you can believe it if you like. I however, have made constant changes to better myself and to a certain extent those around me. I'm above sin and I'll not be labelled a sinner by anyone. Satan knows how ridiculous sin is. He found himself ousted and branded a sinner for being independently-minded.

If you don't believe that you are a sinner that you do and cause and allow harm--

then that's what you are because the fear of the expectation of doing harm is what facilitates appropriate behavior.

Satanists have given up on the concept of "appropriate" (safe) behavior; and so they do no end of harm wherever they rule.






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Umm how many card carrying "Satanists" have ruled?

I can't think of any leaders that openly called themselves such.

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Originally posted by Vimes

Nevertheless, those who represent truth, the oppressed and alien elite, either face a life of being hidden outcasts and secret aliens in society, or face a difficult struggle against the foolish herds of man.

For all their claims about being truer to truth, the METHODS and MEANS of the Illuminati are cruel, inhuman and reflect the very same "evil" that they point to, in the Right Hand Path.

They condemn what they also ARE.

Those who represent truth may be oppressed by the alien elite who hide their tales by blinding folks and thereby create the foolish herds of man. Kind of causes one to wonder: Who is the shepherd? Outcasts are what the oppressors cause truth seekers to become.

They condemn anyone who finds out what they are or what they do.



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Originally posted by Cythraul

Satan caused it did he? It's my recollection that Satan simply offered someone a piece of fruit. GOD was the one who equated this to sin. So who really invented sin huh?

See, here's the problem - I'm not a sinner!!!!!
You might be, or at least, you can believe it if you like. I however, have made constant changes to better myself and to a certain extent those around me. I'm above sin and I'll not be labelled a sinner by anyone. Satan knows how ridiculous sin is. He found himself ousted and branded a sinner for being independently-minded.

yea, you got it right! Satan caused sin and offered a piece of fruit. They disobeyed God, so God equated that to a sin. Sounds pretty simple to me.....I'm on board with ya buddy, where you goin'???!!!

And there's another problem that exists. Yes, you are a sinner. And so am I, and the person who made this OP, and your mother and father and all the way down the line buddy....whether you like it or not, you are. That last person that I know of that lived without sin is Jesus. If you're above sin, than you must be God.
And its great that you're making changes to better yourself, as 4.5 billion people in this world should, because if that would happen, we'd all be better off.

My best friend's sister recently had a daughter. They took the newborn child to a church to be christened. The Priest splashed water on this beautiful innocent child's head, proclaiming that this was to "wash away her sins". Her sins? What sins? She's only just been born? How can an innocent baby be labelled a sinner before it's even able to talk?

Your religion disgusts me, and you can call me a sinner all you like, but I'm not. I don't need the fear of sin to direct me morally, I live morally because it's the right thing to do in my mind. If I make a mistake, I learn from it, but I don't call it a sin. I'm 1000 times the man every Christian I've ever met is.

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You've gotta be kidding. Prescott Bush, George Herbert Walker Bush, George Walker Bush and John Kerry are all Skull & Bones-men. Satanists



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Satanists revel in their power over ordinary, normal, ethical people these days, doncha know.

Originally posted by Cythraul
My best friend's sister recently had a daughter. They took the newborn child to a church to be christened. The Priest splashed water on this beautiful innocent child's head, proclaiming that this was to "wash away her sins". Her sins? What sins? She's only just been born? How can an innocent baby be labelled a sinner before it's even able to talk?

Your religion disgusts me, and you can call me a sinner all you like, but I'm not. I don't need the fear of sin to direct me morally, I live morally because it's the right thing to do in my mind. If I make a mistake, I learn from it, but I don't call it a sin. I'm 1000 times the man every Christian I've ever met is.

yea, kind of a hard concept to grip. But you're not a sinner, and a thousand times a better man than me. Therefore you must be some kind of super being and therefore you must be able to understand/comprehend that everyone is born of sin, regardless if they can talk, walk, fart, burp, spit, whatever. You are born of sin becuase the person who gave you life sinned and all the way down the line.
I'm not labelling you or judging you in any way. But people who think they are better than everyone else and proclaim to tell it to the world disgust ME and probably everyone else on here. Your vanity is tasteless.

And guess what, those "mistakes" as you call them are called sins. Call it what you like, or just keep masquerading as a god-like person who thinks he's better than everyone else.

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Well I know Noah wasn't begotten of God, he was begotten of Lamech, the great grandson of the prophet Enoch. What verses (Biblical and non-Biblical) are you getting the parts about Lamech wanting to kill Noah and stuff though, I'm very interested in this.

-Jimmy

Satanism as created by LaVey was a reactionary philosophy against Christianity. Satanists see the RESULTS and EFFECTS of Christianity and conclude that their god must be evil without even looking at the Bible.

Satan or Lucifer is a Promethean character that want to free mankind from tyranny of gods.

