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posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 08:48 PM
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Hey ALL FIGHT da POWER!!! thepowrs thatbeeeee!

Yes I am new but I dig it and well I was looking around and theres some crazy on this ATS but any way. I KNOW that Alex Jones is right. I know About the Illuminati and they plan to take down USA. Thats right.

Well Isaw that one about sallykerns woman and all the gay people are cryingbut its proof that illuminati is behuiind it all to make us week so we do not fight back.

So Igot a doc from a real PHD so no body can call BULL. Proves IT ok
here it is
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www.rense.com...

Sexual Liberation is Illuminati Subversion

By Henry Makow Ph.D. February 19, 2005
Throughout modern history Illuminati bankers have used "sexual liberation" to subvert society and establish their subtle tyranny. As Masonic revolutionary Guiseppe Mazzini said, "we corrupt in order to rule."

The Illuminati bankers need to introduce "world government" to translate their unjust monopoly over credit into total world control. jahtruth.net...

They realized that they couldn't take control until they destroyed the family. This was a central plank of the Communist Manifesto in 1848.

Every major "revolution" in modern history has increased Illuminati banker control and the sexual revolution is no exception.

The bankers have encouraged sexual dissipation using their various "progressive" fronts: liberalism, feminism, socialism and communism.

The great appeal of left wing movements has always been the promise of "free" sex (i.e. free of the restraints of love & marriage.)

How is free sex subversive?






[edit on 12-4-2008 by FightDPower]

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posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 09:12 PM
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I have to agree with much of what you say here. I have always thought that girls trying too hard to be overtly sexual are overplaying their hand.

Funny thing is that the less attention I give to girls that don't interest me, the more they try to get my attention.

For what? I'm not giving up any part of myself to a stranger. And certainly not for an experience which, quite frankly, is easier, better, and safer alone.

My girlfriend today puts almost no effort into this, but is more attractive to me for having done so.


And yes, the people who want to control this world are using every destructive influence they can dream of to try and undermine it.


The destruction of family values was planned.



posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 09:25 PM
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Thats right I feel you cause they make us weeker and weeker and nobody has guns no more and MEN aint men an womens are men hahaha
and poeple are watching TV and not looking out no more

here the link100777.com...

[edit on 12-4-2008 by FightDPower]



posted on Apr, 12 2008 @ 11:27 PM
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The Illuminati use sex to corrupt and debase. The pornography that floods our in-boxes is part of a widespread campaign to degrade us. A morally degraded people are a weak people, and a weak people are easily disinherited.


We are seeing the corruption of the traditional family in a big way. Internet porn has made it so easy to get right into your home; without the past embarrassment of going to a dirty book store. I agree that women are increasingly treated as sex objects and they are playing into it by acting and dressing the role.

In college I took a class where we discussed how America is really a "rape culture" one out three women are raped. It is directly related to the objectification and degradation of pornography and sex based advertising.

That the NWO would be behind such a cultural force is not that much of a stretch. The Bible speaks of the coming one world government. We haven't allowed homosexual marriage to become mainstream yet. But it looks like it might happen. Even though it is sold as "Freedom" ; the further we get form the Bibles standard the more freedom we actually will lose. I am not surprised that moral decay is used as a weapon in the arsenal of the NWO.



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 12:03 AM
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Misquoting Socrates


Socrates said that when he no longer had a sex drive in old age, he was "released from the jaws of a wild beast."

No, Socrates never said that.

The only knowledge we have about what Socrates said comes from the works of his disciple Plato. Socrates never wrote anything. And there is no mention anywhere in Plato of a statement like that by Socrates.

The closest we get is a famous passage right at the beginning of the Republic, in which Cephalus, the father of Socrates' friend Polemarchus, says


How well I remember the aged poet Sophocles, when in answer to the question, How does love suit with age, Sophocles, -- are you still the man you were? Peace, he replied; most gladly have I escaped the thing of which you speak; I feel as if I had escaped from a mad and furious master. His words have often occurred to my mind since, and they seem as good to me now as at the time when he uttered them. For certainly old age has a great sense of calm and freedom; when the passions relax their hold, then, as Sophocles says, we are freed from the grasp not of one mad master only, but of many.

