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Originally posted by Dulcimer
Scenario:
-Some criminal who does not obey any law, steals your registered bullets.
-Said criminal kills person using your stolen bullets.
-Police "solve" the crime because they traced the bullets back to you.
Yay!
As long as the law nabs somebody it looks like they are doing their job.
There is plenty of ways around this system.
Sad.
Originally posted by Master_Wii
reply to post by RuneSpider
I see your logic, now let me ask you this.
What's to stop a person from removing the bullet & Powder, grinding off the serial number (casing and bullet) and then re-seating the round?
A person who truly wants to commit a premeditated crime can and will do these types of things to prevent detection.
Originally posted by chise61
reply to post by lazy1981
My sentiments exactly. That's why our forefathers included in the constitution the right of the people to bear arms. Yet we all seem to be content in just sitting idlely by while they take that right away from us, so that we cannot do what our forefathers outlined for us. We've already let them take way too much! If we allow this new legislation that they're aiming for to be passed what's the next step?
Originally posted by Sovereign797
jackinthebox nailed it, as usual..
this is about tracking who's got how much of what.
The government will have a good idea of what kind of weapons you have and how much ammo you have making it easier to know who to watch, who to target in the event they try to disarm civilians and how much resistance they might meet.
Originally posted by logician magician
What's the next step? Probably some type of RFID/DNA encoding on bullets, along with required DNA matching between the munition and weapon. You know, a positive identification.
Originally posted by Realtruth
Originally posted by hybridx
OK well where to begin.....
No biggy to me, I am not doing anything wrong. If you arent doing anything wrong you shouldnt be worried either.
No biggy to you, but you must not have much experience under your belt. I was in law enforcement for many years. I have seen innocent people that had items stolen, only to go through a very painful process and costly legal process to maintain innocence.
First off people, they are not going to encode the round (lead) itself, but the casing or shell, brass which is ejected from the firearm. The lead fragments or mushrooms so identifying the numbers would be nill. Shotguns use shot small round balls, so the only thing there is the shell to encode.
How many of you would ever know that someone stole ammunition that is horded or tucked away?
Answer: You wouldn't until the ATF, FBI or local police came with a search warrant because they found you shell casings, then it's off to retain an attorney to maintain innocence starting cost $5000.00, just for the lawyer to take your case.
How about you are out shooting at the range or hunting and lose track of the shells?
Someone picks up your encoded shell reloads it and then your in a legal battle to maintain your innocence.
It's not about doing anything wrong, it's about what may happen to you if someone else does something wrong with your rounds.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
reply to post by hybridx
You cant code something that is going to be shredded when it impacts.
Which only goes to show that this is really all about some ulterior motive. Keeping an inventory on civilian firepower, not criminal firepower mind you, law-abiding citizens.
No biggy to me, I am not doing anything wrong. If you arent doing anything wrong you shouldnt be worried either.
That is really weak.
Just because I'm not doing anything wrong, does not mean I am willing to give up my rights. And this certainly is a step toward that. Why do you think they would go to all this trouble otherwise?
[edit on 4/22/0808 by jackinthebox]