The Lesser of Two Evils

Disclaimer: I'm a theist.

Lets just say you have just hypothetically experienced the very nasty choice making decision of the lesser of two evils and you have chosen the morally correct outcome (ie killing 1 person to save many). How do you see your GODs judgment of you when you face them on judgment day? Will they condemn you to hell for willful murder or will they do something else. How will they judge you and why will they judge you like that?

Personal Disclosure: My GODDESS will consume me regardless of my moral standing in life because she is hungry and desires to feast upon me when I am plump and ripe for the picking.

Ok this doesn't make sense but I'll answer... or atleast try too..

God knows our hearts and he will judge according to our wills and desires and what's in our hearts.. It's that simple and it will be just...

peace.

Simple. God does not judge. He loves you, therefore by the basis of motives we could not please him. You cannot gain salvation by the ends justifying the means.

Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the Abrahamic faiths.

JesusisTruth, you say that my O.P. does not make sense and yet you don't say where or how so how can I clear that up except to say maybe reread it and tell me if the problem is grammatical, semantic or logical in nature.

You then say and I quote "God knows our hearts and he will judge according to our wills and desires and what's in our hearts.. It's that simple and it will be just..." and so I ask you what would be in your will,desires and heart after you have allowed 1 person to die to save many? How will your GOD judge according to that? What do you think the outcome would be?

Personal Disclosure: I'm sorry to you and anybody else who is having trouble making sense of my O.P. I'll try be clearer next time.

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Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the Abrahamic faiths.

Personal Disclosure: I like your non judgemental GOD! Does this mean everybody automatically gets salvation according to your GODS non judgement?

No Ben he does judge but only once at the end... If a judge on earth let everybody get away with everything then what kind of justice would that be?

Can God let robbers into heaven and people who hate his guts??

no.. it is impossible..

but this does not change the fact that Gods love is unconditional, but he must judge evil and seperate it in the kingdom because if he allows evil in his house, the property will be destroyed...

a literal 12 year old can understand this.. I hope you souls do too.

Omega Logos you have great sincerity and you will go far and you must listen to me, I don't undertstand your question but I will try and answer...

God coming to earth dying for many means he died for our sins... and to restore our souls to sanctifying grace which is pure love..

and the fact he told us to love our enemies, this is true love. Think about it, how many times when you were younger did you love your bullies at school? Or your enemies?

because we don't have that sanctifying love in us, but God places it in us.. Before I knew God I didn't (not a chance) love my enemies, man I hated my enemies..

NOW, I am different, yet not I alone but Gods grace in me loving people how God does, (unconditionally)


It's grace, and this is what he came to die for..

You don't see grace, but you can feal it within your soul, it's real and he literally dwells within your heart...

Those teachings are perfect, his are... I cannot deny it..

I grew up throwing pencils and yelling at my mother when I was a young teen, I was bad, went to 3 different alternative schools, dropped out of school in the 9th grade....

This turn around in me is grace, not I alone but God... Gods grace...

Now people who run on pride think everything comes from themselves and they decieve themselves and they run on their selflove, but as for me God gave me humility to see these things and study the things of the spirit and I know all comes from God..


peace.





[edit on 29-4-2008 by JesusisTruth]

Originally posted by OmegaLogos
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Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the Abrahamic faiths.

Personal Disclosure: I like your non judgemental GOD!

Does this mean everybody automatically gets salvation according to your GODS non judgement?

Yes, all enter the New Heaven on Earth, yet the only judgment are the ones we have created for ourselves. In other words, if you say God hates homosexuals, and then they enter the Kingdom of Heaven and you will see them there, then your judgment is upon you. You will have to eternally deal with that.

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Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the abrahamic faiths. I have minor scriptural or bible scholar skills.

So I think what you are trying to tell me is because GOD himself was in this position (ie allowing his son to die to save the rest of us) that he would treat us as he treats himself and he would consider the mitigating circumstances and not punish us for making the same choice because GOD doesn't punish GOD! Am I correct in this?

Personal Disclosure: Personally I would hope it is correct if YHVH/GOD truely does exist, otherwise what does that say about his morality and ability to judge justly?

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Disclaimer: I'm a theist but not of the abrahamic faiths. I have minor scriptural or bible scholar skills.

My mind groans with the possibility of having to deal with all my judgemental POV's simultaneously, some of them diametrically opposed! So do you think thats how it will be or will we just have to suffer the most recent judgemental thoughts and feelings that we posses upon arrival in heaven?

Personal Disclosure: Again I say I really like the way you see this particular subject ben91069.

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