Explain these photos

Originally posted by Retikx
As ive said before the damage pattern at the pentagon is entirely consistent with a low yield penetration missile. The fact that the exit hole is almost symetrical indicates a shaped pressure wave indicative of military style air burst missile strikes.

I direct your attention to my avatar, the amount of evidence in favor of a missile strike is overwhelming and those who refuse to acknowledge it are 1: Blissfully ignorant 2: suckling at the teet of the official story and protesting being weened

That is funny. That is the funnies lack of evidence cause, and you even posted the jet fuel fireball from 77 impact. Cool. There is still, after 6 years, zero evidence for a missile or bomb.

Maybe someone else has some evidence to help?

Originally posted by Muundoggie
This is for CaptObnoxious

First of all, do you see the pretty little red flags under my name? I got those for asking a question that was not on topic, and for speaking against someones theory personally.

You want to resort to playground name calling, you will be placed on ignore with the other kids.

This thread is also about the Pentagon. Not the WTC. If you think there were bombs in the WTC that were timed to go off a split second before impact, thats your prerogative. I would suggest however that you look into static electricity and the massive amount that is generated on an aircraft.

You may want to read more about this here:

www.aerospaceweb.org...

As far as the mentally challenged leader... what do i think? He misspoke. The dolt asked a blind guy to take off his glasses during a press conference. He can't remember simple quotes....BUT...hey, we are expected for him to have a hand in pulling off the largest conspiracy in the history of mankind.

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No my avatar does not show the fireball from the jet fuel, my avatar shows the undeniable resemblance between the initial explosion at the pentagon and an air burst explosive. Note the dark detonation zone right in the center of both of the pictures, also note the flat side of the explosion on the right side of the two pictures, also note the almost perfectly round shape of both detonations.

These are the tell tale signs of an air burst low yield directed warhead designed for penetration.

and uncontrolled fuel explosion looks like this. www.youtube.com...

It does not form a symmetrical ultra bright white flash. Do your homework and maybe read up on military munitions before assuming the official story is gospel like capnignorance.

Originally posted by dirtonwater
Not really funny. Sad actually. Alot of people lost their lives on that plane. Sad how you people can minimalize it by suggesting these people were taken by the government and executed somewhere.

Whats really sad is how people that believe the official story can spread lies instead of doing research to find out what really happened, but they cannot handel reallity.

People like me look for the truth for the people that died that day.

Originally posted by CaptainObvious
I rest my case.

Gee, you still cannot come up with any evidence as to how a thin aluminum airframe could penatrate all the way into the Pentagon.

Thanks for helping prove my point.


[edit on 14-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]

[quote=_Del_]
Betwen the D and C ring you can see a roof. The roof is also between E and D, but less apparent from the photo. The object would have travelled under that roof, not over the building.


K. Where can you see an exit hole in "E" ring inner that would account for the angle between "E" and "B" and the size of the hole in "B"? What i am getting from your reply, is that the object exited "E" inner and somewhere between D and C decided to RADICALLY change direction.

[edit on 14-4-2008 by Azriphale]

reply to post by ianr5741
Thank you,

Your post is as far as I've gotten in this thread so far. Your questions are the same as mine, yet the believers have an answer for each of them, even if they don't make sense, nor have rock solid proof, only that of the government, the same government that we ct'ers believe had a part in the horror that was 9/11.

Looks like we now have a magic hole, much like the magic bullet.

I guess unless it was a bigger hole made by a plane as it should be, its got to be a conspiracy. O yeah the plane was broken into pieces so surely it could have made that small little hole. Fact: Small holes = missiles. No questions asked.

Originally posted by deltaboy
O yeah the plane was broken into pieces so surely it could have made that small little hole

But was it broken into pieces before or after it hit the wall ?

Either way that hole doesn't make a "whole" lotta sense (no pun intended)

It seems to be way off and out of the way, and the fact it is in a circular shape is just weird. All of this could have been settled had they released proper video footage of what actually happened.

Originally posted by Azriphale



K. Where can you see an exit hole in "E" ring inner that would account for the angle between "E" and "B" and the size of the hole in "B"? What i am getting from your reply, is that the object exited "E" inner and somewhere between D and C decided to RADICALLY change direction.