- Plato, Republic Bk. 1, Cephalus

Socrates does not endorse this statement, but goes on to explain how Cephalus is freed from the grip of passion (by which he means all kinds of excessive desire, not just sexual) not by old age, but by his inherited wealth.

So you are wrong, I'm afraid. Not once, but three times over.

  1. The phrase in question is 'freed from a mad master', not 'from the jaws of a wild beast';
  2. The speaker to whom the words are attributed are Cephalus, not Socrates; and
  3. Socrates doesn't even agree with him.

Now, there is a passage in Plato in which Socrates uses the term 'wild beast' to describe the sexual appetite. Would you like to read it? Here it is.


At that moment, when I saw him coming in, I confess that I was quite astonished at his beauty and stature; all the world seemed to be enamoured of him; amazement and confusion reigned when he entered; and a troop of lovers followed him. That grown-up men like ourselves should have been affected in this way was not surprising, but I observed that there was the same feeling among the boys; all of them, down to the very least child, turned and looked at him, as if he had been a statue...

(Then) I thought how well Cydias understood the nature of love, when, in speaking of a fair youth, he warns some one "not to bring the fawn in the sight of the lion to be devoured by him," for I felt that I had been overcome by a sort of wild-beast appetite. But I controlled myself, and when he asked me if I knew the cure of the headache, I answered, but with an effort, that I did know.

- Plato, Charmides

Not quite the same thing, is it? Socrates is merely saying that the beautiful young man looked 'good enough to eat'. Yes, my friend, Socrates was into beautiful young men; it was the custom of the time. And in this essay Plato was talking about temperance, not abstention.

If you want to learn how Socrates really felt about sex (or at least how Plato thought he felt, and Plato had good reason to know), read the Symposium, in which he describes his love for his old boyfriend Alcibiades.

* * *


The kind of attitude you foster is lamentably common among the obsessively religious. It is a frightening and dangerous attitude. It encourages violence and hatred, especially against women.

Its origin is also depressingly obvious: it arises from hatred and fear of one's own sexual urges, which -- since in this mental state they are too disturbing to be accepted as part of oneself -- must be projected onto others. From the Pentateuch to the Inquisition it has done untold harm to humanity; it is the attitude of the Taliban.

Sex is natural and good for you. Those who embrace it without guilt or fear find themselves happy and at peace, freed from torments of frustration. Those who try to destroy find that you can push Nature out of the door with a pitchfork, as Jung liked to say, only to find her climbing back in through the window.



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 12:17 AM
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posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 03:36 AM
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Feminism: No more being a husbands slave, breeder, punching bag. Right to vote, right to education, right to birth control without his permission, right to have job and earn own money.. right to determine own life path etc.

So it's the illuminati that are responsible for all this..?

Thanks guys.


[edit on 13-4-2008 by riley]



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 03:39 AM
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Originally posted by riley
Feminism: No more being a husbands slave, breeder, punching bag. Right to vote, right to education, right to birth control without his permission, right to have job and earn own money.. right to determine own life path etc.

So it's the illuminati that are responsible for all this..?

Thanks guys.


[edit on 13-4-2008 by riley]


Well said!!!!

Ya dribbled a bibfull then bub




Mungo



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 03:47 AM
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I'm sorry to say this, as I don't think it has much to do about what you say, but are you drunk? I can't even understand what you're getting at.

You offer an article from rense (soooo informant).
Then you spout psuedo-sentences about how they are flooding our minds.

Porn doesn't degrade, IMO. It is certainly a mentality that gets adopted easily, and it desensitizes to a point, but it just makes us voyeurs. Nothing dangerous.

I think porn is great. I think it stops many young people from making back decision, but thats just my opinion.

Your thread needs revision.



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by riley
Feminism: No more being a husbands slave, breeder, punching bag. Right to vote, right to education, right to birth control without his permission, right to have job and earn own money.. right to determine own life path etc.

