Anyone here a Freemason? Anyone know a Mason?

Originally posted by lazy1981
reply to post by senrak

 

I could have swore I've seen him wearing a Shriners hat. I hate being wrong twice in one post.

Oh well, I can't realy substantiate my claim beyond my own recollections so I'm not going to argue the point.

The last US President that was a Mason was Gerald Ford... before him were Lyndon Johnson (only an Entered Apprentice though, for some reason he never took it further), Harry Truman, and Franklin Roosevelt. As far as I know, those were the only presidents in the 20th century that were Masons.

I Have just started the long Journey of Freemasonry, im a Second Degree (Fellowcraft) here in England, my elevation To Master Mason is set For the 23 of November 2008

On Thursdays We All get together in the Lodge to do Lodge Of Instruction, this entitles the practicing of Rituals used in Ceremonies.



[edit on 3/29/2008 by Grand Hierophant]

My in-laws are freemasons but good luck getting them to come here and share their experiences, they're too secretive about it. I almost got them to spill the beans when we were watching the thanksgiving football game together, it would've been great but I think as far as they did admit it was enough to convince me that my gut feeling was correct.

Originally posted by JustMe74

Originally posted by lazy1981
reply to post by senrak

 

I could have swore I've seen him wearing a Shriners hat. I hate being wrong twice in one post.

Oh well, I can't realy substantiate my claim beyond my own recollections so I'm not going to argue the point.

The last US President that was a Mason was Gerald Ford... before him were Lyndon Johnson (only an Entered Apprentice though, for some reason he never took it further), Harry Truman, and Franklin Roosevelt. As far as I know, those were the only presidents in the 20th century that were Masons.

What about Eisenhower? Didn't he try to warn us about something or another in his farewell speach? What about J.F.K?

I remember my ex brother in law was going to be a mason, as was his father and grandfather, and his uncles and friends of many of these kin. He was proud to participate, he watched his dad for many a year go out of his way to be there for the fundraisers and many other events held to raise money for various charities. Anyway, on the night of his 'initiation' into masonry, he came back from the ceremony or meeting and his wife and I were dying to know what took place, he had kidded us that if there really were any secrets that revealed something truly amazing or mind boggling, he would tell us. Upon his return, all he would say was that he would not, could not, ever look at religion the same way again, and told his catholic wife that he wanted her to start coming to his church , at least give it a chance, he said he wanted to know that they would always be together, even in the afterlife. She was so offended, seeing this as a slur on her lifelong religious practices, but he was so genuine about it, and adamant, that it became the reason for his divorce six months later. With so many prominant individuals sending in written testamonials as to his character ( all mason members) he was extended full custody of their 2 daughters. His ex wife was reported missing in Florida and remains on a missing persons listing on the internet.

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Originally posted by Straighten Arrow
What about Eisenhower? Didn't he try to warn us about something or another in his farewell speach? What about J.F.K?

Eisenhower warned us of the powers of the military Industrial Complex. (YouTube Vid)

The JFK speech has been interpreted in various way. IMO, he is calling on the media for greater secrecy and more cooperation with his administration in time of war. Some say he was referring to communists, others to Freemasons. Keep in mind JFK was a Knights of Columbus.

Don't take my word for it. Read it for yourself in its entirety. Then decide what you think he was saying. (most videos take out too much of the speech to understand what he's referring to)

Here's what Jim Marrs believes JFK meant.


[edit on 30/3/08 by ConspiracyNut23]

Originally posted by ConspiracyNut23
The JFK speech has been interpreted in various way. IMO, he is calling on the media for greater secrecy and more cooperation with his administration in time of war. Some say he was referring to communists, others to Freemasons. Keep in mind JFK was a Knights of Columbus.

My thought is that the speech was referencing the elite bankers and "power elite," if you will, that are/have been/will be attempting to control our government through whatever means they have available to them since the founding of the country -- IMO the "bankers" were a big part of what the founders wanted to get away from.

Look at the banking cartels and what they've been doing for the last 100 years and then listen carefully to that speech again and see if you don't come to the same conclusion.

Then? Wham! Brains in the street. Look at all the presidents who have been vocal about criticizing/attacking the central banks -- throughout the history of the country -- and compare that list to presidents who have been assassinated...

Spooky, IMHO.

[edit on 3/30/08 by The Axeman]

Originally posted by Straighten Arrow
What about Eisenhower? Didn't he try to warn us about something or another in his farewell speach? What about J.F.K?

Eisenhower warned (and rightly so, IMHO) about the "Military-Industrial Complex," (en.wikipedia.org...) but as far as I know he was not a Mason.

JFK was not a Mason either; I don't think JFK was talking about "secret societies" at all in that speech (I suggest reading the text of it in the link a few posts above this one); during most of the early and middle part of the 20th century, the press was very cooperative with the government. For example, they covered up the fact that FDR was wheelchair bound, and wouldn't print any photos of him in the wheelchair. By the 60's, things were changing quite a bit, and certainly by the 70's things had changed considerably (Nixon/Watergate... although, really the things that Lyndon Johnson and JFK did in their campaigns were just as bad as anything Nixon did... but by then the press was doing a lot more investigating and a lot less cooperating). So I think in that context, the speech makes more sense...



[edit on 3/30/2008 by JustMe74]

Proud Canuck Mason. That said, knowing what I do and having experienced what I have, I find it vexing that so many non-Masons profess knowledge superior to long-time Masons The irony, I suppose, is lost upon them.

Originally posted by Masonic Light

One of our ATS members here, Appak, is a 33° Scottish Rite Mason. Not sure about any others.

is it true that those at 33* use witchcraft?
what kind of witchcraft?

