Wigi Boards... Fake?

A few years ago I was using a Ouija board a lot while dating a mute iraq war veteran (was an interactive thing that did not require much conversation). Anyways, it was quite responsive, and we took it to a couple of old civil war cemeteries, but it never said anything that could not have come from one of our subconscious minds.

While in the cemeteries we would occasionally ask it for the name on a certain tombstone (one that was not visible to us) and it never knew (yes I realize those in the spirit world may have problems reading tombstones, but not whatever was spelling things out on that board).

I enjoyed it, though I would not use one in my home (one must have limits). It does seem the Parker Bros. boards work better than homemade boards, but that could easily be due to the slick surface (last minute home made boards aren't usually quite so smooth).

Quija boards, well the only stuff they work is from your subconscious, whatever you are thinking, it will say.

Like the story about the mine and stuff, deep down in his mind he knew it was a bad place, and something was going to happen. So when he asked the "Wigi" about it, his subconscious knew the truth.

You can say its not the mind that is moving the board, but the "spirits". Why, why would "spirits" be attracted to a game board?

I have dabbled in quite a number of "occult" tools, from Pendulums to Crystal Balls, even to Tarot cards. And I found that yes they do work, but it is not about
"spirits" working with you, its about the subconscious.

If you want to learn more about yourself, and what you need to change and do, experiment, but also know what you are experimenting with and how to use it correctly, or else you may end up opening a portal to HELL! Dun, Dun , DUNNNN!

Crystal Balls are a neat little thing to try with friends. You will learn so much about yourself and your friend that it will give you chills.

But maybe just maybe all these tools out there are just ways for your subconscious to tell your conscious mind. about stuff. Who knows.

Now if you really want something I have not quite figured out yet, what is working it, is a Witches board, much like the Psychics board.

Go forth and always know what you are dealing with.

You all must be very young.

You have to know that the board or whatever material it is made of has no power in itself. There is nothing inherently evil about the whole thing.
If you have bad experiences with it you should know that this is like holding a mirror up to your subconscious mind.

That's right! Whatever you get is what is inside you.
That should tell you what you need to know, and that you should do something about it.

Regards,
OZ

Like the story about the mine and stuff, deep down in his mind he knew it was a bad place, and something was going to happen. So when he asked the "Wigi" about it, his subconscious knew the truth.


Thank you for your input, however I have a few questions, and friendly arguments.... Australian mines are the safest mines in the world, and my partner was tossing up whether to leave (because he was away from home most of the week) or to stay (because working underground is really good money). He was not afraid of a cave in at all, so how could his subconscious have known? Also, how can it be someones subconscious coming through the board when multiple people are using it, and it sends a message for someone who is not even in the room, but asks one of the users to pass on the message!!!

I dont know how it works, but I guess my theory is that it opens a door between 'realms' and gives a chance for spirits or whoever/whatever is talking to you to pass on messages.

Also, in response to saying that it is just a board and nothing myystical about the actual board, maybe its the fact that a number of people are focusing their psychic and mental energy in one spot, and thats what opens the "portal" or "realm" for the spirits to get through... not the actual board. The board is purely designed for them to communicate!

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It's Ouija board as someone else said.
And its spiritually similar to turning on a spot light in a big pitch black room.
What your asking for might not be what gets there first.

When you believe in what you are doing.
As the factor of belief is a powerful part of any spiritual doing.
If you don't believe that you can do it, you can't.

Originally posted by youknowit

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OK, I'll respond... You probably mean a ouija board.
(t is - or should be, at any rate - pronounced wee-yah, because it's composed from the French and German words for "yes": oui and Ja, respectively.)

And my advice to anyone would be: stay away from them.
Really.
If you don't believe in communication with "spirits", then you have no use for it anyway.
If you do believe in it, then you should know that there are many forces much more powerful than man - and unknown to him, therefore also unpredictable.

I've never used it myself, but I have heard unsettling reports from people I consider perfectly reliable...


P.S. Sorry, I see that other people have responded in the meantime.
I didn't notice it before.








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If you don't believe that you can do it, you can't.

Oh, I don't know about that... I know of many people who were totally skeptical about it, but ended up having quite impressive experiences. Thomas Mann is one such example, to name just one famous person.





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Well, belief does play a factor.
At least as far as I can tell.
But you also got to remember there is such a thing as acting outwardly like a skeptic for whatever reason. But the unspoken maybe that he did in fact believe in it.
Isn't the human mind a strange thing after all?

