Take vitaminepills and Die!! (Dutch media reports)

I think we are being prepared for the Codex Alimentarius already.

the next page is in Dutch but this is what is said in summary:


Take a vitamin pill and die!

Whereas many people think that taking vitamin pills makes healthier, proves to be opposed truth, says Health Specialist Patricia Schutte of the Feeding Centre in The Hague in the Dutch Daily.

The expert tells that feeding supplements with for example vitame A and E can cause all kinds of types cancer. Moreover a representative research of scientists linked to the university of Copenhagen shows that vitamins accelerate death. Why that this way is, the research workers cannot say.
But supposedly the feeding supplements interfere the body household too much.

[if so, sorry for poor translation..]


here is the link to the Dutch (free) newspaper:

Spitsnieuws

www.abovetopsecret.com...

I suppose that could be the case...but I haven't found that to be the case in my experience. I have taken vitamins every day for eighteen years. I take a multi, a few calcium, a couple of E's, and a few C's. There is no "snake oil" among these. When I skip the multivitamin I notice the lack of energy. I gave up on discrete vitamn A gels years ago as I noticed a subtle decay in the fucntioning of my mind (!) that ceased once I stopped taking them. Also I go easy on the B complex.

Wow. The title is a little bit harsh. Look, vitamins are not magic. These are different molecules that body needs for different functions. If there are not enough of these - the functions this vitamin is responsible for fail. Since our body "knows" these molecules there are special pathways of production interaction and "neutralization" of them - thus in normal concentrations they are by far less problematic then foreign substances, such as medications.
However if they are taken in excessive amounts body cannot cope with them any better then with foreign medications because there simply more molecules of vitamin then there are of their "targets" and vitamins are dealt with the same general system that deals with all foreign chemicals.
And since vitamins are biologically active - which means they interact with our body and our body responds - if it response in excess it is also bad.
I definitely disagree that vitamins kill as long as they are not taken in much much higher then normal concentration. But there are people who make "vitamins" sound like a magical solution and the more - the better.

Originally posted by eduardz

I think we are being prepared for the Codex Alimentarius already.

I think you are right.
Unfortunately, many people - I hesitate to say most, but that is probably correct - do not even know what the CA is, let alone doubt the intentions of the people who are behind it.

Just today, I happened to notice the headline of an article, saying "Taking vitamins may increase the risk for breast cancer"... And the link appeared on a website with millions of daily visitors, most of whom still believe in the good intentions of the "public health" services.

I did not read it.
I have been studying (seriously studying) the impact of supplements for many years. And I know for a fact that a megadose of B-complex (NOT individual forms of vitamin B, they are only effective in conjunction), for example, can do wonders for elderly people whose legs ache and who find it difficult to even walk - not to mention for the hair and the nervous system in general.

I am no conspiracy theorist, but I've had my eyes on the C.A. - and those dictating it (the pharmaceutical industry) - for many years now, ever since Dr. Matthias Rath first spoke out against the medical establishment and the C. A. (Is he still around? Does anyone here know about him...?)

Based on what I see here - let's not even mention other sites - it's clear that their strategy is to induce doubt. That should suffice for people to let their freedom of choice (in supplementation) be gradually taken away from them.
And the likes of Dr. Rath, Linus Pauling, Helga Budwig will once again be ridiculed and demonised with impunity.








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I gave up on discrete vitamn A gels years ago as I noticed a subtle decay in the fucntioning of my mind (!) that ceased once I stopped taking them. Also I go easy on the B complex.

I doubt the vitamin A was the cause of it, but I am certain that the lack of the B-complex has something to do with it. "Going easy" on it may not be a good idea.

Have you tried Acetyl L-Carnitine & Alpha Lipoic Acid?
I think you might like it. Everyone so far did.

