DC Madam commits suicide in Tarpon Springs [Madam List pg 2]

reply to post by mike dangerously


thanks for that. i had it at the tip of my tonmgue but could not get it right. new it was close to a senator. webb from virginia. thanks again!

We haven't heard anything from the one person who knew palfy better than anyone. The mother. I hope she speaks out on this tragedy. I also hope she wasn't subjected to a gag order or threat to remain quiet.

It appears no one posted this audio (via video) of Alex jones speaking with the "DC Madam" -- he specifically asks her if she wants to clarify that she does not intend to kill herself...

I am trying to copy the other files, and it seems "'DC Madam' phone records - Sprint -January - December 2005 Docs 37-73 (50 pages, .pdf)", file was damaged and could not be repaired, so those records are lost for me any way. does any one have a copy?

Also same with "'DC Madam' phone records - Sprint -January - December 2005 --Docs 1-36 (48 pages, .pdf) 16 Aug 2007.

And
'DC Madam' phone records - Sprint -January - December 2005 --Docs 1-36 (48 pages, .pdf)

seems none of the files are opening now.

[edit on 2-5-2008 by ADVISOR]

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I hope this link will help download the files.

DC Madam Phone Records Posted, Also Available Here

www.clevelandleader.com...

Ok, thank you. I got these('DC Madam' Contacts - Phone Numbers, 'DC Madam' Contacts - Names), files saved, but the rest won't work on the first link of yours, will try the second later. Need to eat and go see Ironman soon.

reply to post by RabbitChaser



That sure doesn't sound like a person with suicide on her mine. She sounds rather calm over the matter and was going to open up in the court room about them, whoever they were..

That must of scared em into pullin a drastic measure from there little black book of dirty tricks.

Was wondering if any one came up with more info or conclusions as to this case? Seems interest has slipped away along with the current headlines of yesterday.

I hope this isn't just a who cares, let it be forgotten type of thread. Because it is plain people do care what happened.

I saw this of Fox News website this morning.

Death of 'D.C. Madam' Becomes Rich Ground for Conspiracy Theory
Thursday, May 01, 2008
By Greg Simmons
Hustler magazine publisher and free-speech advocate Larry Flynt -- one of Palfrey's staunchest advocates -- was the strongest voice forwarding the notion that Palfrey's death was not by her own hands.......Flynt was an integral part in keeping Palfrey's story public and worked with her and investigative reporter Dan Moldea to break the story that the phone number of Sen. David Vitter, R-La., was among those numbers in Palfrey's client list. Flynt targeted Vitter because he had campaigned for office on a family-values platform.

www.foxnews.com...

I don't know how credible Larry Flynt is as a character witness, but he has had the opportunity to know Palfrey on a personal level. I think that this story has "legs" and will continue to build interest. I do not know her and have no way of knowing whether she committed suicide or not but the extraordinary circumstances demand further investigation.

reply to post by Sparky63


Yes, from day one he was voicing that he do not believe that she killed herself. Interesting that one of her former employees also committed suicide before going into trial, I believe that another member posted a link to the story.

But the relationship with flynt is that he was working to bring down or nail the hypocrites as he call all the conservatives that were heading the impeachment of Clinton.

It seems that Flynt has been telling that he has more of this so call conservatives information linked to DC madam escort services.

But is unclear of how much prof he has, but it was enough to nail Sen. David Vitter.

blog.washingtonpost.com...

I got this also in the news,

Building Manager: DC Madam's Death Not Suicide

The building manager, who did not want to show his face, talked with Palfrey Monday before she left for her mother's in Tarpon Springs. He strongly believes Palfrey's death was not a suicide.

It seems that he was one of the latest person that talked to Palfrey before her death.

Palfrey’s building manager said she often told him she believed she was being followed and he thinks there may have been some former clients of her escort service who wanted her dead.

She was voicing her concern that she was been followed, interesting.

Also that she believed to been on some kind of hit list or contract.

"She insinuated that there is a contract out for her and I fully believe they succeeded," her building manager said.

www.wesh.com...


[edit on 4-5-2008 by marg6043]

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Not yet....and no, interest is certainly not waning, however you were right, to a degree it IS a daunting task lol.

Anyway, it seems a lot of the numbers thus far as non-distinct in that, they coud be anything at all or anyone at all.

Still processing here, I will update when I have anything concrete.



AB1

It was reported that she had 10,000 clients dating back to 1993. It was also reported that:

In a February e-mail to federal prosecutors, Palfrey threatened to make "life miserable for those who used her escort agency's services," court records show.

The same article hinted that there might be a connection to the Clinton administration.

While Palfrey has not specifically mentioned any individuals or Washington power brokers as clients, on Thursday the political newsletter The Hotline wrote, "A lawyer for an indicted D.C. madam is trying to drag Dick Morris into a juicy case that may involve thousands of former clients" and that when he was a Clinton adviser, Morris' "toe-sucking sessions with a professional call girl" were revealed. Though Morris "admitted publicly that he hired prostitutes from more than one agency, it's unclear whether he has any connection."

The Hotline went on to say Palfrey's attorney served a subpoena on Morris to "give a deposition on information, if any, he may have about the call-girl service."

www.msnbc.msn.com...

