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About This Video:
Ex high ranking illuminati aristocrat leo zagami interviewed by Hesham Tillawi from current issues.
These are exerpts [in that youtube- video].
The full length video [which is hosted at googlevideo.com] tells more, how his website was shut down, how the police threatened him etc.
This shorter video skims over how different groups, the jesuits, zionists, aristocratic bloodlines, freemasons and muslims plus russians etc. all play their part in the illuminati.
Banking microchipping vatican black pope jesuit general un globalists freedom fascism knights of malta rosicrucians shriners
we researched the story of Svali, a previous Illuminati whistleblower who has now disappeared.
This woman's story is so extraordinary, so shocking, and so important, that we've made the decision to add her to our Tribute page although it's not known for sure whether she is dead or merely silenced. We urge every visitor to our site to listen to or read her testimony: an in-depth radio interview and her own writing. It involves an emotional description, on audio, of her experiencing a ritual child sacrifice - a real one - which she was forced to witness when she was twelve... in the Vatican. No-one who hears this can doubt that this event occurred as described.
She goes on to describe the workings of the Illuminati in everyday society, business, banking and government, internationally, in the clearest detail. Unlike Leo Zagami, Svali (a pseudonym) is or was American and so her English is rather easier to understand on first acquaintance.
Originally posted by Quazga
Keep in mind that the Masonic 33rd degree was borrowed from the Rosicrucians. I think it is like the 5 Temple degree in the AMORC. Either way, it has nothing to do with political bodies and ruling the world.
The other thing that cracks me up is another guy who is supposedly "Ex Mason" who talks about how it is all Satan Worship.
Originally posted by Creo Coactum
Originally posted by Quazga
Keep in mind that the Masonic 33rd degree was borrowed from the Rosicrucians. I think it is like the 5 Temple degree in the AMORC. Either way, it has nothing to do with political bodies and ruling the world.
The other thing that cracks me up is another guy who is supposedly "Ex Mason" who talks about how it is all Satan Worship.
I would like you to ask you, have you been inside a Masonic Logde anywhere in the world? And how do you know that there is no satanic worship?
To students of mysticism and occultism, the term generally means the enlightened ones. It means those who have received illumination, or light, in the sense of attaining Cosmic Consciousness, a realization of the omniscience. The term has been traditionally and historically applied to Rosicrucians and Martinists. The Rosicrucians were often known as "Brothers of the Illuminati," and in fact, in different periods of history, outwardly used the name of Illuminati, or les Illumines. The Illuminati were well established in southern France in the region of Toulouse, and of course, were one and the same as the Rosicrucians. Also, in Germany they were prominent in the latter part of the eighteenth century. In 1776, one Adam Weishaupt established a sect which he called the Illuminati. It had no connection with the older movement, concerned itself greatly with politics, and came into bad repute. Some historians have confused the true Illuminati with this latter movement.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by spacevisitor
When a fake name, someone who can not be questioned to verify and Project Camelot are involved you might consider taking it with a grain of salt.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
Read up on Serpo for some insight especially (if I remember right) the info on RATS.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
I have no opinion on this one other than justifiable scepticism
Originally posted by Blaine91555
There should be hundreds of whistle-blowers if even part of this is true. Otherwise it’s pretty out there.
Originally posted by Heronumber0
There seems to be a concerted effort to discredit Zagami, especially in ATS threads. If ever I need convincing that what he says is true, it is the nature of the criticisms that would persuade me to look further into his arguments. His website is a bit disorganised but very informative.
Originally posted by cornixman
reply to post by Quazga
Quazga,
I believe that secret societies are morally and ethically wrong.
Do you believe that I have the right to state this?
Do you believe that I am wrong in stating this, if so please tell me why you believe I am wrong?
I will listen to what you have to say,
thankyou for your time.
Originally posted by Heronumber0
reply to post by Quazga
Let's be quite clear and please read the website before you comment, Zagami has provided detailed accounts of his rank in the Illuminati prior to his conversion to Islam and his denunciation of the Illuminati.
These accounts are accompanied by photographs and scanned documents which state his status and friendship with members of different societies, including the OTO which was Crowley's Beast 666 association.
He maintained those links for a number of years after leaving the Illuminati. In fact, he still seems to have friendly relationships with the people involved. The details that he provides are verifiable by cross referencing and I have cross referenced some of the details to find them true.
If you said the sky was green and provided me with enough information that was independently verifiable, I might listen to you. However, you have neatly sidestepped the important issues.
There seems to be a concerted effort to discredit Zagami, especially in ATS threads. If ever I need convincing that what he says is true, it is the nature of the criticisms that would persuade me to look further into his arguments.
Originally posted by Quazga
So in the essence of "not side stepping the issue", I ask again, how does criticism of something make it more or less true?
This guy is no more an ex-Mason of the 33rd degree than I am the Pope.