Originally posted by just_julie
Thank you for your input, however I have a few questions, and friendly arguments.... Australian mines are the safest mines in the world, and my partner was tossing up whether to leave (because he was away from home most of the week) or to stay (because working underground is really good money). He was not afraid of a cave in at all, so how could his subconscious have known?

The subconscious is a wonderful thing to learn from, it holds all the information on what you will become, as well as what you need to do to get there.

Its all about how you interpret the message. Whether it be from your mind, or something else. So by using the board his subconscious told him to do the thing he needed to do.

Also, how can it be someones subconscious coming through the board when multiple people are using it, and it sends a message for someone who is not even in the room, but asks one of the users to pass on the message!!!

Now you say what happens when multiple people are using it, then you get answers to anybodys' questions in the room. But how can something come out with out anybody asking it?

Again, its all how you interpret the messages you get.

You say that the subconsous mind is what causes the outcome of the board... but! I'm not entirly sure the mind could inderectly cause physical things to happen (I.E. things like the raining money or the trashed room... and other things that have happened in these stories) I do belive that the mind can purposly be used to cause physical reaction i.e. telikeneses or psi or other things... but saying the subconsious mind is responsible for all of this would not make sense... to cause those types of reactions requires extreme concentration not sub minded thougts... it may be that the mind causes the board's answers but the physical things must be of another source....................

Talking to some friends recently and we ended up discussing another story!

Story:

They basicaly were asking it questions and it said that a loved one would soon be hurt... the next morning they found their dog in the yard with a cut down the line of its spine and was having a seizure... it died soon after...

It was quite a disturbing story...

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To your original question, yes - they are real, and I wouldn't screw with one at all. I witnessed an event at my home when I was about 18 (I'm 35 now) involving my sister and her friend. She was 16 at the time.

They were playing with the board, and asked a very straight-forward question - "Are you Satan?" The board flew across the room, and a cross / crusifix flew off the wall and onto her bed. The cross actually left a burn mark on her bed sheets that went straight into the bed itself.


Long story short - she had to either sleep in my room or our parents room for the next 2 months because she wouldn't sleep in her room (where the event occured). My dad had to get rid of the bed before she would go in there alone. After that, my sister became very religious.

I never really believed in them - the bords that is, and if I hadn't witnessed that event, I would have said she was full of BS. Even my parents were a little freaked, and my dad never believed in any of that stuff at all. 2 days later the board disappeared...

I'm just saying....

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i REFUSE to touch ouji boards, theres just something very foreboding about them, tarot cards and those are ok though even the stuff in the necronomicon arent as bad just ouji boards scare the living *#@% out of me

in my opinion, i believe them to be real. I've never used one though for the record. Here's a story straight from my friend i heard about 4-7 days ago.

He says this happened while he was in Brazil on his 2 year LDS mission (we both are LDS). Him, his companion (missionaries work in pairs) and two other sets of missionaries were living in the same apartment. They were all getting ready for bed when weird abnormal things started happening. Lights flickered, doors slammed, objects moved and whatnot. They went to thier local church building to telephone their Mission President and he advised them to go back there. They did and it was still happening. When they discovered it was still going on they went back to the church and phoned the MP again who came over their apartment immediately. When he arrived he noticed there were only 5 to count out of 6. He told my friend to get the missionary that was in the bathroom (no one knows how the MP knew one of the missionaries was in the bathroom) and when the missionary came out they discovered the missionary was using a ouiji board. He was sent home.

It has been advised to me my whole life that a ouiji board is bad. Although it contains no "magical" properties it is a way of allowing spirits (the third of the spirits cast out of Heaven) to come into contact with us. Once given permission to come into contact, one must go about the correct way and under the correct authority to ban the spirit from further contact.

Heh heh heh. Not even resonding to what could have happened. Only responding that I have heard this story before. lol.

A much too common excuse for anything paranormal is to dismiss it as the witnesses subconcious. That is fine for anyone who needs it. It actually can serve as a good survival mode or even sanity saver in times of paranormal activity! Rationalize it all away and stick to the reality of the masses... at least the one we're allowed to talk about. It's like religion...... there really is no wrong religion.......... it is everyone's spiritual evolution as to what religion they are or aren't. So is our beliefs or knowing also.

The Quija is merely one physical medium that enables us to focus on the invisible world surrounding us at all times. Automatic Handwriting is another way to get the same result. EVP is another.

