That's It!!! This Anti-Obama Propaganda Has Got To Restart

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Before this election cycle, I never voted. (I am 26 years old and have been registered to vote for years.)

Many criticized me for this, however it was a personal choice based upon my conscience. I'm not perfect, and I make mistakes, but the best any of us can do is to try to make decisions based upon what we feel is right. We may err in doing so, but it's the best we can do. The reason I never voted before now was because I never felt that there was a person who even came close to representing what I feel or believe running for office, whether local, state, or national. I viewed my non-vote as a vote against a system and a process that I personally felt (rightly or wrongly; as I said, I'm not perfect and am always open to the possibility that I'm wrong, but can only proceed based upon what I feel) was manipulated, contrived, non-transparent, and antithetical to my personal beliefs.

I voted for Obama in my state's primary and will vote for him if nominated. Do I trust him? No. Do I think he will save the country or change the world for the better? No, but one can hope. Do I still disagree with the system I am taking part in by voting for him? Yes. I'm not voting for the much vaunted "change," though. I'm voting for what I believe, in giving him the benefit of the doubt, his intentions appear to be. It seems probable to me that he will not succeed, or, failing that, that he may succumb to the machinations of the very system I previously refused to partake in or, worse still, become hopelessly mired in it. It is also possible that he is all the things that people who so vehemently oppose his election believe or say that he is. However, giving him the benefit of the doubt based upon his words and actions to date (which may be deceptive,) I am voting for what appear to me personally to be his intentions because those intentions, whether real or not, align with my own to an acceptable degree such that I can live with my conscience having cast a ballot for them.

I respect the views of people who disagree with me. I respect other people's votes. I'm not someone who believes, for example, that Clinton should "drop out" to give Obama a better chance to run against McCain, because I feel that doing so would disenfranchise those who plan to cast their vote for her, and their choice, whether I agree with it personally or not. They have a right to it, in my opinion, and I willingly, openly, verbally defend that right by saying so.

What is a vote? A vote, at its heart is in my opinion an extension of an individual's personal will. A vote is an institutionalized manifestation of intent. If, when I cast my ballot for Obama, I do so with the intention of voting for a man whom I hope will have similar intentions to my own, then I can live with that, irrespective of whether those apparent intentions are born out or genuine on his part. I can only try my best to make the right decision. Any of us can be wrong, and that's the best we can do. Why should anyone have to fear derision or criticism for that?

If I am wrong, then I will revert to my earlier tact, and will probably be so disillusioned (knowing myself and being the over-emotional sod that I am) that I will never vote again.

I would never criticize someone for their personal choice, particularly when it comes to an election. At best, all I can do is be saddened by it. However, I may find that my vote for Obama is cause for sadness as well in due time. I am open to that possibility. We’ll see.

We all have to vote our conscience in my opinion (even if that means not voting at all) however criticized that choice may be.

reply to post by Quarantine

I agree with you Quarantine, if these people vote this man in office, we deserve what we get. I myself am trying to find a country that has a immigration program. But guess what we are the only idiots that have there gates wide open. However after having this fool Bush in office I dont know how it can get any worse.

The combination of ignorance, stupidity, racism, xenophobia, and inbreeding have all reached a fabulous crescendo on this site.Wow. What do you think, he's gonna be sworn in as president and say "Gotcha! I'm a muslim and now I'm going to hire Bin-Laden as my chief-of-staff! My first act is to abolish Christianity!" or something? Puh-leez. The man is more of an american than all you anti-Obama posters, that's for sure. He's dedicated his life to the public service and when he's president, we'll finally have a man in office with a brain who'll turn this country around for the better. All these stupid rumors do is to prove how easily you backwards bastatrds are duped. Good luck pulling your heads out of your asses!

So because he isn't a dangerous reactionary republican, he doesn't have a "sworn allegiance" for the United States? Get a clue. This is very pathetic. Don't even bring Ron Paul, that free market capitalist supporter isn't going to win.