So it's the illuminati that are responsible for all this..?

Thanks guys.


I do know what they are saying about the women who are trying to hard to be men. And miss riley is wrong. Men should be men and women need to be takuing care of they babies. Not out acting like men. Thats one way we aint got no more good families and everyboduy is out in thestreets on drugs Becasue women dont take care of they children no more. riley you the one got me in trouble before but well dont worry no more ok. I dont think you are being fair to call gay peole handicap riley.


YOU GOT to FIGHT back stop the illuminatis



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by SantaClaus
reply to post by FightDPower
 


I'm sorry to say this, as I don't think it has much to do about what you say, but are you drunk? I can't even understand what you're getting at.

You offer an article from rense (soooo informant).
Then you spout psuedo-sentences about how they are flooding our minds.

Porn doesn't degrade, IMO. It is certainly a mentality that gets adopted easily, and it desensitizes to a point, but it just makes us voyeurs. Nothing dangerous.

I think porn is great. I think it stops many young people from making back decision, but thats just my opinion.

Your thread needs revision.


I like to drink too most beers, liquors will pickle your blood. bad for your kidneys. Ilikes some pron now then too buit only with womens. buit the problems is people,not having families so the illumatis make us a week country. we used to be strong now we lost all money to chinese peoplese I know its true. can you feel me onthat I know its true. BUT FIGHT the powers thatbe and we can make the illumnatis stop. They making us week they taken away our guns and taking allour moneys too. Women need to be women and stop being whores to stop theilluminatis.

FIGHT da powers



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 04:56 PM
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Originally posted by FightDPower
I do know what they are saying about the women who are trying to hard to be men.

I really no NOT want to be like you.. and if I wanted to be like a man I dare say you would be the furthest thing from it. Real men don't refer to women as 'whores'.
[thats presuming you aren't just an alter ego taking the piss]

riley you the one got me in trouble before but well dont worry no more ok.

..you've got a dozen 'halt' posts. that aint my fault dear.



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 05:13 PM
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now missriley I know you dontlike what he saying buthe does know what hes talking about hes not sying womens are stupidor nothing like that he nt sayiong nothin bad about womens just they need to be mamas like they sippose too. now you know itstrue that theres is whoreas all over on the treets and on the internet too dont be tellin me there aint now wonmens woring. well i trying ot toget in no more trouble. The man sent me a email said this was a good tread mr memryshock.

so FIGHT that

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They extolled "sexual liberation" because promiscuous women are less dedicated to family, and less attractive and suitable as wives and mothers. Furthermore, if sex is freely available, men have much less incentive to marry or be faithful.

Women were brainwashed to think they were being "exploited" by their family and should seek fulfillment in career and independence instead.


www.savethemales.ca...

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[edit on 13-4-2008 by GAOTU789]



posted on Apr, 13 2008 @ 06:29 PM
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FightDPower,

Are your for real? I mean your posts are not making sense, and your going out of your way to insult other members and offend them. Your opinion that women need to stop acting like 'whores' is really in bad taste. I certainly dont think my girlfriend acts like a whore because she likes voting, driving, and having freedoms.

Seriously take a look at what you are posting and reconsider a class on tact.



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by FightDPower
now missriley I know you dontlike what he saying buthe does know what hes talking about hes not sying womens are stupidor nothing like that he nt sayiong nothin bad about womens just they need to be mamas like they sippose too.

In that case go hunting and catch all your food food with your bare hands. There is no 'suppose to'. Women can have children and they still have use of their arms, legs and brains. If we were 'suppose' to just be mothers we wouldn't have those abilities.
Besides which you keep talking about 'fight da power'.. well sorry but if you're only talking about men YOU are one of the ones that needs to be faught against.

You do not wish to just fight the oppressor.. you want to be the oppressor.


now you know itstrue that theres is whoreas all over on the treets and on the internet too dont be tellin

Could you PLEASE stop using slang, use preview and maybe use spell check before posting? typos are okay but yours make your posts impossible to read.

me there aint now wonmens woring. well i trying ot toget in no more trouble.

