Bees vanish- all life has 4 yrs to live on Earth

Originally posted by greenfruit
Even if Bees should die out (North America) This is not a world wide problem.
Only one-third of the human diet is derived from insect-pollinated plants. So don't panic yet guys.

So what do the live stock eat which takes up most of the other 2/3's
IMO we don't need bees, wasps and such will do the job.

More than half of all honey bees in Denmark died this winter... They believe they died from some virus, and they fear for the consequences.

reply to post by rikriley


Here's a thought... why would the government not invest enough money to figure out what's happening, since we know how crucial bees are to our existence! I was reading about NWO and how one of the ultimate agenda is for us to grow food indoors (genetically), that way they can add what ever chemical they want (such as fluoride to our water) to gain an upper hand on their psychological warfare!

I know it's out there, but I'm not so impressed with the government and seen lot of cruel things so I wouldn't be surprised!



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About a year ago is when I first heard about the bees and didn't really think much about it. My thought at first was it will be nice to barbecue and not have them hanging around.

Well I could have smacked myself but after I thought about it I knew as much as them being a pain there is a reason for them.

What I was mostly surprised was when we called the exterminator and them saying they don't kill them because we need them because of all the missing bees. When he said he will try and look to get a beekeeper it really hit home at how important it is we them those pain in the butt critters.

It has been known that you should watch the animals and they will tell you when something isn't right.

Has anyone here noticed that the frog population has dwindled significantly as well. When I was a kid it was nothing to go outside and catch 50 or so frogs in a night. Now I honestly can't tell when I last saw one.

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Thanks greenfruit for your input, The bees used for organic pollination for farming have not been affected by what they call colony collapse. This ought to tell us something that either the pesticides are helping to kill off the bees or genetically modified seeded crops in many cases could be doing the same thing. Rik Riley

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Thanks for sharing whatsup I live in S.W. Florida and have noticed a decline in honey bees and not much of a decline in tree frogs. Still plenty of ants to go around they seem to be on the increase. Rik Riley



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Are bees intentionally being killed off to usher in the use of genetically modified seeds or other artificial food sources?

reply to post by freighttrain


Hi freighttrain, I do not know what our government is doing to the population of the U.S. and if we are being used as guinea pigs. I remember as a child visiting my grandparents house in Michigan and my grandfather was adamantly against the city adding fluoride to the city water system because he believed and did studies showing that adding it would be detrimental to the health of the population. Rik Riley



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Hi skoalman88 I do not think the powers that are are trying to kill off the bees using genetically modified crops. What I believe happened the seed companies did not realize that it could possible affect the bees in the way it has and when you try to manipulate mother nature it can backfire. Rik Riley

Einstein was a smart guy, maybe the smartest guy ever. So when he said that the disappearance of bees would lead, within four years, to the disappearance of humans, people took notice.
"If the bee disappears from the surface of the earth, man would have no more than four years to live."

Problem is, the famed physicist never said it.

Source:
www.thedailygreen.com...

First post by a new member here - I actually signed up just after reading this post.
To all those who think the bees are dying out due to cellphones or electromagnetic waves, I think I have some evidence that it may be something else; something similar happened around the turn of the century.

www.forestry.gov.uk...
news.bbc.co.uk...

The BBC news has the account of the british bees being wiped out c. 1900 in the comments section, and the forestry man mentions it as occurring around 1914. Oddly enough, though, the sources give conflicting accounts as to what it was that wiped out the bees...

I'm not trying to say it's not phones, electromagnetic waves of anything of that sort which are contributing to the collapse of hives, merely to point out that mass extinctions of bees occurred 100 years ago, due to a rather nasty parasite. It would appear that the bees are being killed off by all kinds of things - and we need to do something about it.

wooo, first post made

heres what i dont get though, if bees are dying off all over the world and its a huge problem, why has there been no increase in the price of honey combined with a decline in honey availability here in Australia?

blue gum honey, red gum honey, ordinary honey... the prices and availability are unchanged.

or is this problem mainly located in the USA?

reply to post by Hellmutt


Thanks for the info Hellmutt we are living in strange times and we hope that these bee viruses can be arrested overseas as well as here in the U.S.

Tonight on CBS Nightly News a segment about colony collapse disorder was talked about and how new students were taking bee keeper classes to help with new and older colonies and to help with the problem with the dying bees. The trainees were paying $1000 for the class and my hat goes off to them for their great contribution to mankind. Rik Riley

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Thank you for your information on the Bee mites and the dying off of hives in Europe. The world will have to come together as a team to keep our precious bees alive even if it takes the governments around the world stepping in to fund the massive project.

Also let me welcome you to ATS where a great diversity of special individuals around the world exchange ideas and debate or share their thoughts on a minute to minute bases on thousands of incredible topics. Rik Riley

I have heard about massive honey bee disappearance or die off from C2C and remember seeing a documentary about this almost a year ago. Seems the conclusion was multiple contributing factors like mites, viruses and fungi-more specifically a total failure of the bees immune system as some individual bees tested had multiple problems/diseases. Cell phone towers and EM fields were talked about as a possible cause but it seems it was dismissed back then. The problem has gotten so bad that I don't think it can easily be dismissed anymore.

I have heard about bee keepers here on the west coast (Oregon, California) loosing almost all of there bees and they are now forced to import bees for the first time. I think some effort needs to be done to track where the bees are going if that's not already being done. Are they all flying off in random directions or are they following some guy playing a flute? Lets start making a bunch of bee cams, and then maybe we can watch the big bumbles chase dgtempe around the yard.

Something to keep in mind about wild hives is that they have the ability to move away from problem areas, if there are any, and domestic hives are placed in locations where they are needed for crop pollination and then they all fly away or die. Are these locations problem areas? One more thing, if honey bees are responsible for 80% of all insect pollination then what's the percentage for edible food bearing plants? A chain reaction of this sort will most definitely be very bad regardless what Einstein has ever said.

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Hi observe50 thanks for your input and what sometimes we think as a pests are in actuality one of our best friends, the honey bee. Don't it always seem to go that we don't know what we got till it's gone. Hmmmmm sounds like a song.
Rik Riley

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Hi Devino all valid points the domestic bee is put into harms way and pays the consequences whether it be from cell phone towers emitting electro magnetic signals, high lines EMF from power companies, pesticides, herbicides, genetically modified crops etc.

Not only is the honey bee affected by everything we as humans pay the consequences also from all of these things. The bees give us early warning signs and just so happen to be the canaries in the cage. Rik Riley



[edit on 26-4-2008 by rikriley]

I found an article about the bumblebee population in the UK. Of the 25 species native to the region 3 have become extinct and 7 are endangered now. Here you go rik. Thanks for the OP! Causing a buzz

Richard Hoagland has great take on the current "bee syndrome"

He sites that only "corporate" bee hives have been experiencing colony collapse.

He also asserts that the corporate hives use a hive template which is larger than the standard bee hive. The change in honeycomb size changes the geometrical
frequency of the bees habitat

hoagland on coast 2 coast