Originally posted by colinjames
He's dedicated his life to the public service and when he's president, we'll finally have a man in office with a brain who'll turn this country around for the better.

Puh-leez........Even IF these accusations about Obama turn out to be false, he in no way will turn this country around for the better simply because of his policies. He will turn the country around alright, but in the wrong direction. He is an extreme liberal and a socialist. The last thing we need is higher taxes, bigger government, more government regulation and socialized healthcare.

Originally posted by AztecSpiritual
So because he isn't a dangerous reactionary republican, he doesn't have a "sworn allegiance" for the United States? Get a clue.

Get a clue......It's because he is a dangerous reactionary extreme liberal.

That's right. We don't need a Communist Muslim Racist in office. I know you bleeding hearts will think i'm an azz for saying that, but best you know the truth, instead of bending over and getting taken from behind (and Obama isn't the kind of guy to give a reach-around).

The great uniter is really the great devider. He never once mentioned anything about National Security, which is of utmost importance relative to China's rising threat and tensions in the ME with regard to obtaining Nuclear weapons by radical Islamic regimes.

the guy just looks like a creep if you ask me

but seriously though there is some relevant information here, there is no need to bash people for bashing Obama. What because he's black you find dirt on him or its racist?

Obama does have some things about his past that make him less than credible in my opinion.

For instance, as soon as somebody he knows personally hurts his campaign (reverend Wright), who married him and his wife, he denounces him immediately. Apparently those loyalties weren't too strong

Originally posted by WhatTheory

Originally posted by AztecSpiritual
So because he isn't a dangerous reactionary republican, he doesn't have a "sworn allegiance" for the United States? Get a clue.

Get a clue......It's because he is a dangerous reactionary extreme liberal.

How is Obama a reactionary? Limbaugh and his supports are.

Originally posted by jetxnet
That's right. We don't need a Communist Muslim Racist in office. I know you bleeding hearts will think i'm an azz for saying that, but best you know the truth, instead of bending over and getting taken from behind (and Obama isn't the kind of guy to give a reach-around).

The great uniter is really the great devider. He never once mentioned anything about National Security, which is of utmost importance relative to China's rising threat and tensions in the ME with regard to obtaining Nuclear weapons by radical Islamic regimes.

Sorry for the consecutive posts but Communist? HAHA. That's the funniest thing I've heard next to Hilary being a Communist! China is not a threat to us. They are dependent on us and we are dependent on them

Extreme Socialism is Communism there Spirtual.

Take a look at the Chinese break-down. The Chinese as a threat is a no-brainer. I suppose China can't replicate US products and put under a different label and sell for cheaper making their economy un-reliant on the US economy. This is exactly what they have done.

# China's methods of economic control.

# China's secret alliance with Russia and other anti-America nations, including North Korea.

# China's growing military and nuclear power-over 90 ICBMs, many of them aimed at U.S. cities.

# How China and Russia have been responsible for weaponizing terrorists bent on harming the U.S.

# Damage caused by China's trade tactics (since 1990, we've lost 8 million jobs thanks to China trade surpluses).

Did you know China…

# Can launch nuclear weapons that in thirty minutes could kill one hundred million Americans

# Has used espionage to steal the designs of nearly all U.S. nuclear warheads and many other military secrets

# Controls more than $200 Billion of U.S. National Debt

# Sells more than 40 percent of its exports in the U.S., which provides much of the money used to build up its economy and its advanced weapons systems aimed mostly at the U.S.

# Remains, along with Russia, the leading supplier of weapons of mass destruction to North Korea, Iran, Syria, Libya, and Cuba

Jet

China are not communist. They've been introduced and have pursued free-market capitalism. Obama is not a communist or socialist, neither is Hilary Clinton.

Wait a minute, since when has Socialism/Communism been the manifestation of evil? Also, the so-called "communist democrats" have been in office before yet the United States isn't the big red evil enemy is it?

