Bush Stimulus Package - Was It A DEAL or DUD? SOUND OFF

Its a bunch of crap that the folks who made less than $3000.00 won't get a dime. They are the ones who need it the most.

Everyone needs to put this money away and forget that you have it. We'll all get taxed on it next year anyway. If you have to use it, (medical bills, credit cards) then you have to use it. People are scraping by, but they ARE making things work. And the money ain't here yet.
The reason for the food rationing is that people hear all about how bad things are going to get from the media, and they are running out and buying all the rice and other things up. If Joe store manager usualy orders 50 lbs of rice a month to stock his shelves, and then 10 or 20 panicked shoppers swarm through the doors foaming at the mouth and mumbling something about the end times and buy up all the rice, then Joe store manager has to limit said rice to one bag per family.
The media has been told to inform you that the world is going to hell in a little red wagon. Then hopefully after seeing all the constant killing of pregnant mothers, gunfire and cannons blasting in the sand, and the little hairless peach fish girls beating down their classmate on video, you will start to believe that you're riding in the front seat of that wagon. You can almost smell the brimstone at this point. So you run out and boost the economy by sucking up all the food you can get your hands on.
The major news stations, which can be traced back to one person who owns them all, runs this stuff on loop 24/7 365. The best way to destroy a nation is to print more money until it becomes worthless. Save yours for a rainy day if you can...

Dud. While it is certainly nice to get some of my own money back from the government, I don't feel that it will do much to help the economy. For me, all this rebate is going to do is pay for most of my trip to the race at Bristol this August.
My first post on ATS btw...

[edit on 25-4-2008 by md11forever]

It won't work.

People will spend it on the wrong things (illegal things), or put it in the bank (like we will for our daughters college fund), etc etc. Even if people all went out and spent it like we were encouraged to do .. it would 'boost' the economy for what .. a week?

Nice idea. But it won't work.

Well, I've got an idea... Not sure how realistic.


Using the stimulus payment to go Bankrupt??

reply to post by groingrinder


You are right. Those of us living "under the radar", no verifiable income, are not entitled to this... As well as those living with family, and unable to find work. It just sucks.

It's a MAJOR DUD ! It may put a little money back into the economy for a couple weeks, but that's about it, then we'll be right back where we are now because they have no other plan to go along with it. Maybe if they would do something to lower gas, food, and shelter prices we'd all have a little bit more money to spend all the time, then the economy would pick up. Don't get me wrong i'm happy to take back my own money that the goverment stole from me in the first place (income tax is illegal)i mean that is what you call it when someone forcefully takes your money without your consent, and since i don't remember giving it to them of my own free will then they stole it. I still won't get it all back, btw as i read it people that had zero tax liability won't receive the check. And the people that let themselves be tricked into filing this year to receive those checks, well i wish them luck because all that is is a way for them to find more people to audit, and that hope of extra money is going to turn into a debt that they owe for years of nonpayment of taxes along with the interest and penalties that will be charged. I seriously doubt that i'll help the economy out at all with $600. if i get that much, since i recently lost my job most of mine's goin on food. I'm gonna make damn sure that i have food to eat before i use it to pay the banks. What can you really buy here anymore that will stimulate our economy anyway. Buy gas? Unless you know for a fact that the station you go to doesn't import thier gas the money's not goin here. Is there even anything left to buy in this country that is actually made here, how can we stimulate the economy if nothings made here anymore. Good topic i flagged it, but i don't know how the stars work.

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You are right about them using this to find people who sincerely need the help, to find people to audit and screw over. I think someone on the first page said much the same, with the conspiracy stuff.

But then, why don't they let people with less than $3k reported, claim? That might really bring some good results of people to put through hell..

With the way crime is exploding here in Jackson, Mississippi with daily murders and with bank robberies across the state nearly everyday, I invested the $600 into a ADT home security system. Been broken into twice since August 2006 by the usual suspect you see on the TV show COPS. Stupid punks high on dope and need my weed trimmer and new hand drill to sell to go buy more dope. When the economy collapses to the ground like a broken merry-go-round, I'll be a little bit better prepared for the increasing crime wave I see building now.

