Will YOU accept the chip?

When the initial propaganda comes out,

chip is cool, everyone has it, your children won't get lost, no more credit card hassle, HUGE discounts, get the chip from your local retailer TODAY!

will you fall for it?




When NOT having a chip becomes VERY unpopular, but you can still buy, sell, and have a job, will you take the chip?




When you CAN'T buy or sell, will you take it?





Also, the "martial law is coming!" stereotype is wrong. They will get a foothold in our lives (chip, mind control, 2nd amendment GONE) before the people will realize they're slaves.



Anyway, when will YOU take the chip?

When pigs fly.

*purchases a hunting shotgun, watches the sky*

I would seriously die before I let them tag me like i'm some kind of animal. They do not own us let them know that!!!

I will, simply because I know there are people I love who won't. My son is one of them. He's already doing what he can to live off the grid.

If they need food and can't get it because they have no chip, I'll buy it for them. If they need medicine and can't get it, I'll figure out a way how and if I need to be chipped to do that, so be it.

If there are to be members and communities who live without it, they will have to have insiders who are chipped and are willing to work the system on their behalf.

Some folks call it the mark of the beast or against God, I don't care. If I have to spend an eternity in torture to help those I love right now, I will. I'll do so gladly.

The needs of the many out weigh the needs of the one.

A decode:

'Defined as that no (every) man' ('I') might buy or (turned) sell, save (especially) he (the devil) that had ["the"] mark (by penmenship by person), or (turned) ["the"] name (which?) of ["the"] beast, or (turned) ["the"] number of his name.

"of" is in bold because the angels of God is what we wear so name of the beast is somone else who has on the beast's wear. The beast put it on one of God.

The number is "captured/captioned" of his name. What's the number? It's warned in "2" pac.

Then there is this:

18Here is wisdom. Let him that ha close the host under close standing count ["the"] number of ["the"] beast: for it is '["the"]' ('it') number of a (then) man; defined as his number is 'Six' ('number') hundred three (re-enforced) 'close score' defined as six (re-enforced).

The count is 4 places: 100 000 defined as 6 so it's 100 6.

The count is 2 places in detail: 1+0+0 = 1 the 000 is defined as 6 so that leaves 1 6

What's in common in 4 is 2 twice. Concerning till the end of time. "time" has 4 letters to spell it out. It's literal or metaphoric or as or likened all in one.

There were 4 angels. There are 2 Beings. One of the Beings has been a wicked hand to the 4 angels. 1 of the 4 angels did 4 things. 1 of the 4 things is in the correct hands, thus leaving the 3 left in incorrect hands that are looking brightly noticable. Thus the 3 look as 1 in operation altogether.

Haha, no one should understand this. What may have happened.

The single correct hand is onto something or somebody.

If I sell the devil off he will be bought tell to tell wise and witness to wintess wise. When you sell you pitch a line as a pro salesman to get ppl to buy what was bought previously by you put at a then risen price. That means there is more to gain in it for the salesman. The gain doesnt have to be money unless you look at money metaphorically to apply as M.O.B.

Money can be anything seen as of high value.

By the way, one more letter in/to "time" would be an "e" certainly which would make for a "tie me" since there is "me" in "time". Runnin' on E! E is for Elias. "I know the law hate me dearly, comming for me. We thugged out. Outlaws, etc., runnin on E!" Eli (My God) as (as). My God is the foe (the devil spead out body wise). Tie me to? What would release them from time of a worse case scenario hanging above them.

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never will take it, I was raised in the woods and thats all I need to survive.

I'd starve before I took it.

reply to post by mrwupy


You MUST NOT take it! There won't be any turning back!

Rev 14:9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive [his] mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Rev 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Rev 14:11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Referring to my 1st post, in which I described HOW the chip will be implemented,

When it is "cool" to get chipped, I will NOT get chipped.


When it is "very unpopular" NOT to be chipped, I WILL NOT BE CHIPPED!



But how, HOW can someone living in the suburbs survive without being able to "buy or sell"?



And WILL it even get to that, will so many people resisting the chip?

The Bible says they will be beheaded.

A pastor I used to know had a friend that worked at a package warehouse. He said they had a government package.
When no one came to pick it up after a while they opened it and he said it was a new type of guillotine.