..as I said before you have got a dozen 'halts' to your name. clearly you are able to do that all on your own.

The man sent me a email said this was a good tread mr memryshock.

I am so very happy for you..



so FIGHT that

i cut andpasted (Yes you did and we don't take plagiarism lightly here at ATS.)
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They extolled "sexual liberation" because promiscuous women are less dedicated to family, and less attractive and suitable as wives and mothers. Furthermore, if sex is freely available, men have much less incentive to marry or be faithful.

Indeed I dont think it's psychologically healthy for women to be overly promiscuous as sometimes they are only after validation.. it doesn't make them bad mothers though.


Women were brainwashed to think they were being "exploited" by their family and should seek fulfillment in career and independence instead.
www.savethemales.ca...

Women do not need to be 'brainwashed' into anything.. and being legally alloud to be raped in marriage and treated like a slave IS exploitation. There is no imagining that.. women were LEGALLY abused and enslaved by their husbands.

[edit on 14-4-2008 by riley]



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 04:51 AM
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"In that case go hunting and catch all your food food with your bare hands. There is no 'suppose to'. Women can have children and they still have use of their arms, legs and brains. If we were 'suppose' to just be mothers we wouldn't have those abilities."

Riley you is my only friend on ATS and I have to say we seemed to agree on something somewhere before I knews yous was a woman.
But nows that I know I gotta rush all up in the OPs face for dissin my only friend, wif his blanket down putting of womens
But you aint gonna catch me kuba divin for my food. Puttin all the Kuba gear on just to gets me some fish filets, uh uh no way.
Ladies aint gotta be all barefoot pregnants walkins around in the kichin. No ways I wants me a fine fat bootied girl in the foxhole rights next to me when I fightin the NWO. Fights the power ladies.


[edit on 14-4-2008 by Zealott]



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 04:59 AM
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*cough* Secret societies influence mass-media in order to psychologically weaken society. *cough*

Hench, the glorification of sex.

[edit on 14-4-2008 by Anti-Tyrant]



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 06:16 AM
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riley riley riley riley it early in the morning and I jus got up and i has nit even had me a drink yet, So what can I say to my froend riley. I dont need tocatch food riley I goes to the store ok. women need to be good wives an take care of there children why try to be men riley? you no good at be a man. why do you want to act a man? the MAN is fooling you to not be a real woman. FIGHT back be a women ! FIGHT da powers datbe riley. you donot have stobe a sex slave or a acts like a man. be a real woman like your mama was OK thats true and you no thats true.

FIGHT illuminatis be real womens!!



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 06:31 AM
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Actually it wasnt the illuminati (The Enlightened Ones) who subverted sexuality, it was the illuminatis opponents: The Abrahamic religions (which includes christianity and every variation of it).

By suppressing sexual expression (bodily: sex, spiritually: creativity) tension was built up resulting in the pendulum swining in the other extreme direction: Pornography. Whatever is suppressed on one side accumulates and swings to the other side.

In this sense extreme-pornography is the antithesis of extreme-christianity. Without christianity and its suppression and assignment of shame to the subject, there would be no extreme perversion.

Put into simple words: Keep telling a child "Dont do that!, dont do that! dont do that!" he will eventually do it...to the extreme.



posted on Apr, 14 2008 @ 07:32 AM
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Originally posted by FightDPower
riley riley riley riley it early in the morning and I jus got up and i has nit even had me a drink yet, So what can I say to my froend riley. I dont need tocatch food riley I goes to the store ok. women need to be good wives an take care of there children why try to be men riley? you no good at be a man. why do you want to act a man? the MAN is fooling you to not be a real woman. FIGHT back be a women ! FIGHT da powers datbe riley. you donot have stobe a sex slave or a acts like a man. be a real woman like your mama was OK thats true and you no thats true.

FIGHT illuminatis be real womens!!


Guy,, why don't you get off riley's neck and start acting like an adult rather then some hip hop wanna kill a cop street thug jeez.


- Con



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