Im voting for Mccain

Originally posted by FlyersFan

Originally posted by whaaa
Bushes Economy has tanked my small business [

Just wait until obama's tax increases hit the economy. It'll be worse.
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Your transparent, foolish scare tactics don't scare me. Obama's tax burden should be much less once he ends this stupid war. Let the Iraqi's sink or swim on their own. No more deaths of the American finest and bravest for a population that won't shoulder the burden of their own welfare.

Plus I don't mind paying my fair share of taxes if they are going to help this country's infrastructure. But using tax dollars to give oil companies subsidies chaps my ass. And I'm not to fond of foreign aid either or paying for no bid contracts and $300. for a goddamn claw hammer.
McCain will just continue the corruption, endemic in the Military/Industrial complex.

My business tax burden was MUCH less under Clinton and in those years my business grew and thrived.

As The Who said, "Won't get fooled again"

Throw out all the Republican's because they are part of the problem, not the solution.

In my neck of the woods, Republicans are even afraid to put their party affiliation on their campaign posters. What's that tell you?

BTW, I am a Republican and if I was running for office, I would expect to get a sound "thumpin" once again as the President said in the last election.
And justifiably so..........




[edit on 14-5-2008 by whaaa]

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
I don't think anyone openly supports late-term abortions.

Oh no?

But Obama's record on abortion is extreme. He opposed the ban on partial-birth abortion -- a practice a fellow Democrat, the late Daniel Patrick Moynihan, once called "too close to infanticide." Obama strongly criticized the Supreme Court decision upholding the partial-birth ban. In the Illinois state Senate, he opposed a bill similar to the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act, which prevents the killing of infants mistakenly left alive by abortion. And now Obama has oddly claimed that he would not want his daughters to be "punished with a baby" because of a crisis pregnancy -- hardly a welcoming attitude toward new life.

www.washingtonpost.com...

Barack Hussein Obama - Just kill it after it's born.

It doesn't matter if you vote for McCain or not, he's going to be our next president and there's not a damn thing we can do about it.

Well, you're just a Freaking idiot.

reply to post by SteveR


It seems to me there is a difference between openly supporting late-term abortions, and openly advocating in favor of the "woman's choice."

Sometimes our animosity fills in the gaps of reason though, without due diligence.

AAC

reply to post by FlyersFan


Not so unbelievable. You made erroneous references to Murder, Rape, and Whatever else when comparing "making up their own mind." The whole thread, or atleast my input has been designed around not voting on one story-line, and just because someone says their pro-life, doesn't mean they will have morals. Which is why I said Katrina victims were compared to voiceless murders, by an administration that is pro-life.

Hence the tunnel-vision comment.

AAC



[edit on 14-5-2008 by AnAbsoluteCreation]

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


Obama says he "trusts" women to make a call on partial birth abortions. Technically, it's a deceptive term. Since the victim in question is being born or has been born at time of death, pregnancy is already complete so the word 'abort'ion ceases to apply. It elevates to murder, which he entrusts to citizens should they feel it necessary.

I cannot begin to imagine the size of that worm can if he legalizes a form of actual murder.

The strange world of Barack Obama. I suppose it all makes sense to him.. I am still scratching though.

[edit on 2008/5/14 by SteveR]

reply to post by SteveR


I truthfully don't see the issue taking a step forward or a step back. There needed to be a middle ground on the sensitive issue, and now both sides will learn to live with it. imo, as always.

AAC

Originally posted by whaaa
Your transparent, foolish scare tactics don't scare me. Obama's tax burden should be much less once he ends this stupid war.

Flunked economics 101 in college .. didn't ya?

Obama is going to MASSIVELY raise taxes. He has 287 billion a year in new spending proposals. It is impossible not to raise taxes. 'Ending' the war won't pay for it all and even Obama knows he can't really end this war in a heartbeat - if ever. The war in Iraq is based upon the war on terror, which is a war against radical Islam and it will never end.

ALL people .. ALL .. will have their taxes raised in a massive way.
This will have a major negative effect on the economy and create
dependence upon entitlements and giveaway programs. Marxist/socialism in a nutshell.

You said you aren't scared. Well ... you should be.
You should be VERY afraid if he gets in.
Very afraid for your business and very afraid for yourself.