Given her extensive list of clients, many in positions of power, it is not surprising to me that this happened.

She had considered selling her 46lbs of records to pay for her legal expenses but may have been thwarted by a federal judge from using any proceeds for her defense.

The media seems to be buying Dan Moldea's statement that the DC Madam
told him of her intention to commit suicide. Yet there is no tape of this conversation, no eyewitness that it took place, only his claim.

If he truly was a friend and confidant, why did he do nothing to stop her from committing suicide, like perhaps...I don't know....maybe inform her relatives, her lawyer...the local authorities? If she truly told him her intentions, He evidently did nothing about it.
Some friend!

More reason I think to conclude that it is not likely that she committed suicide.


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I don't bite into the Moldea suicide confession I thin tkhat what she said many years ago is been prop to sound like she did it recently to change the real issue here.

The links to Clinton's administration

Well It seems that the Madam got a gag order by a Clinton-Appointed judge

Gladys Kessler
Gladys Kessler is an United States District Court Judge for the District of Columbia. She was nominated to the court by President Clinton, a Democrat, and is known as one of the most liberal judges in the D.D.C. Judge Kessler was appointed to the United States District Court for the District of Columbia in July 1994.

This happen in 2007 so that is where the link may be related to the Clinton administration.

U.S. District Judge Gladys Kessler placed a temporary restraining order on Palfrey and her civil attorney, prohibiting them from sharing additional phone records with news organizations or the public.

sweetness-light.com...






[edit on 5-5-2008 by marg6043]

Originally posted by keeb333
If you believe Palfrey killed herself, I've got some property on the moon you may be interested in....

It is painfully obvious that she was silenced to keep the Washington insiders from being named prior to her sentencing. Pathetic bastards!

[edit on 1-5-2008 by keeb333]

Could you elaborate on any evidence you are aware of which would suggest this...or is this just your opinion based on a few news articles?

Here is link to the suicide note that she wrote to her mother.
a.abcnews.go.com...

She clearly states that she cannot spend the next 6 to 8 years in prison only to emerge penniless. She referred to her ordeal as a modern day lynching.

Very sad.

[edit on 5-5-2008 by Sparky63]

Here is her note to her younger sister:
a.abcnews.go.com...

[edit on 5-5-2008 by Sparky63]

I feel a little creepy posting these.....but it is in the public domain. I apologize if anyone is offended.

[edit on 5-5-2008 by Sparky63]

Smart people know that to be successful at suicide is to be quiet about it.

If you really want to kill yourself, you can't let anyone know because you will be committed to an instituion and placed on suicide watch.

This story is ripe for conspiracy, but the fact is that Palfrey was facing a possible 55 years in prison at age 52.

It is my understanding that she had been in prison before and that she had stated that she had no intention of going back, even if it was for 8-15 years.

I don't see that killing Palfrey would have been more effective than putting her in prison for the rest of her natural life or even just a decade or so.

Police in Tarpon Springs, Florida, released Palfrey's suicide notes Monday, along with autopsy results confirming her cause of death as a suicide. Her mother and sister confirmed the notes' authenticity, police said.

"I cannot live the next 6 to 8 years behind bars for what you and I have both come to regard as this 'modern-day lynching' only to come out of prison in my late 50s a broken, penniless and very much alone woman," she wrote.

The front of the note was marked "Do not revive (DNR). Do not feed under any circumstance."

"I'm looking at 55 years in a federal penitentiary, and at my age, that is virtually a life sentence," Palfrey told CNN Radio's Ninette Sosa in March. "Realistically, we estimate between eight and 15 years. I'm also looking at the complete forfeiture of my entire life savings and work."

www.cnn.com...

Realistically, she was looking a 6 to 8 years, Not too bad all things considered.


This is not even taking into account the appeal process, time off for good behavior...ect.

The notes are compelling evidence for suicide though. I hope one day we will know for sure, one way or another.

[edit on 5-5-2008 by Sparky63]

It's interesting though that the suicide note is dated a week before she actually committed suicide. That seems a liitle strange to me.

I think that during the week I would surely think of something I had forgotten to say and have to ammend it. But then again, I've never considered killing myself so I don't understand the mental gymnastics involved in making such a decision and then actually doing it.

Well I found more information on the shady circumstances of her death.

It seems that she made arrangements with her apartment manager for the next 6 years, the time that she thought it was going to be spending in jail.

Palfrey’s hi-rise apartment manager in Florida says he saw Palfrey only days before her death when she told him a contract may be out on her life. Additionally, she made arrangements to secure her apartment for the next six years– the approximate time she expected to be in prison–seemingly pointing to the idea that she expected to stay alive.

Also the interview in Geraldos show with Alex Jones.

Jones points out the numerous statements Palfrey made in refutation of suicide, as well as the criminology that women rarely hang themselves, generally preferring pills.

Geraldo and two co-hosts admit they agree with Alex Jones– that claims of Palfrey’s suicide are “stinky” and suspicious and that the case should be further investigated.

www.zimbio.com...

Funny that the so call suicide confession to Moldea is what is getting center stage.

But nobody tells that this so call Modea had that information ready for the times just two hours after the confirmation of DC madam's death.

fishy.