Asking the President a possiblility???

I mean the president of the united states is said to have almost the power to do w/e right?

Are we able to ask the president for disclosure or has no one even ever tried this before?

Maybe the president is the only person we have to convince in order to bring disclosure. And with all this evidence convincing a single individual would be a sinch in my mind.

From there the rest would be up to him...or her hehe to inform the country or world etc. I mean the country and world would believe the president in a second about aliens right? I mean they would have to. No questions asked.

Then again maybe the president has never dwelled on the account that aliens even could exist and or could be kept in the dark from even pondering there existance. But if the president tried hard enuff couldnt they find the truth?

And if the president said no or w/e we could just a pull a JFK and try again.

Each and every president in modern times has been asked. I've seen the History Channel special on UFOs and Presidents... I even remember Bill Clinton being asked and he got all flustered saying that he'd really like to know but 'they wouldn't tell him'. (shadow gov't not telling him???)

Recently one of the Dems (Dennis K.) running for POTUS was asked about aliens and UFOs attacking earth. It was a good question but the fact that he gave a serious answer instead of poo-pooing it gave the press foder to make fun of him.

Seriously though - see if you can get a hold of a copy of the History Channels Presidents and UFOs .... it was very good.

Its a well known fact that the president actually has very little power when it comes to those kinda things, its called plausible deniability and what they don't need to know they are not told. As someone already mentioned, there have been countless efforts from presidents to gain access to stuff like that but they are turned down.

They just arent trying hard enought then. If a president truly wanted disclosure i bet he could find a way to make it happen. I bet he could even totaly get away with lying and say going on live television saying that they are real and here then sign off. How many minds would this sway?

They would never ever do that, period.

also I found this for you to read.
www.ufoevidence.org...

I very much doubt that the current incumbent of this office would be able to disclose what he had for breakfast without being instructed by his handler (father ?) and without making it sound like a misleading statement.

Watch this: www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Recently one of the Dems (Dennis K.) running for POTUS was asked about aliens and UFOs attacking earth. It was a good question but the fact that he gave a serious answer instead of poo-pooing it gave the press foder to make fun of him.

Yeah. So damn immature. Sometimes I wish aliens WOULD attack Earth just so we could laugh in the faces of people like that who would never take such a possibility one bit seriously. But I'm sure we'd be too busy unsuccessfully trying to defend ourselves to laugh.

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actually when bill clinton first came to office he told his right hand man "theres 2 things i want to know. Who killed kennedy? & are UFOs real?"

his man asked about but didnt get any positive responses from anyone fbi,cia, army etc

so people claim the government covers everything up but they forget diffirent administrations come and go. Then story tellers evolved the "secret gvt" which it would seem controls everything & all information yet leaks none over a 60 year time span. If you want to believe that your welcome

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You do realise who the current President is? He's not willing to answer questions about 911, unless it is in private (with his minder Dick), no transcripts taken and no sworn oaths with no disclosure of his answers. This President is about as open as a locked safe and as innocent as a fox in a hen house.

Don't look to the next President to be any better.

Clinton can't tell the truth about how she was greeted in the Balkans twelve years ago, after stepping off the plane to the waiting reception party. She'll only spin disinfo, if she remembers what brand of it she's meant to be spinning.

Obama has already dismissed UFOs in the same interview/debate with Kucinich, when he stated words to the effect of 'let's worry about life on Earth before we worry about life in space'.

McCain, yeah right - he's Military-Industrial-Complex all the way... I can't trust a man with medals on his chest. The medals are a token of how willing the man is to follow the official party doctrine, while keeping secrets close to his chest. Military men aren't taught to think, they're taught to take orders and follow them.

They just arent trying hard enought then. If a president truly wanted disclosure i bet he could find a way to make it happen.

Sure, but they don't want to end up with half their head missing while riding around in a Lincoln while their widow screams in horror....

Presidents come and go; the true power lies with the lifelong bureaucrats, and that's where such knowledge would be (and stay with)...

Google on presidential ufo to find out how well past attempts went...

lifelong bureaucrats

see even if they spent their whole working life in the secret government since 1947 some must have retired & been replaced by now, infact its been 2 generations since roswell. So your talking about a generational secret. I find that even less likely

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Originally posted by yeti101
So your talking about a generational secret. I find that even less likely

I find it highly likely that generational power dynasties can operate in secret. We've already seen gross public displays of power dynasties with the Presidents!

Look at the generational influence that the Bush family has had. How can a country elect a Father/Son team for President? It seems corrupt to me, that one family can control a country for twelve years.

Similarly, if Clinton is elected, how can a country let a Husband/Wife team be elected for so many years?

