Codex Alimentarius (Mandate That Will Starve 3 Billion People to be In Place by 12/31/09)

reply to post by Equinox99



Hi Equinox. It's not only threatened it's a DONE DEAL. They have already decided that after 12/31/09 these things are all illegal. And you will be treated exactly the same as if you had bought heroin.

All done to "protect" us. NOT.

reply to post by Equinox99


Sorry for the confusion, I was talking about the situation in Australia.

The proposed Codex Guidelines for Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplements will NOT apply in Australia and will have NO IMPACT on the way these types of products are regulated in Australia.

In Australia, vitamin and mineral supplements are regulated as complementary medicines. As such, they are required to meet the same standards of quality and safety as other types of complementary medicines under Therapeutic Goods Act 1989. The TGA is responsible for the regulation of these medicines in Australia. In some other countries, these products are regulated as foods and are subject to the standards and guidelines that apply to food.

That is the difference, it only applies to those countries that regulate supplements as foods.

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i'm interested but i'm having a hard time watching the videos. this lady claims she's not exaggerating in any way, but her way of speaking is so flamboyant and she trying so hard to convince people that it makes me wonder if she's not just peddling twisted facts.

Originally posted by an0maly33
i'm interested but i'm having a hard time watching the videos. this lady claims she's not exaggerating in any way, but her way of speaking is so flamboyant and she trying so hard to convince people that it makes me wonder if she's not just peddling twisted facts.

Well, that is usually the case.

Misinterpret, quote out of context, exaggerate some points whilst conveniently ignoring to mention others ....... I know the media do this as well, but some people do it deliberately, for fun, just to cause distress. I say they're sick. Other's say they're heroes for revealing the secret plots against us ....

I do know that I sleep soundly at night though.


Edit: I do not and never have taken any supplementary vitamins - like squiz I don't trust such things. I do howver eat a fairly balanced (albeit bias towards curry) diet and rarely eat any junk food or pre-prepared 'TV dinners' etc

[edit on 10-4-2008 by Essan]

These Codex guidelines will not apply in Canada,

Health Canada wishes to clarify and reassure Canadians that the proposed Codex Guidelines on Vitamin and Mineral Supplements will not apply in Canada and, therefore, will have no impact on the availability of vitamins and mineral supplements in Canada.

Health Canada

I personally think the industrialized countries would be safe from this sort of thing.

interesting. makes me wonder if there's anything in place in the US that makes us exempt from codex policies, either implicit or explicit. if not we should ask Canada about it. they apparently have it figured out. =)

could always make the move here, I never really seen or heard much about Codex Policies in the US, but it seems more like those chewable multivitamin things , but I dunno...

i have considered it on more than a few occasions. i fear i wouldn't be let in because of a misdemeanor on my record from my college years though. it wasn't severe, but i don't know how strict the immigration policy is up there.

For those who might think that Western nations are immune to Codex compliance, please review the video. It's not a matter of passing it as a matter of law in each country. Codex compliance will supersede existing laws. Failure to comply will be an international trade violation. Any country that does not comply will suffer an embargo and/or other sanctions.

It is also important to keep in mind that this isn't just about supplements in pill form. This is just the nail in the coffin. Already our foods are being stripped of nutrients and pumped full of other things you really don't want at all. Not just fast food either. Produce for example, the stuff that is supposed to be the most healthy for you, is irradiated, and thereby stripped of the nutrients people need to survive. This includes "organic" foods as well. This is already being done.

I strongly suggest that readers here please look over my thread Let Them Eat Cake to see what has already been done to our food supply, and the effect it has had. While it is focused on the US, I feel that all of Western society faces these problems in varying degrees.

[edit on 4/10/0808 by jackinthebox]

Ok, I watched the video, went to the WHO website, www.codexalimentarius.net...

and even looked a bit at this book, Understanding Codex Alimentarius www.fao.org...

But I fail to see anything shes talking about in the video (they also mention it in Esoteric Agenda), nor can I see how malnutrition would be and issue. Does any other reputable source put this all into layman's terms?

I dont think its good.. I want things to stay as they are, but I want to know more.

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...nor can I see how malnutrition would be and issue.

Malnutrition is already an issue, that is killing Americans everyday. It is an epidemic that is only growing worse. But of course no one sees it, because it doesn't seem logical that fat Americans could actually be starving to death.

(This is not just an American problem though for certain.)