None of the real masons would tell you a word about their activities and rituals. They will be killed and tortured for doing that. So continue listen to the beautiful stories.....

reply to post by Mikee


And of course, none of the non-Masons would admit that Masonry has a lot more to do with making good men better than they'd care to admit, thereby scotching their Masons-as-reptilians-or-somesuch theories. Why is it so much easier to assume the worst than the best?

Originally posted by Mikee
None of the real masons would tell you a word about their activities and rituals.

You mean like we've done hundreds of times on dozens of theads in this very forum?

Give me a break Mikee.

They will be killed and tortured for doing that.

Uhm-hmm. So where are all the bodies of those (like myself) who openly discuss our "activities and rituals" ?

So continue listen to the beautiful stories.....

Well said!

This has definitely been an eye opener. According to a few people that I know who are Masons, only males that are descendants of the founding fathers are actual Masons and nobody else can be. Birthright is very important, you can pretty much join at any time, but the younger you join, the higher up in the ranks you can begin.

So, seeing people say that they were invited by lodges is very interesting.

Overall, nothing special going on, as many have attested to in this thread. But maybe the 300 (or another number now) have variable influence because they are in positions of power of various kinds in real life. That is not really a conspiracy, but just how life really works.

As for Bush, I know one person who has seen him at Masonic functions (I am thinking Bush Sr. not Jr.) - but he could have been invited as a person of power and influence as a guest.

Originally posted by kokuryu
According to a few people that I know who are Masons, only males that are descendants of the founding fathers are actual Masons and nobody else can be.

What is an 'actual Mason'? I most assuredly can not claim any of the Founding Fathers as my ancestors yet I am a Mason. As a side note, the Majority of the Founding Fathers were not Masons.

Birthright is very important,

No, it is irrelevant. Your character as a man is what is important.

you can pretty much join at any time, but the younger you join, the higher up in the ranks you can begin.

All Masons begin at the same point, as an Entered Apprentice Mason and progress through the remaining two degrees accordingly. While joining earlier enables you to possibly become an officer at an earlier age, and travel through the various stations thereof, there is no garauntee that you will become an officer. This honor is reliant upon your desire to contribute in lodge and not upon your youth or age.



[edit on 30-3-2008 by AugustusMasonicus]

My Dad is 3rd Degee, I think. Both of my parents belonged to Eastern Star, my brother was in De Molay and my siste and I were both Rainbow Girls. There's not much mysterious about it. I think if Masonry and the related organizations were working on some vast conspiracy of world domination or some such thing, they are pathetically innefficient. None of my family knows of any such thing and it's taking an awfully long time for them to accomplish their ends (maybe because "they" never tell their members what the group is "really" up to-not sure how you get anything accomplished that way). Mostly there was, in retrospect, a lot of silly ritual and a chance to really dress up. In Rainbow Girls, if you held one of the stations (colors) in the rainbow, you were supposed to have a near-formal dress matching your color. If you were one of the "Worthy Advisors" (top four officers: north,south, east and west was how you were seated in the room) you wore something fancy and white, and some kind of tiara, if I remember correctly). There were also officers, I think, called Faith, Hope and Charity. At each meeting, each officer had a little speech to say (this is all from 35 years ago, so don't hold me to the details) and then it was pretty much an "old business, new business, treasuror's report, dicussion on bake sales and other such covert activities type meeting). We voted on new members by using black or white marbles-a secret vote-put into some kind of jar or something. Then they were very ceremoniously removed one at a time by the top Worthy Advisor. One black marble was enough to keep a new person out, thus the term "black-balled". I quit in protest, and so did my sister, when one of my best friends, a Russian immigrant, and a girl of Jamaican ancestry (in other words, Black) both were blackballed. All the religious overtones apparently didn't allow for someone "different", but that was just my lodge-I can't speak for others. Anyway, they still haven't managed to take over my small home town yet. Neither have the Masons, DeMolay or Eastern Star. Maybe if "they" told their members that the real aim was one-world government or whatever and how it was to be accomplished, we'd have known better what to do and stopped wasting our time on bake sales and clothing drives for the needy. Really bad leadership, I'd say, especially in the brainwashing department, and the planning must be awful! After I left 35 or so years ago, you'd think they'd have made some progress! (DeMolay did put on nice formal dances, though my brother quit them when the Jamaican girl's brother got blackballed, too)).

reply to post by The Axeman


Referencing the elite bankers and "power elite," if you will, that are/have been/will be attempting to control our government through whatever means they have available to them since the founding of the country

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I think he is an honorable guest but has not taken the masonic oaths? I have seen him where the blue necktie quite a bit however. Who knows

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I wouldn't worry about it, since you have loved ones like I do that are involved in the fraternity. NWO is nothing to worry about on our level anyway. Just don't vote for Obama, not because he is black but because of his morals and views. I know that a lot of people will tell you that their morals shouldn't have anything to do with how they run the country but I think the opposite because they have to have a vision of how they think it should be and once you put somebody in power with their own agenda then the corruption begins. Just my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth.

Originally posted by thetruth777

If you are, which degree are you?
>Master Mason and Royal Arch Companion

What do you do at Freemasonry?
> Meet, greet and eat.

How did you get there?
> I asked to join a lodge affiliated with the university where I am in graduate school after meeting several brothers. Plus (as a Mason may know from my ID) I am the son of a Master Mason.

And, most importantly, WHAT DO YOU KNOW?????
> All the secret arts, parts ands points. Plus, enough to know that there are no secrets.