Can you help me ID this aircraft?

Originally posted by Zaphod58
Right, but we're looking at aircraft that are not 737 sized there. The B-58 might be, but the Bear is definitely bigger.

I'm going to say most people will not be able to correctly identify a seven-series. Only an airliner-size a/c.

JSTARS would be a good fit if it wasn't for the glass and people. Larger than an 737, but has a "gondola" if you will. Still as you can see, the fairing isn't nearly large enough to be what she is describing. (And it barely clears the ground as is!)

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Originally posted by _Del_
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Can you come up with a reasonable hypothesis on why a designer would place a manned gondola of that size under an aircraft? If not, I would consider other another hypothesis. If we believe you saw a manned gondola, the only vehicle that would make sense for it to be attached to would be a dirigible.

No, I don't have a hypothesis, reasonable or otherwise, why a manned gondola would have been under that plane. I mean, what could the gondola provide that the regular aircraft couldn't? Other than a panoramic view, I can't think of anything.

But the gondola was very well lit from inside. How could they even see anything outside when they were themselves so illuminated? So even the panoramic view idea makes no sense.

It was not a blimp. It was a plane. It was flying low and looked like a normal plane except for the gondola. It had wings and again, looked normal except for the gondola.

And I understand why you (and anyone/everyone else) would think I'm "crackers". I've had a lot of strange things happen to me during the last few years, things I never imagined possible.

I have been questioning what happened for quite a while now, and I have absolutely no problem with someone questioning me or my experiences...they are too bizarre to be true, and yet they are true, but you have no way of really knowing that.

But like I mentioned before, I wasn't the only witness (to this or many of the other things that have happened).

I basically have this look perpetually on my face

Originally posted by Miss_Murphy

It was not a blimp. It was a plane. It was flying low and looked like a normal plane except for the gondola. It had wings and again, looked normal except for the gondola.

I can still picture a scenario where a blimp might appear to look like a a normal plane at night.
At anyrate, beyond that I have no idea. I certainly no of no "normal plane" that features a gondola below it. Nor can I conceive of a reason for it.
The fact that atleast one blimp was in the area at the time and has a large gondola much as you described leads me to lean toward a more conventional explanation.

To your other experiences I cannot speak.

Originally posted by _Del_

Originally posted by Miss_Murphy

It was not a blimp. It was a plane. It was flying low and looked like a normal plane except for the gondola. It had wings and again, looked normal except for the gondola.

I can still picture a scenario where a blimp might appear to look like a a normal plane at night.
At anyrate, beyond that I have no idea. I certainly no of no "normal plane" that features a gondola below it. Nor can I conceive of a reason for it.
The fact that atleast one blimp was in the area at the time and has a large gondola much as you described leads me to lean toward a more conventional explanation.

To your other experiences I cannot speak.

There is a blimp with a giant screen. It can show anything it wants.

OK, after a bit more brain straining over planes that carry things underneath here is another option, does this look familiar at all? It doesn't really fit the description but size is impossible to judge without something else to give scale to what you are seeing. Also when you are seeing something bizarre your brain will always try to make the object you are looking at fit with something you know.

This aircraft also flew for the first time in 2004.

Ahh, you beat me to it, waynos.

Everyone should consider that if SC1 can fly like THAT a large, clear plexiglass or plastic gondola could be possible.

That still isn't big enough for people to walk around in.

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The question wasn't whether it would be physically possible to get one to fly -- the question was WHY would you possibly sling a huge glassed-in manned gondola under an a/c knowing that such a design severely compromises your drag coefficient and complicates simple things like landing. Especially when you can use the fuselage of a large plane as she described to house people/equipment.

I'm certain it's possible. I'm rather less certain it has been built and no one has heard of it.

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Miss Murphy--

It is not unusual to see an unusual device in the air. It would, however, be as some one pointed out very unusual for you to see jack boots from a thousand feet away. That aspect I have difficulty accepting.