[edit on 4/10/0808 by jackinthebox]

Codex and Health Freedom –Be Wary of the ‘Instant Experts’

The Dr. Rath Health Foundation does a good job of sorting fact from fiction. I am in no way a supporter of the Codex guidelines, however this video seems to be very misleading and in many cases just simply WRONG.
www4.dr-rath-foundation.org...

July 2006 – There is currently a significant amount of inaccurate and misleading information circulating on the internet about Codex and other related health freedom issues, much of which would appear to have originated on the website of the so-called Natural Solutions Foundation. Whilst the Natural Solutions Foundation's Medical Director, Rima Laibow,claims to have carefully studied more than 16,000 pages of Codex documentation, the content of her articles and the nature of her proposed strategies strongly suggests otherwise. The following article may therefore help you to sort the facts from the fiction.

Here's a summary, visit the link for all the details.

FICTION: Codex will go into global effect on December 31, 2009.

FACT: The Natural Solutions Foundation do not seem to be aware that ‘Codex’ already consists of around 300 official food standards, some of which have been in ‘global effect’ since as long ago as 1966.
If however the Natural Solutions Foundation is referring specifically to the Codex Guidelines for Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplements then it is in fact confusing these with the European Union's Food Supplements Directive.

FICTION: Theoretical exceptions exist for natural substances which are submitted and accepted for testing by July 12, 2005 at a cost of approximately $250,000 per submission.

FACT: As with the previous example, the Natural Solutions Foundation is confusing the Codex Guidelines for Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplements with the European Union's Food Supplements Directive.

FICTION: Countries who pass the Natural Solutions Foundation's Revised Vitamin and Mineral Guidelines would be protecting themselves from the unbearable burden of World Trade Organization sanctions.

FACT: This is utter nonsense. Tellingly, therefore, what the Natural Solutions Foundation has seemingly not as yet publicly addressed is the specific legal mechanism via which their revisions could supposedly be utilized in place of the official Codex guidelines.

FICTION: Codex has officially reclassified Vitamin C and every other vitamin and mineral your body needs from the class of ‘nutrients’ to the class of ‘toxins.’

FACT: Whilst it is true that through its proposed use of risk assessment to determine safe upper levels for vitamins and minerals Codex will essentially be treating these nutrients like toxins, it has not officially reclassified them as such, and nor could it, as they occur naturally in foods and are essential for life. In fact, vitamin and mineral supplements are actually classified as foods by Codex, which is why its guidelines for these products are entitled the Guidelines for Vitamin and Mineral Food Supplements.
In short, therefore, the claim by the Natural Solutions Foundation that "Codex has officially reclassified Vitamin C and every other vitamin and mineral your body needs from the class of ‘nutrients’ to the class of ‘toxins’" is both untrue and absurd.

The list is quite extensive, I see no need to quote all of them here, visit the link.

We should be more concerned with the things I presented in the video on the previous page. Read "Fast Food Nation" for the very real and very disturbing truth.

Edit to add - The Rath Health foundation also states.....

By publishing this article we are attempting to correct some factual inaccuracies and promote better understanding of these complex issues. It is, however, important to re-state clearly that we in no way endorse the stance taken by Codex Alimentarius against natural health and continue to oppose the work of Codex at every opportunity.

Visit this link on the same site for the truth regarding Codex.
www4.dr-rath-foundation.org...

[edit on 10-4-2008 by squiz]

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Thanks for posting some more detailed material. I intend to look over it more thoroughly shortly, but I do have to say that I sense something "off" with it already. Sounds a lot like interpretive doublespeak that needs to be gone over with a fine-tooth comb. I see a lot of stuff in the "fact" entries that basically say "well the 'fiction' version is actually true, but..."

Originally posted by squiz

Codex and Health Freedom –Be Wary of the ‘Instant Experts’

The Dr. Rath Health Foundation does a good job of sorting fact from fiction. I am in no way a supporter of the Codex guidelines, however this video seems to be very misleading and in many cases just simply WRONG.

I'd hazard to say that the site listed is slightly biased as much of it espouses the benefits of genetically modified foods (GM), pretty much cramming it down our throats with information of how beneficial GM foods are.

Dr. Rolf Grossklaus, the Chairman of the Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses, claims that consumers do not realise the benefits of genetically modified foods and that they will in time change their minds about them.

I get the impression that these people responsible for the site are globalists. In fact it even says so:

The Goals of the Dr. Rath Foundation

The primary goal of the Dr. Rath Health Foundation is to establish a New Global Healthcare System that can be implemented simply and economically in any country, at the local level and right up to the level of national public health policy.