BOOOOO!

[edit on 5/15/2008 by FlyersFan]

reply to post by FlyersFan

Who? I can't folllow? The USA or Iraq is 'third world' according to you? Neither is, ya' know.

Now this quote just goes to show me what I've come to know.

Nowhere did I say anything about either country being a 3rd world, but you decided to go ahead and try to make a point for no reason.

Bored, or just trying start an argument?

Originally posted by bigbert81
Bored, or just trying start an argument?

Neither. But obviously YOU are. Re-read the damn post.
I said - I CAN"T FOLLOW ... I ASKED A QUESTION ...

Geeeeeeeeze people .... :shk:

When I say I can't follow your line of thought then that's EXACTLY what I mean. Please REWORD.

Originally posted by AnAbsoluteCreation
I truthfully don't see the issue taking a step forward or a step back.

Barack Obama is a changer. Everything he speaks about is going to take steps.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Ok, since my last posts apparently have disappeared, let me answer you again. First, when I see this:

The USA or Iraq is 'third world' according to you? Neither is, ya' know.

Followed directly after a reply to someone else, I'd say my last post stands. It appears you are looking to argue for no reason.

Second, the war IS illegal under international law. I know you've seen this, but you still argued it, so I'll show it again with hopes that you might read it this time:

And The World's Most Authoritative Answer Is ... Among the world's foremost experts in the field of international law, the overwhelming jurisprudential consensus is that the Anglo-American invasion, conquest, and occupation of Iraq constitute three phases of one illegal war of aggression. [3]

Moreover, these experts in the international law of war deem both preventive wars and preemptive strikes to be euphemistic subcategories of outlawed wars of aggression.

SRC: www.informationclearinghouse.info...

In my honest opinion I think that the war on drugs, Iraq, and abortion are the LEAST of our problems. The war on drugs will NEVER END, every time someone is arrested their are 5 dealers to take their place, plus people practically consider marijuana worse than heroin nowadays when its LESS LETHAL THAN ALCOHOL, CONSIDERING THE FACT THEIR HAS NOT BEEN ONE DEATH LINKED TO MARIJUANA USE.

Their are MURDERER's that get out because of mandatory sentence's that enable them to get probation early, their is a story of a man who killed a 5 year old girl, went to prison for 3 years, got out so a marijuana smoker could take his cell. He killed a 9 year old girl following the week he got out. THIS IS A MAJOR PROBLEM, whenever we start KEEPING MURDERER's and THIEVES off the everyday streets will be when we start taking a step in the right direction.

Now for the war on terrorism.... This is the stupidest and most rediculous thing I have EVER HEARD, no matter what people are going to hate people, YOU CANT STOP IT. PERIOD. Their will always be mentally ill people that just grow up and hate another race/country/whatever for no reason, and it does not matter how many tanks/soldiers we put in a country to stop it, it will NEVER be stopped, theirfore making it the absolute most pointless waste of money ever been spent. JUST LIKE THE WAR ON DRUGS. People hate people, end of story, watch out for you, period. In other words pull out of a ungodly pointless eternal stalemate, and imagine this, if we were not fighting a stupid pointless war that WE CAN NEVER WIN ANYWAYS we would not be spending $4,745 U.S. dollars A SECOND, or $284,722 dollars A MINUTE, or $17 MILLION A HOUR, or 410$ MILLION A DAY, or $12.3 BILLION DOLLARS A MONTH on a war that is IMPOSSIBLE to win. its preposterous how gullible the average american is and how they will use something as petty as abortion to compare to something that will kill like million's more overall. Guess what Pro-life people, THIS IS AMERICA, THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE COUNTRY OF FREEDOM, PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR OWN CHOICE ON WHAT THEY DO AND YOU SHOULD MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS, OR MOVE TO A IMPERIALISTIC COUNTRY THAT SHARES YOUR IDEALS. It's disgusting how unAmerican some people are. That is another way we can take a step forward is by ending the second war that is impossible to win, just like the drug war.

(Iraq+afghanistan money cost reference)theiraqinsider.blogspot.com...