I don't know about you guys, but I'm preparing for a time portrayed in the Charleton Heston movie Omega Man with a little Jeremiah Johnson thrown in, so I can eat the lawn while others starve because they don't know day lillies (edible) from irises (poisonous).

Bush wants us to go out & buy an HDTV, a new fridge, may a computer or some long-wanted toys & what not. Me & the wife? We are using it to catch up on bills (like many of my friends as well), namely credit card & school stuff for our young daughter. Oh, and daycare. Thanks Bush!

This wont help the economy at all. Just here in Minnesota, utility companies are shutting off electric / gas to 450 people a DAY on average. If those people ever want to get that back, they will have to pay what they owe, plus a deposit.

Also, a grocery retailer here is having a promotion - bring you check to them in exchange for a grocery gift card, and they will give you $30 extra for every $300. The catch, from what I can tell, is you have to bring in the FULL AMOUNT of your check, or if you have direct deposit, show them the reciept. The full amount will be put on a gift card for future use. To me, that sounds like a scam in ways...

DUD.

Is it possible to opt out of it? Kinda eerie to be getting a forced handout. What if I marker "Refused, return to sender" on the envelope and send it back?

Ah well. If there's no way out, I'll just use it to pay my taxes.

Dud-This is just pandering on a grand scale these checks are the modern version of the Roman Emperor throwing coins out in the streets.

Has any politician dared to ask for the money back, say as a campaign contribution?

I wonder what kind of "Spend it HERE!" melee is about to unfold...

Well, I think this is a bit of a dud. But as a side note, my grandchildren will now be able to pay off the debt on this rebate that I will take to install a new bathtub and shower head, faucets, and I new three sided walled insert that slips over the tub. I guess it's only fair because they are going to be cleaning themselves in the tub for years to come.

Originally posted by Solarskye
I to think it's a deal and I need the extra money. ( extra money )? I didn't think there was such a thing as extra money.

But I will do my part and spend the money to help our economy. But I will also help myself too. I need more garden plants to fill my garden up. I'm gonna fill my tank full of gas and the two five gallon gas cans I have. I'm also gonna buy some groceries to fill the cabinets and refrigerator with. Hey, it's money I wouldn't of had so why not spend it wise. Everything I buy will be helpful to me and my family. No games, no new TV or movies etc,...
Just good old food, garden and fuel to help us along.

That's the best idea I've heard yet

Unfortunately putting 60 bucks a day in the gas tank will keep me from doing those things.

What's the point, they just printed the money out of thin air anyhow as they do with everything else. The current banking system is the problem here, we don't need anymore money in circulation with the current devaluation of our currency as it is. What we need to do is get rid of the Federal Reserve System that is clearly detrimental to our country and every other country with a similar system. We are slowly being suffocated financially. Serious reform of the banking system would be your stimulus package.

[edit on 4/26/2008 by ludaChris]

I watched the address on tv and I even went back for the text. From what I can tell that was the last sinister loosely worded speech I will ever have to hear from that man in this lifetime, cause next time he is not going to seek anyones approval.

Bush spoke about having a "Surplus in 2012." WTF does that mean?!? What are the American people going to have a surplus of?

I also enjoyed the way that some times both halves of the room would clap and other times only the GOP clapped as others looked around at each other in confusion.

It was like he was pulling the final strings to send our country into panic mode and some people are excited about a lousy $600 dollar check? Just wait until they go to the bank to cash it and the bank doesn't honor it.

Good bye de-mock-r-us-e!

People will use this money and spend more to get big ticket items like cars and such. This will help the economy in more ways than one in my opinion. Yes were basically printing up money, but this will cause additional money already in the pool to start flowing. Think of it as a jump start.

After reading this, I'm waiting on it.


Either I getting a plane ticket out of the country, using it for rent, land, or a gun.

Most likely a gun.

reply to post by yeahright


It is a rebate, and we will not be required to pay it back . For all the info you need on this, including a calculator that will tell you how much you are eligible for , and a schedule of when you will recieve your check, go to www.irs.gov

I have already planned to use mine to pay back money borrowed that I have needed to meet our household and gas needs. My dad used to call it borrowing from Peter to pay Paul.