Iran has Nukes...

It doesnt matter what evidence I or anyone else gives an anti-American,they will always be right in their eyes.

So there is no point to even discussing anything with them.

reply to post by jkrog08


I'm not anti-american, I'm anti-bush&co

And against war-mongerers in general.

If you can't back things up, then what's the point of debate or discussion?

An opinion is worth little without evidence to show what it is based on...

reply to post by budski



The Russians were trying to "occupy" Afghanistan. We liberated a UN sanctioned country that was starving and needed medical supplies. That said country (Saddam, Iraq) was in violation of said sanctions and had previously invaded Kuwait to "take it over".....Saddam also gassed 180,000 Kurds in a mass genocide. We are THERE to SUPPORT a fragile democracy. What part of all of this don't you Anti Americans understand? Iran has a fanatical state run by Religious fanatics bent on destroying the only DEMOCRACY in the middle east via Proxies. The US is damned if we do, Damned if we dont. Look at the history and the facts are allways the same. The US is allways trying to help support freedom so maybe, just maybe someday......The world may be more peaceful if the bad guys are gone.

reply to post by jasonhb


Is that what they told you?

ok

no worries, if you want to believe in that.

A title as: Iran has Nukes...

Is stating beyond doubt that Iran Has (no doubt there) nukes

That is some big story to unveil. But the OP is not unveiling, the OP is mere believing and thus not to be taken seriously as a factor.

If the Title of the OP’s thread sounded something like: I believe Iran has nukes. There could be speculation and believing all you wanted. But when you state something as a fact, prove it! And if you can’t prove it, buzz of.

I am al for freedom of religion but when it comes to preaching I tend to get bored with it very quickly.

I agree with the "so what?" posts.

Yes, Iran's leaders are somewhat crazy, but I bet they know that doing anything with those weapons against another nation is just suicidal.

IMHO they simply want these weapons as a deterrent against invasion. They know they've got resources that are wanted by other nations, so they want to have a huge "back of!" signal.

reply to post by jasonhb


Its not so much about religion as it is about progress.

jasonhb : Holy jesus! You're so wrong, I don't know where to begin...

Seriously? The US is SAVING IRAQ? That's what you're saying? Good god, learn history!

Something there doesn't make sense. For one, Russia and China are close allies, for another, Russia is providing more assistance to Iran than China currently, in regards to their nuclear program.

Originally posted by jasonhb
reply to post by budski

 

The Russians were trying to "occupy" Afghanistan. We liberated a UN sanctioned country that was starving and needed medical supplies. That said country (Saddam, Iraq) was in violation of said sanctions and had previously invaded Kuwait to "take it over".....Saddam also gassed 180,000 Kurds in a mass genocide. We are THERE to SUPPORT a fragile democracy. What part of all of this don't you Anti Americans understand? Iran has a fanatical state run by Religious fanatics bent on destroying the only DEMOCRACY in the middle east via Proxies. The US is damned if we do, Damned if we dont. Look at the history and the facts are allways the same. The US is allways trying to help support freedom so maybe, just maybe someday......The world may be more peaceful if the bad guys are gone.

Learn your history from all sources not using one, that makes it biased. The way you portrayed history was only partialy correct, there is much much more you need to add.

Chinese engineers have been working with Iranian engineers in building up the Iranian Nuclear program. It is a fact.

What does it mean? Oh, nothing much, just more nukes in the world to go off somewhere.

the United States only atack countries without nukes, If they don t attack Iran, than Iran has nukes... thats the reason some countries want to have nukes for protection against the USA

The imbalance of power in the middle east was expertly crafted by the United States and its Western Allies and has thwarted Russian and Chinese expansion. Iran was lost after the Shah was deposed and the new DMZ became Saudi Arabia. The Saudi Family and Israel wanted a buffer so we deposed Saddam and now Iraq is the DMZ.

The entire middle east has a long standing feud with the creation of Israel and has been waging a multi front proxy war through Lebanon, Syria, and what's left of Palestine. This type of warfare has completely nixed Israel's attempts at expansion, but has had little to no effect on the balance of power in the middle east.

When Iran publicly announces it's nuclear capability (and it will) the entire middle east will demand the same and the region will become a nuclear rich zone and that power shift will allow the Arabs to force Israel into a single state. The single state solution will enable the Arab majority to reclaim the land and a new Arab Israel (Palestine) will emerge.

The Russians and Chinese know this very well so the West is trying to counter this reality by deploying missile defense in the Med, Czech Republic and Poland.

Originally posted by jasonhb
reply to post by budski

 

The Russians were trying to "occupy" Afghanistan. We liberated a UN sanctioned country that was starving and needed medical supplies. That said country (Saddam, Iraq) was in violation of said sanctions and had previously invaded Kuwait to "take it over".....Saddam also gassed 180,000 Kurds in a mass genocide. We are THERE to SUPPORT a fragile democracy. What part of all of this don't you Anti Americans understand? Iran has a fanatical state run by Religious fanatics bent on destroying the only DEMOCRACY in the middle east via Proxies. The US is damned if we do, Damned if we dont. Look at the history and the facts are allways the same. The US is allways trying to help support freedom so maybe, just maybe someday......The world may be more peaceful if the bad guys are gone.

jason..i honestly suggest you start to do a bit more research...

start by watching this guy:

www.youtube.com...

...and then just keep getting deeper and deeper into americas filthy history..

one more thing....america is not a democracy....sorry to disappoint you...

Lol, the entire OP reads like a theory.

This is supposed to be news? There wasn't a single piece of evidence in there, just more rhetoric on what someone thinks they might be up to.

Wonderful. Just wonderful.
Yeah, lets make crazy accusations and get dragged into yet another pointless war. That's sane. Yay for more Americans dying for nothing.


I've heard too many people claim it's "anti-american" to want peace.

I say, it's anti-american to want your troops to die over a rumor.

But, some people just can't get enough of dead soldiers coming home in caskets can they? It's like they drool at the mouth when thinking of American soldiers dying in some other country.

And you wanting them to come home safely, is viewed as "anti-american"?

Yeah... that's sane.

[edit on 22-12-2008 by johnsky]