[edit on 14-4-2008 by Azriphale]

The exit hole in E is under the roof. The E ring damage you see in the photo is because of the collapse not an exit hole. The line between the two is the angle of the impact. The chart of the discovered remains displayed earlier support that.

dick cheney made that hole. riiiiiiight. lmao, are you guys kidding? still no evidence of an inside job seven years later, just ridiculous questions that ignore the real evidence.

the bottom floors were open structure, not reinforced, other than the outer wall. totally plausible that a part of a 757 would make it through. now regarding the symmetry, no scientific data you present would prove that a piece of jet couldnt make a round hole. WHAT ARE YOU SAYING ABOUT THESE PICS, HOW COULD THEY CONTRIBUTE ANY EVIDENCE TO AN INSIDE JOB??? THEY DONT.

[edit on 14-4-2008 by fastfingersfunk]

this photo is laughable. somebody placed a white line that obviously does not even extend from the inside exit hole of the outer most wall, to try and make it seem like the trajectory means something other than a 757. if you move the line over to where the damage is on the inside of the outermost wall (where all of the debris came through) where it belongs, then your points are lost. in any case, SOMETHING HIT THE BUILDING, regardles of what it was (although it was flight 77 and proven to be so) so what does this picture provide evidence as to what it was? nothing.

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Since you mention Dick Cheney, likley the most black hearted and wicked man alive, a soulless power and greed freak without a doubt, so pplease answer this question:

WHAT was the ' Order ' that cheney gave that was mentioned by the ' young officer ' in the bunker on 9-11? You know, the young officer that kept telling him how many miles out the ' plane ' was? He said" Do the ORDERS still stand Sir" to Cheney...and Cheney said " Of course they do..." So WHAT orders stood that allowed something to strike the Pentagon? His orders did not...NOT result in any defensive meaures being taken, now did they? No.

So that means that the orders FACILITATED the attack...logic 101. If the order was not for an pizza delivery, and it was not for defensive measures, then there is no other choice. So why would a traitor like Cheney that played a part in the actual attacks, a big part, a major part....a murdering part..why would he hesitate to do anything at all criminal or devious..lying to him is like mothers milk..lies and death and money are his God's and when his black soul seperates from his wretched body after no more doctor's tricks can cheat justice, I am sure that more than one dark and ghastly death angel and demonic spectre will enjoy seeing their new arrival being ushered into a very deserving hell.

Anyone for a resounding rendition of Hail to the Chief' as the gallows dooors drop? Well, we can dream can't we? If only all those filthy Neocon traitors could have one collective neck for us to snap....oh well, I guess all we can do is expose the truth and shame the supporters of the official story for either ignorance or complicity...no other choice is possible.

Originally posted by fastfingersfunk
totally plausible that a part of a 757 would make it through.

No, it is not plausible for a aluminum airframe to make it through.

Photos of the front of aluminum airframe destroyed by small trees, if small trees did this much damage then the reinforced concrette wall would have destroyed the front of the plane.

i114.photobucket.com...


[edit on 14-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Originally posted by ULTIMA1


No, it is not plausible for a aluminum airframe to make it through.

[edit on 14-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]

so give us your scientific explanation as to what would happen to engine parts, landing systems and control systems after entry. none of which are made of aluminum.

also, laughable that you post a picture of a plane sitting on the ground, having nothing to do with a 500MPH crash into the side of a building. trying to explain small trees did the damage and not that the plane had a hard enough landing to cause that damage. so in your opinion that plane was stopped dead in its tracks by small trees that you see? what a joke. i guess that is the logic of truthers. that picture has nothing to do with what would happen to engines, landing gear and control gear after crashing into a building. FAIL.

all you have to do is watch WTC1 & 2 and you will see the debris travels through building when a 757 hits it.



[edit on 14-4-2008 by fastfingersfunk]

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What's laughable is the new people that join only to become clones of the "official debunker mob". Makes me wonder what you are trying to achive, surely if you were in such doubt of the majority on a conspiracy site, why would you bother wasting your time?

