Is this a real life picture?

It is a VERY real Pic...I was priviledged to be on the Air Refueling test team for the V-22. The green "Lights" around the outter edge of the rotors/props (Depends on what afircraft config you are in) is electrostatic illumination. Looks REALLLYYYY cool looking through NVG's...nothing new to that one either...Every helo I've ever seen through NVG's I've seen the static electricity just dancing on them...really great pic, though.

First, I think the picture itself is too sharp. And who would want to take a photo of the gravel upclose to the foreground? I cannot make out the 'people-like' figurines, along with the neon-colored rotors. To me, the aircraft appears to be an ordinary VTOL.

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Sometimes, reading the entire thread can be your friend!

A few members have already answered the question, it is real.

Shattered OUT...

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That my friend, is a toy/model. Not a REAL V-22.

want to know how to figure out of a picture is fake or not? ask yourself...does it look real?

i didnt even have to look at the picture to closely to realize it was fake, id say...less then 1 second and i knew it wasnt. how can people be so, dont want to say stupid, but easily fooled?

i dont know about the picture above is real but the aircraft in it is real
yes ive seen one at a distance.

www.youtube.com...

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I don't understand your logic, are you saying you think it's real or fake?

Because if you're saying its fake, then by you're plain wrong, it's real.

This thread should probably be closed to prevent more people from making fools of themselves.

Shattered OUT...

You know at first I was a little angry that people were still posting here saying it was a fake when myself and a few others went to great pains to PROVE it was a real photo....then I became frustrated that people just were not seeing the facts, which makes me wonder how foolish these people must be on other threads/ideas....then it hit me...don't close this thread...let the people come here and make utter idiots of themselves, that way I can mark them as "foes" and never waste my time on any thread they post.

So please mods don't close this thread, lets see how many ignorant people we have on ATS - and maybe we can make this a better place full of people willing to see the facts and come to sane simple conclusions.

Welcome to the honey pot thread...is the picture real or fake?

This thread cracks me up...

Good times. I agree -- let it stay open, please..

Well,
freakyclown you have sourced a picture but I'm not drinking the kool aid here.

According to you: If something is linked to on A DOD website it must be real?

Hypothetical situation: Joe Bloggs (hobbyist), such as anyone who can't tell that the picture is of a model or toy uploads the picture with an article on the V22 or even a toy or model article.

Then

Joe Bloggs (web editor) see's the picture puts it on the website because it's his job, captions it and that is what he's paid to do.


FACT: The picture showed up on Wikipedia BEFORE the website. Go and look for yourself.

Wikipedia V22 article sys 2nd Feb 2008 en.wikipedia.org...:V-22_Osprey_refueling.jpg

DOD picture says 6th Feb 2008


Your faith in denying the possibilities is disturbing young clown

I would say its some graphic from Nintendo Game Cube. This isnt by any stretch of the imagination a "real life" photo.
I'm surprised this thread lasted THIS long.



Ok I'll admit I didnt read the ENTIRE thread. I stand corrected.

[edit on 24-4-2008 by Master_Wii]

Originally posted by abovetech
Pretty sure it's CGI.

I can give you tons of CGI pictures that most people think are real.

Agreed - it's CGI. The giveaway is the fake plastic 'gleam' from the nearest rotor engine, and the absolute lack of any real depth to the 'chopper'.

J.

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I'm just curious how you managed to track the image to that site? God knows, I've tried to track back some images to a source and it can be incredibly difficult. Care to share any of your secrets?

It does look very fake and could be considered to be but I would like to...re assert my comments.

(Apparently Wiki META info says)
The photo was taken with a 10Mega Pixel Sony DSC R1 camera. 10 MP might be too much if several computer/graphic freaks can't tell the difference.

[edit on 24-4-2008 by amanbuthimself]

The question was whether or not the photo was real or fake.

I think enough members have made it conclusive... the photo is real.

I don't see anything fake about it.

EDIT: When you right click the photo and go to properties it tells you what the photo is labeled as. In this case it is "V-22 Osprey Refueling..." I simply put that into a google search and it yielded this:

Captain's Journal website

And also this(The photo in question is on the gallery navigation tool-bar to the right side):

Air-Attack.com website

It's not hard to find it. Just need some patience.