So yes a bias would most definitely exist as they are trying to promote global ideas and plans, in this case global healthcare system, that can be implemented in any country.

The site has me a bit confused however, since in one page they attempt to debunk the video in the OP telling the dangers of the Codex, then in another page they join in on the claims stating the dangers of the codex:

"Codex Alimentarius"

Unfortunately, the pharmaceutical companies did not give in, even though America, the most powerful country in the world, had started to liberate itself from the yoke of the pharmaceutical interests.

Led by the German pharmaceutical companies and under the political auspices of the German government, the international pharmaceutical consortium started its latest offensive. They activated a so-called expert commission of the United Nations with the mysterious name, “Codex Alimentarius.”

and also states:

Only those natural vitamins and other natural products that meet the much too low so-called daily allowances of the pharmaceutical cartel, can be sold in the future.

Countries resisting the implementation of these decisions as binding laws are to be punished by international economic sanctions organized under the United Nations World Trade Organization and other bodies.

I encourage you to talk with friends, neighbors, and colleagues about the Codex Commission, and let them sign the Petition for Vitamin Freedom.

Together, we will prevent the unethical plans of the Pharma-Cartel.

So seemingly they also proclaim the dangers of the Codex Alimentarius on the very same site you linked to.

www4.dr-rath-foundation.org...

Anyone?




[edit on 10-4-2008 by battlestargalactica]

The site is definitely not pro Codex, far from it, they oppose the regulations of codex. It is only trying to get the facts straight.

Should we be worried about Codex? absolutely, they are trying to give more power to the chemical and pharmaceutical corporations in another effort to consolidate power and profits at the expense of natural health solutions that undermine the corporations profitable disease market.

The danger in presenting misleading or false information is simple, it gives reason for people to doubt there is any real danger, when in fact there is danger. Double think tactics.

Let's get the facts without the extremism.

Scarry stuff. I worry for my children's future. Has everyone seen Esoteric Agenda? It talks about Codex & the solution. LOVE

Google Video Link

[edit on 10-4-2008 by corusso]

Originally posted by battlestargalactica

I'd hazard to say that the site listed is slightly biased as much of it espouses the benefits of genetically modified foods (GM), pretty much cramming it down our throats with information of how beneficial GM foods are.

Dr. Rolf Grossklaus, the Chairman of the Codex Committee on Nutrition and Foods for Special Dietary Uses, claims that consumers do not realise the benefits of genetically modified foods and that they will in time change their minds about them.

I'd say the reverse is true the video in the OP is biased, the Rath foundation have investigators who have attended the codex meetings, and again they fully oppose Codex.

That quote is simply highlighting the arrogance and poor science from Codex it's not an endorsement.

I get the impression that these people responsible for the site are globalists. In fact it even says so:

The Goals of the Dr. Rath Foundation

The primary goal of the Dr. Rath Health Foundation is to establish a New Global Healthcare System that can be implemented simply and economically in any country, at the local level and right up to the level of national public health policy.

So yes a bias would most definitely exist as they are trying to promote global ideas and plans, in this case global healthcare system, that can be implemented in any country.

And they are also a non-profit organization and give to charity. Have a good look around on the site and you'll see they are on our side.

The site has me a bit confused however, since in one page they attempt to debunk the video in the OP telling the dangers of the Codex, then in another page they join in on the claims stating the dangers of the codex:

As I said, they fully oppose Codex, I guess they just take a stance on misleading and false information that confuses the subject.

[edit on 10-4-2008 by squiz]

reply to post by squiz

Have you read that foundations books, they are free to download there (my link above)?

Just wondering how they are if anyone has read them..

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Haven't read them, but I'll put it on my to do list and read one over the weekend. I am concerned about Codex and have been for about six months when I first heard about it, I've also written to the government in my country expressing my concerns, no reply though. I have also been writing constantly to stop water fluoridation in my city due to commence in 2010. Unfortunately it's going ahead because there has been little opposition.
I'm sick of the apathetic stance people have to the extent corporations are controlling and manipulating us and ultimately killing us for profit.

(To the OP, please feel free to cross-link your thread if you stop by.)

OK jackinthebox, I stopped by and will check your initial 4 vids here shortly. Thanks!

Here's the thread with the nearly 2 hour documentary on Monsanto
www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=4230291#pid4230291