Comes down to two reasons for me:
1: Ego driven.
2: You are really beginning to question your reality (as most of us have on this journey into taking the red pill and awakening from our slumber of disneyland fantasy)

of course there is always the other reason....dis dis dis info...but you'd have to give someone so green to the 911 thread the benifit of the doubt...

And if anything your contest has again affirmed my belief of the crime 911 really was. Thankyou.

watchZEITGEISTnow

Originally posted by fastfingersfunk
so give us your scientific explanation as to what would happen to engine parts, landing systems and control systems after entry.

also, laughable that you post a picture of a plane sitting on the ground, having nothing to do with a 500MPH crash into the side of a building. trying to explain small trees did the damage and not that the plane had a hard enough landing to cause that damage.

Well an engine was found outside the Pentagon, but it cannot be matched to an RB211. Thier is no information that has been released on the parts found matching Flight 77.

The photo i posted shows what happend when a plane slid off the runway and hit the trees. So as stated if small trees cause that much damage then the reinforced concrette wall the Pentagon would have destroyed the nose of the airplane.

Whats very laughable is that you cannot admit when actual evidence is shown to you.


[edit on 14-4-2008 by ULTIMA1]

Originally posted by ULTIMA1

Originally posted by fastfingersfunk
so give us your scientific explanation as to what would happen to engine parts, landing systems and control systems after entry.

also, laughable that you post a picture of a plane sitting on the ground, having nothing to do with a 500MPH crash into the side of a building. trying to explain small trees did the damage and not that the plane had a hard enough landing to cause that damage.

Well an engine was found outside the Pentagon, but it cannot be matched to an RB211. Thier is no information that has been released on the parts found matching Flight 77.

The photo i posted shows what happend when a plane slid off the runway and hit the trees. So as stated if small trees cause that much damage then the reinforced concrette wall the Pentagon would have destroyed the nose of the airplane.

Whats very laughable is that you cannot admit when actual evidence is shown to you.

we arent talking about wether the engine parts match or not (which they do, you are making things up again) but rather if they would make it to the exit hole. you said an aluminum airframe wouldnt make it. so i asked about the other parts that arent aluminum and you just said "they dont match". the question is, WOULD THE OTHER PARTS OF THE PLANE THAT ARENT ALUMINUM MAKE IT TO THE EXIT HOLE?

this negates your whole aluminum / tree ridiculous picture because we arent talking about damage to an aluminum airframe we are talking about the rest of the plane and that picture shows no damage to the engines, landing gear, control systems and various other non-aluminum parts of the plane.

i wouldnt expect you to understand that though, it doesnt fit your agenda. you just post crap that has nothing to do with the pentagon and does not parrallel the pentagon strike.

btw, im just amusing your theory, to be honest, we both know that plane crashed hard and was split open, there isnt a single tree located in the path it was coming from. but just to show you that even if trees did do that damage, you are still leaving out the rest of the plane.

[edit on 15-4-2008 by fastfingersfunk]

Originally posted by watchZEITGEISTnow
reply to post by fastfingersfunk

 

What's laughable is the new people that join only to become clones of the "official debunker mob". Makes me wonder what you are trying to achive, surely if you were in such doubt of the majority on a conspiracy site, why would you bother wasting your time?

Comes down to two reasons for me:
1: Ego driven.
2: You are really beginning to question your reality (as most of us have on this journey into taking the red pill and awakening from our slumber of disneyland fantasy)

of course there is always the other reason....dis dis dis info...but you'd have to give someone so green to the 911 thread the benifit of the doubt...

And if anything your contest has again affirmed my belief of the crime 911 really was. Thankyou.

watchZEITGEISTnow

im not trying achieve anything other than showing you how ludicrous these theories are. example above, ultima shows me a pictures of a totally unrelated plane with damage to the exterior explaining that if trees damaged the exterior than surely it couldnt reach the exit hole. TOTALLY IGNORING THE REST OF THE PLANE THAT IS NOT ALUMINUM. NICE THEORY LOL.

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Perhaps you could point out which "non aluminum" part could make that large and perfectly round exit hole? Better yet, point it out in one of the photos.

Thanks.