Shattered OUT...

[edit on 24-4-2008 by ShatteredSkies]

What on earth? This thread is 2 pages only. I just read through a 54 pages long thread before even concidering offering my input on the subject of that thread. It's okay to be skeptical, but in this case it would be more beneficial for the exchange of knowledge to just avoid posting, at least when you don't even bother to read through the thread. You don't really need much experience with phtography to be able to come to a conclusion very quickly about this picture.

Several people, myself included, have replied with claims based in actual experience that this picture is real. Then someone found the original source of the photo, then someone actually posted the damned EXIF at: files.abovetopsecret.com... Where you can see details confirming what I and others concluded by just looking at the picture... SLR (this particular camera is not an SLR, but it's logical to assume it based on the "quality" of the picture) camera, 10sec or more exposure, wide angel lens + a whole lot of other relevant information.

Then you also have the people who have actually seen these plans in real life, or work around them, who can confirm that this is not some toy or a computer generated plane. It's time to let it go, unless you have some brilliant evidence to share which points to a different reality than what the current conclusion is; that is is a real photograph of a real plane.

Originally posted by 30 Seconds
want to know how to figure out of a picture is fake or not? ask yourself...does it look real?

i didnt even have to look at the picture to closely to realize it was fake, id say...less then 1 second and i knew it wasnt. how can people be so, dont want to say stupid, but easily fooled?

Sometimes you really should look closer. If I read your post correctly, you just claimed that it took you less than 1 second to reach the conclusion that a real photography was indeed a fake, and then you ask yourself how people can be.."so, dont want to say stupid, but easily fooled". People are easily fooled sometimes because they, among other things, don't investigate further... A frightening amount of people posting in this thread has fallen into that exact trap.



[edit on 25-4-2008 by me_ofef_seraph]

it's clearly a Dioram

two lines

Originally posted by amanbuthimself
Well,
freakyclown you have sourced a picture but I'm not drinking the kool aid here.

According to you: If something is linked to on A DOD website it must be real?

Hypothetical situation: Joe Bloggs (hobbyist), such as anyone who can't tell that the picture is of a model or toy uploads the picture with an article on the V22 or even a toy or model article.

Then

Joe Bloggs (web editor) see's the picture puts it on the website because it's his job, captions it and that is what he's paid to do.


FACT: The picture showed up on Wikipedia BEFORE the website. Go and look for yourself.

Wikipedia V22 article sys 2nd Feb 2008 en.wikipedia.org...:V-22_Osprey_refueling.jpg

DOD picture says 6th Feb 2008


Your faith in denying the possibilities is disturbing young clown

It actually looks quite real to me.

A long shutter time when combined with the wind generated by the rotors (on the crew) - easily explains their blurriness.

There are also people in the Navy whose whole job is to take photos for PR. And I personally recall seeing that photograph on posters and/or in a couple magazines prior to 2008. And with DOD stuff - you never quite know how accurate their reported dates are.

On that note, a couple things bother me about the lighting. Now, it's quite possible there is a floodlight off-camera somewhere, and the other is the relative size of the sun. However - I've not personally been to the Middle East, and I know various atmospheric conditions can distort the appearance of the Sun. Additionally, this appears to have been taken with a wide-angle lens of some kind - and I'm not too keen on photography - not been one of my hobbies (though I've thought about looking into it when I get the chance).

Anyway - the overall picture just has a number of details that are pretty difficult to fake accurately. The crew, for one - while they are a bit blurred - their features are very much human. The reflections in the canopy are not impossible to fake - but not easy, either. Another is the blurring of the tied ends of sand-bags used to mark the LZ as they blow in the wind from the props.

While all of that is 'possible' to be faked - it's a very, very high quality fake if it is, with a very keen attention to detail. If you look closely - you can even see some slight blurring of the stars - it's only about a pixel or two migration - but something that you would notice in a genuine long-exposure, and be less likely to see in a CGI or otherwise faked scene.

There are a lot of high definition pictures out there that are pretty sharp and "look" fake.

I know what you mean, i have a car magazine with a picture af a Mazda Furai concept and i thought it was computer generated for months until i read the caption. A bit unrelated, but it is hard to tell sometimes.

whatever it is now? may have been photoshopped, but initially i think its real