That said, over the decades of unusual flying objects being reported, we can attribute some of them to some sort of totally unknow and unsuspected living organisms. Sometimes they are like "conventional" disk UFOs and sometimes they are tube-shaped objects moving slowly with no visible signs of supporting structures or propulsion. And sometimes they are evidently alien craft, spy craft, that mimic our own style of craft. Ofttimes, however, these faux craft fail in some aspects to fully mimic the characteristics of our craft. And despite every other apperance of normalality, in this case that would have been the enormous and seemingly impossible glass room that was a clear indication that it was not an Earth craft. IMHO

Miss Murphy--

It comes to mind that several of the details about the black-suited crew and large windows in your report are virtually identical to those reported in the 1960s Barney and Betty Hill abduction case. Robert Fuller wrote the book on that case, "Interrupted Journey."

What if you put wings on this?



I cannot for the life of me figure why you would want to to but it's all I got. Large windows, sections etc.

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Giant Blimp on the Rise

The idea is pretty wild, even for the dreamers at Darpa: build a giant blimp that can haul 1,800 soldiers and their gear 12,000 nautical miles, in less than a week.

But the Pentagon's research arm is serious enough about the project, code-named Walrus, to hand out more than $6 million to Lockheed Martin and Aeros Aeronautical Group to start designing the thing.

The Defense Department has renewed its interest in blimps in recent years; a pair of tethered airships kept watch over the giant American military complex near the Baghdad airport, when I was there. The "tri-phibian" (air, land, sea) Walrus is particularly intriguing because the Pentagon is trying to figure out ways to make American forces less reliant on deep-water ports, foreign bases, and billion-dollar airports to wage war. The Army's Surface Deployment and Distribution Command has its own plans for a such an airship.

Darpa hopes the designs they've just funded will lead to a small-scale Walrus, capable of carting 30 tons, by 2008, Defense Industry Daily notes. That's as much as today's C-130 transport planes. But it's only a fraction of the million pounds that the agency wants the Walrus will ultimately be able to lug around.

The Walrus concept would be aircraft carrier sized. Much larger than the craft she described. And the "windows" pictured are actually segments to assist loading and unloading. But again we're back to blimp at anyrate. I'm stumped.

Originally posted by Aliensun
Miss Murphy--

It comes to mind that several of the details about the black-suited crew and large windows in your report are virtually identical to those reported in the 1960s Barney and Betty Hill abduction case. Robert Fuller wrote the book on that case, "Interrupted Journey."

Yes, the similarity has not escaped me. I noticed that detail about a year ago. I did not believe in ufos or anything else nonsensical at the time that this happened, but after trying in vain to find out what sort of plane this was, I looked up the black uniforms and found that they are used by a U.S. intelligence agency I can't remember and also by the nazis for a relatively short time.

The nazi uniform/ufo angle led me to the Hill story.

FTR, a friend and I were camping on the beach in the summer of 2000 and saw a green cube in the sky. After that, we saw a strange sight in the sky...the stars appeared to be "scrolling" across the sky, moving as a sheet of stars...the entire sky, moving quickly such that the sky was new every few seconds. It lasted a full five minutes.

We kind of freaked and went inside and I noticed the time was way off, like we had lost more than two hours.

Other than that, I don't remember anything weird happening that night but I do wonder.

Originally posted by Miss_Murphy
.the stars appeared to be "scrolling" across the sky, moving as a sheet of stars...the entire sky, moving quickly such that the sky was new every few seconds. It lasted a full five minutes.

We kind of freaked and went inside and I noticed the time was way off, like we had lost more than two hours.

Hmm. Now, that's pretty spectacular. Maybe you should create a separate post for that event.


I have a re-occurring dream similar to your event. Where I'm looking up at the sky at night and all the stars move a large fraction of the sky real quickly - seems a sec or so, unlike your five minutes. I get nausea from the distorted reference and wake with elevated cardio.

Hmm Miss murphy i believe you. We all know that there are plenty of crafts with personalised interiors and exteriors. I think if you could scan some of the sketchs and outline them we could have a better result.

Deny Ignorance,

Semoro

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" We kind of freaked and went inside and I noticed the time was way off, like we had lost more than two hours.