I feel sorry for the ones who take the chip. I am sure I will feel sorry for those who don't as well. We will be looked down upon and ridiculed.

WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO IT THE GOVERNMENT WILL MAKE THE CHIP LOOK SO GOOD AND DESIRABLE THAT PEOPLE WILL BE BEGGING FOR IT. ALOT OF PEOPLE THINK THE GOVERNMENT WILL PUSH IT ON US, I THINK THE UNINFORMED PERCENT OF THE POPULATION (MOSTLY EVERYONE) WILL ASK FOR A BETTER WAY TO PROTECT THEIR FAMILIES, FINANCES, AND IDENTITY. IN MY CITY THEY'RE ALREADY DESENCITIZING US BY ONLY ALLOWING THE KIDS WITH SCANNED FINGERPRINTS ABLE TO GET LUNCH. TAKE THIS FORUM FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE ALL THE CONSPIRACY THEORISTS, WHEN IN REALITY WE'RE THE MOST INFORMED, UNMANIPULATED GROUP OF THEM ALL. THANKS FOR READING

No way would I ever give my government that much reign over my life and dealings. I will live off bark and bugs first!

Okay, so how many of you have credit cards? Loyalty cards? E-bucks? Pre-paid electricity card? These are all part of the "chipping" drive. I have none of these and refuse to have any. I think that they have tried to program us all into using plastic cards for everything (because of the great special offers or discounts given) and eventually we will all be sitting with so many plastic cards that we will wish for "just one card to cover everything" and then they will offer us the "simple solution" - get a chip and all your problems will be solved. You no longer have to carry all those darn plastic cards or cash which can be ripped off/stolen as you can just have the money taken off your bank account automatically by walking past a scanner. You will no longer have to worry about being robbed (the chip will enable you to pay for whatever you need or want), you will no longer have to worry about your children getting abducted (the chip will enable parents to trace their children wherever they are) and you will no longer have to worry about carrying a drivers licence and ID document (the chip will take care of that too). Just you watch, the majority of people will be fighting to get it.

I have none of these and refuse to have any. I think that they have tried to program us all into using plastic cards for everything (because of the great special offers or discounts given) and eventually we will all be sitting with so many plastic cards that we will wish for "just one card to cover everything" and then they will offer us the "simple solution" - get a chip and all your problems will be solved.
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It's not part of a program, it's what most people demand. As technology gets better, we can consolidate all of that information on one secure card, or chip. You're confusing something planned with a natural evolution.

Barter -> Rocks/Shells -> Stones -> Spices -> Coins -> Paper -> Checks -> ATM -> Credit -> Debit -> ATM+Credit+Debit -> Self-check out -> RealID -> RealID + ATM/Debit + Credit -> Completely paperless -> Biometric -> Chip -> ENSLAVEMENT OF THE ENTIRE HUMAN RACE! :lol

Test: Which does not follow the pattern?

If you are TRULY scared of the chip, then God has left a place on Earth that still uses 500 pound stones with a hole in the middle that are rolled from place to place. It's called Yap Island, located somewhere in the pacific. If you don't move there you will be hunted and placed in concentration camps to do slave labor for the rest of us. We won't have to work anymore.

Have fun eating dirt and bugs.

Goodness! Seems someone already has a "chip" on their shoulder!

This is not a one line post.

reply to post by mrwupy


I truly appreciate your spirit, and the logic from where you come from is sound proof.

However, let me offer an alternative scenario:
What if getting chipped then led to you becoming and informant on those not chipped?
Can your son trust you?

Let me explain.

It has always made me ponder why getting the "mark of the beast", in revelations, was so bad. Why was it that every 'sin', as it were, is forgiven - but getting this 'mark' led to eternal damnation?

Again, a lot of this is obviously symbolism and allegories.
We need to take a look at how or what the 'mark' would be.

As of now, everyone seems to be of some consensus that it is to be a chip in your body somewhere, likely hand or head, that you will have to have in order to buy or sell. -Ironically we already cant buy and sell in some countries, except that which Monsanto sells us...and no chip required, they bought out the seed suppliers. - but that is another part of the whole big puzzle.

I have watched the documentary 2050, (I believe M. Kaku is in it), its a nice drama documentary of what technology will be like then. It covers a wide range of topics, including 'printing' a heart.