Would you rather be an independent free-thinker than be a sheep that follows whatever the church dictates you to do or believe?

Continued belief in any organized religion causes dissension.

Think, people...don't let yourselves be led by a ring in the nose like a bull to slaughter, or sheep. Think for yourselves.

This thread could not be possible without the idea of "religion" be it Christian/Satanist.

All the so called problems that are created in this reality are done so by US. We are a product of the Creator (what ever you choose to call that creator) and in that vein, we are made in that Creator's image.

As such, we have become co-creators in this particular time and space...and we are responsible for what ever befalls us.

We alone can choose to change it, or allow it to remain the same.

regards,

~holly

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As such, we have become co-creators in this particular time and space...and we are responsible for what ever befalls us.

Only a few are allowed to create, therein, is the source of the chaos of the world. Not to worry though, they will exterminate themselves and all believers along with them.

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Ummmm.
A lot of people charge him of being a member of that.
I have yet to see any convincing proof.

My challenge stands, show me a leader that has openly said they were a satanist.

but from our point of view the suffering we endure is definately not an acceptable part of the universe, so much so that we consider the creator of the universe to be morally flawed; or in other words: to be evil.

I think this approach, although at first may seem correct, is wrong, pain, suffering is as important to any living being as eating is, without pain, you can't know which things are good or bad for your body. Pain lets you know you are alive, when you are sick, when something is dangerous and will harm, without pain, there could be no life, every leaving being feels pain, it is just the nature of our universe.

Killing in the name of God is not the same as "God kills", people chooses what to do at any given time, using God is just an excuse to commit those acts. I could ask as i think someone else already did, have you seen God killing people? or was it just someone doing it in the name of God?

I think that is a fair question, the same we could say about Satan, a lot of crimes can be blamed on satanists, and that just because of bad reputation and folklore stories about them being murderers and lots of things, but, without proper proof, you can't say for sure right?

Originally posted by syress
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Its a shame you wont respond to it all.
you simply are doing with posts what you did with the bible take what you want to hear and leave the rest out.

1.it is not "my god" it is the god the creator off all
2. i am not a Christan nor am i brainwashed if you bothered to read my post you should come to that conclusion with ease.
3. In a war people will die this is fact the bible is very metaphorical.
4. God did not ascend and destroy army's on the battle field, if we are to speak of old testimant soldiers destroyed army's soldiers with faith in god.
5. Now this last point i don't like as much as i hate to say it but if god did create us then he has the right to destroy us.

I did not read the entire thread so the only post I've seen of yours is the reply to mine. You believe that the "God" of the Bible is the true God. I assumed from there that you are a Christian. I apologise for that.

You also use that phrase I hate most of all "if god did create us then he has the right to destroy us". That is the phrase Christians use to excuse the mass atrocities committed by "the Bible God". I take it you have read many posts by Christians, so I hope you understand why I find it pointless trying to convince Christians the Bible is NOT their "Word of God". I'm not really trying to convince anyone of anything, it is just my belief. One Christian actually defended the "if you rape someone you must marry her" part of the Bible. That is despicable, but he is a Christian so he is brainwashed into thinking that way.

I worry about the fact that so many people believe that "God" (for ease of use I'll use that name) can be as despicable as the entity in the Bible pretending to be God. How can anyone believe that "God is good and God is great, God loves all and hates death" and STILL believe that the Bible is about God????

Originally posted by beach2197
Therefore you must be some kind of super being and therefore you must be able to understand/comprehend that everyone is born of sin, regardless if they can talk, walk, fart, burp, spit, whatever. You are born of sin becuase the person who gave you life sinned and all the way down the line.

We all have the capacity to be a super being. We all have the capacity to be our own gods, and when we achieve that, we will ALL (even the Christians) realise that the concept of original sin is a lie, made by the great deceiver YHWH. Do you realise how ridiculous it is to believe that we inherit our father's sins? Do you realise just how OPPRESSIVE that kind of thinking is? Are we all meant to hate ourselves for mistakes we haven't even made?

You think my vanity is bad? It's nothing compared to the millions of self-righteous Christians you're in league with. Hell you're one of them yourself. If you didn't believe you're better than me then you wouldn't bother spouting your Biblical rhetoric like it's truth.

Your whole argument rests on the grounds that original sin exists. It doesn't. I know that, and I hope you realise it too one day.

Religion is a funny thing!

It comes down to who's book is right.

The christians have their bible......The Satanists have their Satanic Bible.....The Muslims have their Quran. All of these believe that their book is the correct one.

I on the other hand have my harry potter book. What's the difference between all these books? Would you believe that the things that happened in harry potter are real??? If not then why do people believe the things that are in their "bible"

When I ask this to people they always say. "Because it was written 1000's of years ago" - What kind of answer is that??? In 1000 years times someone might stumble across my harry potter book and start a religion..... Think about it

People want to feel wanted by something. I understand that. But giving up your whole life to a "book" is just crazy.