There are absolutely amazing entities surrounding us at all times! There are also common folk like you and I and there are mediocre ones and evil ones.

I feel so fortunate to have been given astounding examples throughout my life of just a hint of what is really going on here around us... because I'm just a regular, puzzled and pondering average human being struggling through Life who has many regrets and is far from perfect. Yet........ for some reason...... I have been blessed with undeniable examples that still have me in awe when I reflect on them. Automatic handwriting, spontaneous out of body experience shared by another person at the same time, etc..... but I've rarely tried the Quija and never got results when I did. Guess I'm too much of a skeptic and the contacts I've had had to be much more "real" and undeniable to get through my thick veil of disbelief!

It's up to you what you want to focus on. There is more than just evil out there connecting with us. Most people who pick up a Quija Board are already programmed to believe it is evil... it is very hard not to be. So, you would have to get over and away from that first. If someone were working with the Quija Board and felt compelled to ask the spirit, "Are you Satan"..... then the conversation should have ended long before that. Set out with a purpose and plan. You wouldn't just go out and get into your car, start it and put it into drive without a course in mind or you would wreck! And that would not make the car the evil culprit! Drunk drivers are a good comparison to most teenagers with a Quija Board.

Long story short........ a version of spontaneous Automatic Handwriting happened to me once... only it was in the form of airbrush painting.... and that is how I got the avatar you should see in my post here. The second painting was of one of my brothers........ but he never got to see it because he was killed a week later. It was not my subconcious mind that created these.... they are not even my style of art and I hadn't painted in years. The series of paintings were sent to prepare my Mother and I for the events that were about to unfold.

The Quija Board...... the pencil and paper...... the airbrush.......... these are just the physical medium to enable us and them to make contact. Know that there are such wonderful entities watching over us!

Between the movies "The Exorcist" or "What Dreams May Come"........... which movie has had the most viewers or have you heard mentioned the most I wonder?

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Firstly awesome post. If I could give you more stars I would.

Between the movies "The Exorcist" or "What Dreams May Come"........... which movie has had the most viewers or have you heard mentioned the most I wonder?

Sadly, The Exorcist.
For a number of reasons.

For me personally, I was raised in a religious home and was taught my entire life that they were dangerous. And satanic. My sister told me a story when she was younger about her and a friend. I can't prove it of course, but she was truly terrified of them.

She said they had asked a question about Jesus and it told them to drink the blood of Christ and that then a large piece of meat fell from the ceiling and landed next to her.

This story stuck with me obviously, and when I was around 15, a friend of mine had been given one for his birthday. He asked me to play with it and I wasn't really scared, but only due to the fact that it was daylight, and for some reason that made me feel safer.

We sat down and followed the instructions but nothing ever happened. I told him the story and we decided it would be best to get rid of it.

We then proceeded to take it outside, and we chopped it up with an ax. Several pieces, and then we threw it into his grill and poured lighter fluid on it and watched it burn.

We then went back in his room and about an hour later his mother returned. She came into the room and said, "Why did you leave this on the porch?" and had the Ouija board in her hand. It looked brand new. We both freaked out. After we told her the story, she obviously thought we were lying, but she took it anyway and put it in her room. We never saw it again.

I don't know anything about them, but all of my Wiccan friends even tell me to avoid them.

The question I have always wondered is what made the toy companies mass produce these anyways? What was the original thought that created them?

Great thread

Good thread, for I too have found the ouija boards interesting. I've heard some strange stories as well.

My belief is that we all have free will and if we invite beings/others into our reality via the board, they can and probably will come. Who comes is not predictable and that can be a problem. Dark entities/spirits usually won't screw with you unless invited. But once invited your are fair game to play with!!!

That world from which they come is probably best left alone for most of us. Also like a genie in a bottle, it's easier to open them up then get them back in the bottle.

I'm wondering why Parker Brothers still has them on the shelf. Is there is a conspiracy of some sort with Parker Bros. selling a product that can open up people to other unworldly beings? Why would they sell such a product? I wonder how many they sell per year? Surely they know what they are doing by continuing to put these on store shelves??? It would be interesting to know the inside story.

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MY GOD! didnt you people see the exorcist? captain howdy will be upset at you nonbelievers.
oh and by the way,the necronomicon was written by j.p. lovecraft,circa 1900?
you should get some of his books,they are mostly short stories,but written in a way you will be amazed with. it's like he really was there. i rate him with poe and king anyday. Read on,mcduff,and enjoy!