Transhumanism, futurist, call it what you will - but I like the potential in it all.
Again, technology is a gift and a tool, neither good nor bad, but only what those, (whose hands its in) make it out to be.

So my point is the idea of being chipped is in and of itself not bad, but the question is who is doing the chipping and what is their motivation.

Also, lets explore this some more.
As we begin to alter ourselves to 'evolve' from humans, so to speak, to "human 2.0" (as is the name of a 'futurist' documentary as well), what does this mean and imply?

How will the nano technology, and all this technology work together? We will become like cyborgs...(anyone thinking darth vadar right now?)

So, in effect is their potential for this to change our personality?
If we can send a team of nano bots in our bodies to heal it, can we send it to the brain to 're-wire' it? - We are nothing really more than a complex computer. - go past the words and look where they are pointing, try not to get bogged with semantics.

If this is the case, then it would make sense why those in Revelations never changed...or never had hope once they were marked...they DID NOT want to change any longer. Their will was taken, or rather 'manipulated' for the 'common good'.

So, if we are slowly being adapted and changed - from our Monsanto diets, to the introduction of technology in our bodies...then this may be the case.

And if they chip someone, and use the technology for 'control' (well, we are already well controlled by the media, I suppose this would 'cement it'), then you would have no other desire than to make 'big brother happy'...(Orwells 1984 popped in my mind as I wrote this...especially the ending.)

Therefore, they would count on people to get chipped for the better good of their loved ones and then it would not matter anymore.

Now this is only one scenario. I am not saying this is how it is. I do say that this makes for the most logical case when looking at Revelations, and especially if you take it to be real. Otherwise nothing else makes sense.

If there is no threat of control of will...which is already achieved through our education systems, politics, movies/entertainment, etc., then what is the problem with being chipped?

Again, the technology, in and of itself is not bad.
Hey make me Human 3.0.
Seriously though, not sure that those coming out with the technology I would trust, however. (As a side note for a laugh, imagine microsoft behind it...our brains would have to be rebooted constantly. This gives a whole new outlook on the "Im a mac" "Im a PC" ads... )

Whatever you choose, do it in peace, and you will be fine.

Peace

dAlen

Originally posted by Clearskies
When no one came to pick it up after a while they opened it and he said it was a new type of guillotine.

You know, back when all the be-headings were happening I was wondering if they were trying to condition us to this 'new' type of execution. Wasnt sure where they were coming at with it exactly. (i.e. instead of a mostly 'christian west' its a mostly 'islamic west')

Again, the people behind extremism in religion are all the same, Christian or muslim.

Peace

dAlen

reply to post by mrwupy
I understand your reasoning, it is very commendable and might i add that you are a very loving parent to do that to help your family. However i don't believe that your planned course of action will truely help him, and may in fact endanger him. I seriously doubt that these people that would implant chips into us will not be keeping track of the food and medicines that implanted people buy. I doubt that they will allow you to purchase medicine unless they deem that you indeed need it, and then only allow you the amount that they feel is needed for yourself. If it is made illegal for "nonchipped" persons to buy food or meds, they will indeed be keeping track of the food and medicines that "chipped" people buy. When they notice that you are buying to much they will track you at all times and u will then lead them straight to the son that you are trying to save, then the freedoms that you will have given up to save your son will have been in vain, and your plight to help him may end up being the thing that hurts him the most.They're probably going to limit what you can buy right from the start anyway.

reply to post by 2DieIsGain
Then i truely hope that people are not allowing thier children to recieve lunches where you're located. No way i would allow my children's fingerprints to be scanned to recieve lunch. That's also thier way to identify early on the people that would give the least resistance to being implanted.

I am not a religious zealot. I do believe that the only right path is faith and belief in god. I do believe a chip of some kind is the mark of the beast. I don't know weither getting the chip will guarantee a trip to hell but if you believe, you should be compelled not to take it.

You can trust there will be an underground. There will be ways to eat, ways to get the things you need. Many nations have and do live with oppression and control of food. The majority find a way to survive. Deny the chip is what I say. Let them come and kill me, I don't fear death or the power of the devil because of the eternity that awaits god's children.

Everyone will be tempted and only the ones who believe will be able to resist the mark. Only those who trust in the one true god. That's my opinion on the whole thing. I'll move to montana and hunt deer. mmmmm, venison burgers, mmmmmm.