Why Americans first?

If there's a plot for world domination, why should American citizens be the first to fall victim? We have camps and orders to detain and execute Americans by the millions while other countries go about their daily business.

Does this mean we could escape dooms day by moving to Holland until the dust settles? I can't seem to understand what our government has to gain by killing off its population as a first step to dominating the world.

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I can't seem to understand what our government has to gain by killing off its population as a first step to dominating the world.

Thats easy, to control masses easier. Once they get rid of undesirables and trouble makers (ones that could pose a serious threat to their plans) then there would be nothing to stop them. To win a war of world dominance first you have to win the battle of your own back yard.

Possibly because the US has the most powerful military in the world?

In a World coup type scenario, control of the US military would be vital.

The camps could be just for dissidents. I have a feeling there'd be quite a few...

I understand what you're saying, but what are they going to do with the other countries when poo hits the fan? Other nations aren't going to sit back and take it as we will be forced to.

I would assume that Americas government is in league with the other countries governments. They all take care of their own first then pool together for the rest.

Its not just America doing this.

Europe, Canada, England etc are all part of it (NWO)

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Zbigniew Brzezinski makes a few references to a possible war between China and Russia. That would keep a few nations busy.

Edit: In fairness to Brzezinski, he lays out a few other scenarios in his book, The Grand Chessboard.



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Originally posted by Quarantine

We have camps and orders to detain and execute Americans by the millions while other countries go about their daily business.

Now I have heard about these supposed camps and the railroad cars, but I haven't heard anything about any orders to execute millions of Americans.

Could you supply a source for your information here? I would like to read about it.

Thanks

Ok, so other leaders plan on doing the same, it would only make sense that the world will be run under one government consisting of other world leaders coming together to form one evil empire? I was always under the impression that this was a United States government plan to own the world.

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But then again all the USA has to do to control its people is to induce a state of fear and pro government frenzy as they did with 9/11 (inside job) and the people will follow like sheep without question as they did with 9/11.

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I would put it more as the most wealthy/powerful people controlling the world kind of thing rather than one specific country or government.

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They would surely use the United Nation as their vehicle.

I mean it's basically a world government already in place, it just needs to become accepted as such.

Originally posted by Enthralled Fan

Now I have heard about these supposed camps and the railroad cars, but I haven't heard anything about any orders to execute millions of Americans.

Could you supply a source for your information here? I would like to read about it.

Thanks

This in itself is a conspiracy within a conspiracy. Basically it is believed that the facility in Beech Grove is one of our many execution camps setup for an American Holocaust while the NWO is in full swing.

"The infrastructure is set up. There are at least 130 concentration camps — quietly modified facilities which have sprung up and continue to spring up across the country, seemingly devoid of activity, yet requiring strange accoutrements such as barbed wire-topped fencing (with the tops turned inward) and helicopter wind socks. Most have good logistical supportability, with major highways and railroad transport facilities adjacent to the sites.

"These facilities, many in remote areas across our country, are set up to become concentration/detention camps, complete with gas chambers, for resisters and dissidents. Generally speaking, they’re set up for dissenters who will not go along with the New World Order. The ‘resisters’ are gun owners who refuse to give up their weapons; the ‘dissidents’ are Christians, Patriots and Constitutionalists. These camps are set up. I’ve seen many of them.

"On August 6, 1994, I toured the Amtrak Railcar Repair Facility at Beech Grove, Indianapolis, Indiana. There are at least ten maintenance barns at this facility, covering 129 acres, with two separate fences with the tops leaning inward. The windows of several buildings have been bricked up. Hence, you have three levels of security for Amtrak repair barns! There are three helicopter 25-knot aviation wind socks (which aren’t the correct ones to use for chemical spills which require 10-knot wind socks). There are high security NSA-style people turnstiles, and high intensity/security lighting for 24-hour operation. The box car (gas chamber) building fence is marked with special ‘RED/BLUE Zone’ signs [visible in the photo ]. This corresponds to the ‘mission’ of the RED/BLUE Lists which surfaced in June and July of 1996. Under martial law, this will become a death camp. They’re only going to handle category one and two (RED and BLUE) people there. This box car facility will be used for execution.

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They wouldn't need too many execution camps. A deadly virus would take care of that (one that they would have a cure for themselves of course). The camps are probably for "re education"

It's interesting that you say that, because in I believe last years FEMA handbook as well as the NSA/Homeland Securities publicised reasoning behind immediate declaration of Martal Law is based on the threat of a bio-terrorism attack against the United States.

Thanks for supplying the link. It is a frightening read, if in fact true.

The article was done in 1997, and the person had research going back to 1994.

With that said, I wonder what is taking so long?

I also wonder about the red and blue lists. In 11 years, don't you think a lot of the people might have moved around, died, etc?

How are they going to find you if you are on it?

It makes sense. A highly contagious air born virus that they would have engineered and have a cure for would be easy to spread throughout the USA and the world. They could blame it on nature, and say they are "trying to find a cure" for it yet for the masses, that cure would never be found. It would take months for anyone to notice and by that time it would be too late. There are also many ways for them to spread the virus too.

water supplies, food, drug use, sexual contact. Don't think for a second that at their labs at USAMRID and the CDC that they aren't engineering deadly diseases and viruses like AIDS, antrax, ebola, small pox, influenza etc.

Look at the bird flu and sars scare.

Some people will look at it as mother nature while others will see it as a sign of revelations. I will always blame the governments/nwo people first. They are the only ones to gain from this sort of thing.

That's always the basic logical flaw in any "World Domination" scenario. If you want people to work for you and produce the most for you, you can't kill or enslave them, because they'll only work the minimum amount necessary to keep themselves alive. But if you incentivize them, reward them for hard work with money and objects, they'll work like crazy. With only a few exceptions, a carrot works much better than a stick when it comes to people.

FEMA supposedly destroyed these lists in I *think* 2004 or 05. If anyone actually believes that these lists aren't still being populated and maintained they are sadly mistaken (in my opinion of course).

I read a post here on ATS some time ago where someone sent a letter to the FBI demanding an explanation of these lists and inquiring about which list if any his name may have been placed on. To no surprise the FBI did not send him a reply, however FEMA has publicly acknowledged the existence of these lists which to me is down right...scary.

Originally posted by Enthralled Fan
How are they going to find you if you are on it?

Everyone (just about) uses some sort of credit card nowadays, or a check card, or pays bills to someone, thus offering up their address or contact information... you can be found, unless you do what is necessary to make yourself hidden.

I suppose thats one way of looking at it. But really with the brainwashing techniques that they have today they probably wouldn't have to offer very much if anything at all. Fear is a powerful motivator.