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Originally posted by jackinthebox
That's one of the reasons the police can do random warrantless bag searches now, without a Constitutional amendment.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
How about getting a chip? 30,000 cops in Britain are getting it for "safety" reasons. You gonna take the mark of the beast when the time comes?
I have to have reasonable suspicion to search someones bag, however I can pat someone down for officer safety.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
I don't agree with the pat-downs either though, unless a person is being arrested. Why should you be able to disarm me before you violate even more rights?
Originally posted by jackinthebox
So? The point is that warrantless bag searches without probable cause has been "legalized."
Originally posted by jackinthebox
I don't agree with the pat-downs either though, unless a person is being arrested. Why should you be able to disarm me before you violate even more rights?
Before I start talking to someone who might have commited a crime, I want to make sure they dont not have a gun, knife, needle, etc. that they can use to injure me if they try to run away/inflict bodily damage. Do you not understand "officer safety"?
My departments policy is that if you suspect something and are relatively sure you will find drugs, then you call the passive K9 unit before you search.
Disarm you? If you have a weapon, the cops will ask for your CCW. No big deal, you show it, you're good to go. They aren't going to take your weapon if you have the proper license, unless you're carrying in an area where you're not suppose to have a weapon (like the knucklehead that was carrying in the NY State Capital).
Originally posted by jackinthebox
There are some officers who will pat down just about every person they talk to....
...Pating down a bunch of kids just riding around in a car is not acceptable, even if you have a gut feeling that one of them probably has a dime-bad of bid stuck in their shorts.
It's just like any other power given to police officers. I remember when the Taser came out. It was supposed to be used as an alternative to using their firearm. Now it's used on people for not signing their traffic ticket.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
There's one department not far from me that has been going through scandal for years, to the point that the Feds stepped in and made a list of recommendations, including enforcing the basic simple requirement that officers wear name tags. They still don't wear the tags, and that's just the start of it.
Our department just recently removed nametags from our uniform SOP, we just use PD numbers now.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
Militarization. If you aren't showing your name, you are no longer a member of and a servant to a community. You are now a numbered commodity controlled by and representing a new paradigm.
Star for your previous post BTW
Some officers(rookies) do not like people knowing their names.
Originally posted by jackinthebox
Militarization. If you aren't showing your name, you are no longer a member of and a servant to a community. You are now a numbered commodity controlled by and representing a new paradigm.