Now for the most touchy subject, Abortion. You people that say abortion is "Wrong in almost all cases" is like being a vegetarian who thinks its wrong to eat beef and fish but still eats chicken. your dumb, if your any kind of intellegent, then guess what, you should have a full opinion of something and stick by it. No exceptions. The fact that abortion is illegal is crazy, their are people that will always be disgusting and take advantage of something like this, they will have sex, get pregnant, and use the A card. However their are also people that get raped who simply can not afford to have a baby, who are too young, their are plenty of exceptions. It is so easy to place the good people with the bad just because theirs crappy people. and to top it off, usually the people that are against abortion are really religeous (the majority of the time). well guess what mr/mrs. religeous fanatic, in YOUR bible it gives the option for people to choose what THEY WANT TO DO and be judged by THEIR GOD. NOT YOU, YOUR NOT GOD, ITS NOT YOUR SAY, ITS NOT YOUR LIFE, ITS THEIR LIFE.

This country was built on freedom, the war on drugs, the war on terrorism, abortion, the fact that ANYTHING is illegal is straight spitting in the face of our founding fathers. Their is no freedom here anymore. McCain is an idiot, im skeptical about Obama, however hes smart enough to not want to continue a STUPID WAR THATS IMPOSSIBLE TO WIN. If I offended anybody, good. I have just said it how it is.

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OMG..


WHY WHY... why for the love of god. Why can't America function anymore, do people function on over there, seriously.

WHY.

Its absurd. America will just never EVER learn. you know I heard this 8 years ago about Bush. They said hes more of a homebody, more American more down to the people. bla bla... 4 years ago they said Bush is the man, hes the one to save America and continue the "save" American from the so called "terroirists" the man for the job......

NOW fours later we have yet another yank. SAYING this AGAIN.

I have NO respect for America., its absaloute 0% from seeing this thread!!! Republicans are all the same. America NOW officially needs to be given back to the world. People there are voting for satanic men to lead their country once again to the same crap I'm tired of seeing day in day out in this world.


Mcain, Bush, Republicans are all mad for the oil. Oil money for the elections. Oil money for the shopping. Oil money to brainwash the news. Oil money to make my ass rich. Oil money to get my car to LA and back to New york. Oil money to keep my ass in power. Oil money comes with a price, you kill people like you and I to have all these desires.

And don't ever say I say America is gone retarded for nothig. They vote another man pretty much more like Bush than any other contender in this race.

I shout what the hell is wrong with that country... America have lost total touch with themselves. They are afraid of change afraid of progression and very VERY afraid to open their eyes to reality.

JESUS CHRIST.

I'm so sick of this, I'd run America better myself at 22 years of age, In fact any human being that has a heart and spirit about them can run that country. Obama is the only guy their with passion to move America in the right direction................... WAKE UP............ NOW..........

[edit on 16-6-2008 by mind is the universe]

reply to post by FlyersFan


RAISING taxes will teach you a lesson or two.....

The republicans put YOU in this hole and Obama has to fix it. And you as a country VOTED the bush IDIOT in again to make the country a bigger mess.


RAISING TAXES is a way of diciplining YOU LOT............ Not to make a mess of it and go out and rage war on the world. If anything it should be more than raising taxes. After all the oil and blood money that's in America right now.

It makes me sick as to what is the current issue with all americans. MONEY. America is turning into HELL.

Im voting for Mccain

wow...I`m so sorry.....my condolences
i wonder who will give the country`s Eulogy ..

Originally posted by Jon1117
McCain, definitely. There is the experience, the understanding of why we have to be in the middle east, and of course the MC Cain video on youtube.

But honestly, McCain gets my vote.

Understand, Understanding why they are in the middleast??.. Care to tell us? There is no word in my vocabulary that could express what I want to say to that crap.

Do you understand your country and how it affects me? or them? or those? and those overthere. Because I'm sick of hearing that its the world that needs to change, its them that needs to be fixed, its them that need to understand why we are in your country, they need to understand why we are in the middleast..

ABSURD.




[edit on 18-6-2008 by mind is the universe]

Originally posted by alienstar
Is this anyone else out there who thinks he is the perfect person for this job?He does have the most experiance i believe out of the other two.

McCain has said he would love to have Cheney as his vice-president.

McCain has said he'd keep us in Iraq for the next 100 years.

Those 2 reasons alone are why I wouldn't vote for him however there are plenty more.

A vote for McCain is a vote for WW III