Do not fret my Republican friends. Obama has no chance in hell of becoming POTUS. None. Lets look at the TRUE facts, as hard as that might be for you dreamers out there. White middle class men will NOT as a majority vote for him. Nor will white middle class woman. This is people between 28-50. White Christians, gun owners (80,000,000) at least and upper middle and lower class Hispanics wont vote him either. This is based 100 percent on RACE alone. Yell all you......We know in our hearts this is true. I don’t give a damn if Richardson gave Obama the nod, most Hispanics outside NM hate Richardson. So this leaves Obama the following voters. Young kids who have NOT served in the military. A few million blacks without a felony record, and a few million whites that lean hard too the left. Maybe a couple million union votes as well. THAT IS IT. When this thing is over in Nov Obama is going to get his you know what handed to him by a old white man. it is going to be a real beating by the GOP. They have been playing chess for 3 years while you dems have been playing checkers. You really believe that this long fight for a dem nomine is by accident??......Come back to this in Nov and show me how wrong I was….lol

China is Communist spirtual. They are only simulating a Western economy to obtain goals relative to their Strategic Moderization Object. They are indeed Communist at the core and even more consilidation and dictorialship is being orchastrated by President Hu.

Nothing has changed. China is playing you for a fool if you believe that they are caving to Capitalism. They are not, and careful/strict sensoring is help ensuring it stays that way.

Originally posted by jetxnet
China is Communist spirtual. They are only simulating a Western economy to obtain goals relative to their Strategic Moderization Object. They are indeed Communist at the core and even more consilidation and dictorialship is being orchastrated by President Hu.

Nothing has changed. China is playing you for a fool if you believe that they are caving to Capitalism. They are not, and careful/strict sensoring is help ensuring it stays that way.

China is revisionist. They abandoned Marxist policies. It isn't an illusion nor is it a trick. They are in pursuit of being a full-fledged capitalist, or at least extreme revisionist. It is likely.

It happened to the Soviet Union, when Gorbachev came into office. It can happen to China.

I have to disagree with you there AztecSpritual. Russia only became democratic (in parts) after the break-up of the Russian Federation.

Russia broke-up into sections with secular governments, after trying to keep up with the US on the Star Wars Initiative and being defeated in Afghanistan. They ran out of money to support a Communist dictatorship.

North Korea is based on the Russian Marxist Constitution but is able to sustain it because everything is put into the military (much like Russia did), but the NK people suffer as a result with rampid starvation. It started happening in Russia too, but then the revolutions came and the eventual split-up into secular self-governed states.

So you see, China will not cave into Capitalism, otherwise you would see less censorship, which China goes to great ends. You would see less state-controlled institutions. You do not. What you do see is extensive censorship and all Chinese companies associated either directly or indirectly with the Poeples Liberation Army (a large part of the Communist Regime).

If it was just about race, Senator Obama would not be doing anywhere near as well as he has done.

I question his allegiance to the United States and whether he is a racist because of his affiliation with Reverend Wright for 20 years and the messages that the Trinity Church has spread over those years. Raila Odinga, Prime Minister of Kenya, is a first cousin to Senator Obama. I wish I could remember the website that had a picture of the two of them together in Kenya. Anyone can go to: en.wikipedia.org

search for: Kenya

It will describe Odinga's blood bath during the elections.

I have just read that Obama has distanced and let go one of his foreign advisors named Malley (can't remember his first name) because of his connections to Hamas. This is yet another association that Obama has had to relinquish.

It just keeps coming up that his past associations all seem to be less than desirable. The essence of a man is his past and the present. Senator Obama is constantly evading the truth about these associations. The poor guy has just been duped by so many people!

If that is the case, then Senator Obama has no business being the President of the United States because he has already proven that he does not possess good judgment skills. And, if he did know the backgrounds, personalities, and business dealings of these individuals and chose to keep these associations, then he still should not be President of the United States.

How can you tie him to being an extremist Muslim and say that he's "so pro-abortion that..."?

What do you really think?