Other than that, I don't remember anything weird happening that night but I do wonder. "



I don't want to add to any burden you may already feel, but, considering this along with your other comments, I'm wondering if you haven't been targeted for something, and not necessarily singled out, meaning, there are probably others with similar experiences, but WHY is the big question!

I do believe you've seen something, but the origin of which remains to be seen. I'll continue to ponder this a while longer.

Originally posted by toasted
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" We kind of freaked and went inside and I noticed the time was way off, like we had lost more than two hours.

Other than that, I don't remember anything weird happening that night but I do wonder. "



I don't want to add to any burden you may already feel, but, considering this along with your other comments, I'm wondering if you haven't been targeted for something, and not necessarily singled out, meaning, there are probably others with similar experiences, but WHY is the big question!

I don't feel burdened...well, I probably do but have learned to deal with it.

A LOT of weird things happened after this "gondola plane", here's a very quick rundown:

7/4/04: gondola plane

8/13/04: see orbs and God appears (I know, save your )

9/9/04: Agent with DIA calls my office and requests a meeting with me on 9/11/04...I agree to meet him on the 13th because the 11th was a Saturday.

10/6/2004: Accidental cold fusion (?) experiment...(long story)

12/04: I leave the state and am met by what looks like holographic birds that appear and disappear before our eyes at every stop. Then the State Police appear at the lodge I've "ran away" to to verify my identity at 2 a.m.

2/9/05: I post the single word "FATIMA" at a forum I used to frequent. I'm not Catholic and I don't even know what it means, I just felt compelled.

2/11/05: Strange large orbs appear over my house and make a geometric pattern over and over again for about two hours (I refer to them now as the "crop circle lights" because the pattern they made, I saw much later, was similar to the Milk Hill crop circle). My neighbor comes outside and watches for a few minutes and then says "I don't know, and I don't WANT to know" and goes back inside his house. A casual friend asks me if I think it's a ufo and should we have panic sex. I answer negative to both.

2/13/05: Sister Lucia, the only surviving child of Fatima, dies.

3/27/05: Easter Sunday, I wake up and all is normal but I begin vibrating and shaking and do not sleep for 106 hours. I'd never had insomnia or anything close to it. On Thursday I have my very first OBE...in it, I am at a white altar that holds a white marble pedestal with a cup on it. A man in white says to me, all eye-rolly (:@@ that "if you really want to know the truth...look inside" and so I go over and look into the cup. Inside, there is red liquid with a swirl of black. Soon, the black begins swirling and mixing with the red and...I am told that we are in the middle of a UNIVERSAL battle between Good and Evil, and that "balance is the key".

Lots more to it (was this the holy grail?) but the gist was the "balance" thing.

At the same time I slip into this OBE, the pope slips into his death coma (again, I'm not Catholic).

This is getting too long, let's just say I started seeing shadow people and the man in the top hat not long after.

I also want to add that there were two paranormal events prior to the "gondola plane"; the scrolling stars that I mentioned above, and something that happened the night before 9/11.

On that night, a friend walked outside my home and then ran screaming back in that I "had to see this!" I walked outside and there was something that looked like a floating boxcar about 75' above my house.

ANYway, thats a very rough outline of what's been happening. I don't expect anyone to believe me, so I'm not going to start threads about the experiences, but will respond to others when I think something I've seen is relevant.

If anyone wants more info about any of it, they can of course u2u me.

Oh bravo! That is spectacular. I'm quite enjoying the show now. All these amazing things, and your first post is about a fairly boring (by comparison) plane with a glass room. Anyone still got any illusions about whether this is a hoax? I'm impressed you made four pages. Just goes to show the gullibility of some people. Can we now please close the thread?

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But...but...I'm on the internet, you HAVE to believe me!

Seriously though: Everything strange is not necessarily a "hoax". And? I already stated that I would not be starting threads about any of the experiences I named, so chill out.

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Have you ever meddled in occult stuff, like the Ouija board, or meditation, maybe tarot cards?