(And I am not at all afraid of anyone here suing me. By all means: go ahead, sue me, if it makes you feel better. )





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Originally posted by ZeroKnowledge
Wow. The title is a little bit harsh. Look, vitamins are not magic. These are different molecules that body needs for different functions. If there are not enough of these - the functions this vitamin is responsible for fail. Since our body "knows" these molecules there are special pathways of production interaction and "neutralization" of them - thus in normal concentrations they are by far less problematic then foreign substances, such as medications.
However if they are taken in excessive amounts body cannot cope with them any better then with foreign medications because there simply more molecules of vitamin then there are of their "targets" and vitamins are dealt with the same general system that deals with all foreign chemicals.
And since vitamins are biologically active - which means they interact with our body and our body responds - if it response in excess it is also bad.
I definitely disagree that vitamins kill as long as they are not taken in much much higher then normal concentration. But there are people who make "vitamins" sound like a magical solution and the more - the better.

Good post!

Besides, most of the vitamin manufacturers around the world are owned by multinational companies, and many more are owned by pharmaceutical corporations. These guys have NO interest in promoting health - their money is made from you getting sick.

Also, finding the 'genuine' vitamins that are absorbable is getting difficult. It also means you are excreting very expensive urine.

You should be getting all your vitamins and minerals from the food you eat. The human body is NOT designed to cope with vitamins in the form of tablets on a daily basis. Vitamins should be used to bring a deficient body back up to where it should be - not as a daily supplement.

peace

Duncan

They are trying to push their Codex Almintarius agenda by telling people that vitamins are bad. the WTO will either put a ban on all vitamins or regulate their uses. Too much of anything can be bad. Smoking...it causes more cancer then vitamins and it is stil llegal, refined sugar, coffee and etc. Taking too much of some vitamins can be dangerous, but using it in moderation would be good.

Moderation!

The human body is NOT designed to cope with vitamins in the form of tablets on a daily basis.

It is certainly much LESS designed to cope with the chemical compounds that medical practitioners push as the primary - or even the only - "cure" for diseases, even though they (coupled with other traditional treatments and with neglect or misdiagnosing, pure and simple) have been shown to kill hundreds of thousands of patients every year.
(In fact, the medical establishment is one of the leading causes of death, according to the relevant Harvard and other studies on iatrogenic death.)

And yet, they keep pushing them...


Peace right back at you.



[edit on 18-5-2008 by Vanitas]

Originally posted by Vanitas

The human body is NOT designed to cope with vitamins in the form of tablets on a daily basis.

It is certainly much LESS designed to cope with the chemical compounds that medical practitioners push as the primary - or even the only - "cure" for diseases, even though they (coupled with other traditional treatments and with neglect or misdiagnosing, pure and simple) have been shown to kill hundreds of thousands of patients every year.
(In fact, the medical establishment is one of the leading causes of death, according to the relevant Harvard and other studies on iatrogenic death.)

And yet, they keep pushing them...

Peace right back at you.

[edit on 18-5-2008 by Vanitas]

I totally agree with you, and I certainly never meant to imply that modern medicine's chemicals are better in any way. In fact, the medical system is the single biggest cause of death in the USA - not heart attacks, road deaths, murders etc.

The estimated number of deaths from iatrogenisis in the USA is 2,146.85 people PER DAY!!! These are deaths from medical mistakes, wrong surgery, getting more disease while in care (ie strep, staph infections), wrong pills, bad combination of pills, too many pills - all of these are unnecessary and preventable deaths.

Check out the paper at: www.healthe-livingnews.com...

Over two thousand people per day, every day - when will people wake up you ask?
Only when the media tell them these figures.
Why doesn't the media report these figures?
Some say conspiracy, some say the medical system is the best we got and that we shouldn't destroy faith in it by reporting such stuff.
You choose - and meanwhile by this time tomorrow another two thousand people have died.
Heck, America goes and invades other countries for less than this ...

peace

Duncan

Barring intentional or accidental contamination of vitamins the fact is that some vits are fat soluble. These vitamins accumulate in your fat cells and become toxic at high levels. Many toxins are also carcinogens (but not all). The big vitamin culprits for toxicity are vitamins D, E, A and K (deak...my mnemonic for nutrition class) while the others are water soluble (excess is flushed out in urine).
Was there mention of any of the water soluble vitamins also being bad for one's health too?

Anyone with a fully balanced diet does not need to take vitamins.
You can get everything you need from a good diet.
Convincing you to buy pills is just a confidence trick to turn a profit.
If you have excess in your body you don't need, your body will just flush them out. Total waste of money.