Alien Life Beyond Earth. The Evidence.

Great post Mike, gave it a star.


You and Ms Byrd are the two I always tune into when you post.



I am curious though, how is it determined a rock or meteorite is of Martian origin?

Is it knowledge that's been around a while or was it something learned from the robotic explorations of Mars?

Excellent post mike! Panspermia is indeed a viable theory. If only skeptics could use the same degree of academic rigor in their critiques we all would stand to learn something new. Keep up your inspired work.

Originally posted by Desert Dawg
I am curious though, how is it determined a rock or meteorite is of Martian origin?

Hi DD! According to NASA, analysis of gas bubbles trapped in the meteorite, have a composition which matches the current Martian atmosphere as measured by the Viking Landers. It is therefore evident that this meteorite came from Mars.

More here...

Cheers!

Thanks.

Interesting and educational article.


The articles you post are one of the main things that make ATS worthwhile.

Beats the doom and gloom all to heck and gone....

As always, excellent job putting htis together, it's mindblowing stuff i

Can't wait to show this to my sceptic friends !

This is basicly the evidence for aliens, altho in bacterial form, bacteria's are alive.

Thnx for posting this, starred and flagged !

Well done with the research.

I watched a documentary some time ago on this subject of the Red Blood Rain of India. highly likely to be the one linked to in this thread (Apologies as haven't checked) It was on Discovery Channel I recall.

This is such a fascinating area of research into extremiphiles. Quite how this became a "rain shower" still makes me scratch me head.
I don't it would it have just spilled from the back of the rock it came through the atmosphere upon. As the rock passed through the cloud cover maybe it reacted with the already to be rain clouds.

How would this happen?

Mike, it's getting to the point where if I see one of your posts, I just star and flag it out of habit

Nice work as usual. Glad to see you have your own forum now. If John Lear can't be a conspiracy master anymore (why was his forum taken away again?), you'd easily be my next choice. This is definitely some compelling evidence I must pass along to others. I've heard all this stuff before, but it's great to finally have it all in one place!

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Thanks CT! Glad you like the thread. The aim is to add to the quality of ATS. And research adds to one's knowledge too, and that's the only thing you can take back with you! Now am I sounding too philosophical??

Cheers!

I am from Kerala,India where the "red rain" thing happened.I saw that.But I've never heard of the theory that the rain contained microbes from outer space.

Originally posted by d4rk3n3rgy
I am from Kerala,India where the "red rain" thing happened.I saw that.But I've never heard of the theory that the rain contained microbes from outer space.

Now you know!!

'There are more things in Heaven and Earth than can be dreamt of in your philosophy'.
Shakespeare


Cheers!

Originally posted by mikesingh
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Thanks CT! Glad you like the thread. The aim is to add to the quality of ATS. And research adds to one's knowledge too, and that's the only thing you can take back with you!

Now am I sounding too philosophical??

Cheers!

Too bad that doesn't work if you stop reading after the first page and call bs. Why don't you follow your own philosophies regarding an other thread, I think some people are waiting for a reaction, seems like you are avoiding it like the plague. Really makes me wonder.

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Oops! It seems you're really infuriated with that post of mine in the thread you mentioned.

Well, check out my reply! And you'll know what got my gills!!

Cheers!

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looks like the Morgellons fibers I and others have crawling through our bodies.


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Originally posted by ArMaP
Another good post, mikesingh, a star and a flag for you.

But unfortunately (for the advance of our knowledge about life) these are still just theories, lets hope they can have some confirmation of at least some of the cases.

[edit on 26/4/2008 by ArMaP]

Actually, finding the amino acids in the meteorite is pretty conclusive. Most amino acids are stereo isomers, meaning they exist in a left-hand and right-hand form,where each is a mirror image of the other. All amino acids on Earth are of the left-handed variety, but the amino acids found in the meteorite are of the right-handed variety.

I'd also like to add that the metorite mentioned by the OP may have been one that they found left-handed amino acids in. THe metorite had been handed around for years, and the amino acids found most likely came from it being handled. However, subsequent carbonacious meteorites have been found that couldn't have been contaminated and that have right-handed amino acids.

And lets not forget the Miller-Urey experiment, it's been reproduced several times.

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Hi Mike is it possible for the crystalline structures to find host bodies here on earth>

There is one such 'syndrome' that could fit the possibility. Discovered only recently in the 20th century, it is called "Kartagener's"

This rare condition causes among many other possibilities a condition called 'Situs Inversus". This is when the organs actually mirror one another and are actually on the opposite side and backwards.

My Step daughter has this syndrome and even her heart is on the right side and backwards.

An interesting point, it seems like the children with this condition look alike.

With the nuclei acids on the crystals spinning from the right, opposite what our gravitational field has acclimated itself to, is it is possible?

Could these dust particles be taking host bodies? You should see what the DNA strand of kartagener's looks like, its twisted in different directions and missing the flow of our average or normal DNA.

I tried to look for the pictures of the DNA but cannot locate theme, maybe you could find them? A picture would be worth a million words.

One more interesting attributes of Kartagener's, the children suffer from loss of cilia, in other words they lack the cilia which cuts down the dust and particles that flow though the air we breathe.

Sorry if this seems way off base it was just while reading your link to me, it occured to me , what if?

I have a quick question...how is it possible for scientists to find signs of life or even planets habitable through telescopes, radars and various sensors from the universe?

Like.....these:
web.mit.edu...

This transit-detection method, by measuring the exact amount of light obscured by the planet, can pinpoint the planet's size. When combined with spectroscopic follow-up observations, it can determine the planet's temperature, probe the chemistry of its atmosphere, and perhaps even find signs of life, such as the presence of oxygen in the air.

Arecibo Radio Telescope


I mean even though I know on earth all magnetic-waves travel at the speed of light, and we can relay and receive information fairly quickly, but isn't it kind of pointless to use radio-telescope and transit-detection methods when we are searching for distant planets or signs of alien intelligence billions of light years away.

I mean lets use the transit-detection method as an example. So lets say we use this method and we found a planet that is habitable for life, and we point a redirect the radio telescope to the coordinates of the planets and hope to find intelligence. But, unfortunately we don't, why because the information we receive from that distant planet is billion of years old, for all we know the planet is could be long gone, or be thriving with intelligent life, but we won't be able to find out to a few billion years later, when the current light and sound waves travel to earth.

On top of that, wouldn't gravity, dark matter, and other cosmic material distort the information were receiving?

P.S. Correct my logic if its wrong, I'm by no means a professional, its just something that's been urking me for a while.

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Interesting points, antar. Now that needs further reading. I’ll be on it soon!

Originally posted by skyblueff0
....the information we receive from that distant planet is billion of years old, for all we know the planet is could be long gone, or be thriving with intelligent life, but we won't be able to find out to a few billion years later, when the current light and sound waves travel to earth.

Good point skyblueff0. Whatever info we get through Aracebo etc would be eons old, depending upon the distance of course! But at least it'll help us to deduce that we were/are not alone in the universe if we do find the 'right' conditions for life according to our percepts.

Second, it would help us to understand the dynamics of life and conditions required for life to have manifested in the universe, by conducting experiments with similar conditions as obtaining there.

But yes, as you say, we will never be able to get any real time info from planets that are parsecs away, at least not until we perfect FTL travel!

And Now Probable Life On Venus!

Forget Mars for the present. Scientists say that the clouds of Venus could harbor life! Unbelievable as it may sound, they have discovered a gas, carbonyl sulphide which is so difficult to produce inorganically that it may an unmistakable indicator of biological activity.

Venus is usually written off as a potential haven for life because of its hellishly hot and acidic surface. But conditions in the atmosphere at an altitude of around 50 kilometres are relatively hospitable: the temperature is about 70 °C, with a pressure of about one atmosphere.

Although the clouds are very acidic, this region also has the highest concentration of water droplets in the Venusian atmosphere. Solar radiation and lightning should produce large quantities of carbon monoxide in the planet's atmosphere, but instead it is scarce, as if something is removing it. They also found hydrogen sulphide and sulphur dioxide. These two gases react with each other, and so are never normally found together unless something is producing them.

Now on to the other planets in our Solar System. Let’s see what’s out there!

space.newscientist.com...

It is always interesting to note and to get the thoughts of every one with regards to scientific findings on the subject of alien life forms. But it is always hard to believe that "up to now" many scientist and scientific minded people cannot reconcile the vast knowledge and ideas about the Universe that "Life do exist in the vastness of space" and it is true that there are indeed billions and billions of human like forms and earth like planets out there...and that Universe is evolving and expanding. Our dear earth is simply "One" of the numerous planets that inhabits life.
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Therefore it is always wise to consider and wiser still to accept the truth that MANKIND do exist elsewhere in the many galaxies.
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Cheers!!
Antonii DJ