Do you really think that a secret group of bankers and wealthy MIC executives will let their power and fortunes be inherited to anyone else other than their own genetic pool?

right good i think its the first time ive heard that. So the secret government is a generational political dynasty that leaks no evidence of ET existance over a 60 year timespan?

now presumabley you think people work on these alien artifacts/spaceships ?. Are those scientists also involved in bringing their offspring into the research on a generational basis to continue the secrecy which has been provided over the last 60 years?

Do you think thats likely? i dont as you would want the best available worlwide. That would involve bringing lots of people in over the past 60 years. None of which were willing to leak evidence to anyone else in their entire lives? the greatest discovery in the history of science? not a peep to anyone not even if theyre drunk! hmmmm

im sure we would have a few deathbed confessions from scientists or some stolen artifacts by now.

[edit on 27-3-2008 by yeti101]

Originally posted by yeti101
right good i think its the first time ive heard that. So the secret government is a generational political dynasty that leaks no evidence of ET existance over a 60 year timespan?

Quite possibly. If only we knew. That's the trouble with secrets, unless you know them - you don't know them. The unfortunate incident in 1963 served as a nice warning for any future Presidents to stop trying to make a difference and to do what they're told.

Are those scientists also involved in bringing their offspring into the research on a generational basis to continue the secrecy which has been provided over the last 60 years? Do you think thats likely?

How should I know? I'm not in the secret loop to know how secret information is compartmentalised. Perhaps, scientists are employed to work on secret projects - and that's all they know. If I knew the answer, then I wouldn't be reading speculative discussion boards like this one.

Consider this: If Hilary wins, then there's the real possibilty that the USA could have a period of 28 years with only TWO families in charge! I wonder if they're already grooming Chelsea for her eight year stint to keep it all in the family. Maybe they've made a deal that Barbara or Jenna Bush will get a chance after Hilary is done?

Originally posted by yeti101
None of which were willing to leak evidence to anyone else in their entire lives? the greatest discovery in the history of science? not a peep to anyone not even if theyre drunk! hmmmm

im sure we would have a few deathbed confessions from scientists or some stolen artifacts by now.

See, that's where you are completly wrong.

There have been plenty of death-bed confessions. The trouble is that they are always discredited. Walter Haut made a death-bed confession. Did you believe it? Did you believe Jesse Marcel when he confessed to what he saw?

Bob Lazar has made confessions and taken pieces of 115. Did you believe it?

How do you know that no-one has ever leaked any information when drunk? I've personally heard some very interesting facts from people who swore me not to divulge. Without supporting evidence, I'm not going to propogate hearsay - for you wouldn't believe me (or them) if I passed on a fairytale, right?

Just because no-one has told YOU anything while they were drunk, doesn't mean that no-one ever leaks anything when they are drunk. Perhaps you should speak with and listen to more people when they are both sobre and drunk. You might be surprised what you hear.

yes i concede america has political dynasties but scientific dynasties?

i see no credible way something which must involve so many people over generations can be kept a secret. i mean russia & china steal all americas secrets do they have a scientific/political generational coverup too?

You have to go really really far to try justify a scenario where thats actually possible abit like the 9/11 folks. I cant see it happening

edit: sorry i mentioned bob lazar but then edited it out. He's provided no evidence only stories & the stories we can check have turned out to be false. Give me a photo or a fragment.

Seriously if your pinning your hopes on lazar well...good luck!



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UFO Files: UFOs And The Presidents (Thanks FlyersFan ) in five parts






If one dared ask the current President's people here's one way; navigate to www.whitehouse.gov and click the interactive link to submit a question or click this link which should take you to the submit a question form.

Another way may be to ask VP Richard Cheney through the White House or email him at [email protected] or use the White House contact page at this link. I could not find an email for the current President, but I'd rather try and talk to "Big George" anyway because he speaks English and doesn't invent words so often as his son the President.

Speak'

[edit on 27-3-2008 by SpeakEasyOne]

Originally posted by yeti101


Seriously if your pinning your hopes on lazar well...good luck!


[edit on 27-3-2008 by yeti101]

Lazar was simply ONE of the things he mentioned. There have been many deathbed confessions... except as soon as they happen the goalposts are moved and we're then into 'I don't believe them' mode.

The fact is you keep a secret for any length of time you like... Just have it out in the open but make sure no one believes it, discredit anyone getting near to taking it seriously, make sure the instinctive reaction to the subject is laughter and ridicule, and create a mindset where the first reaction to any untoward disclosure of any kind is 'fake, photoshopped, CGI, liar, loony, etc'... and also make sure that any 'credible' individual (scientist, police officer, military officer, politician) knows that the slightest look at (or mention about) the subject is an instant career killer.

Put all that in place and keeping the secret more or less takes care of it self. The perfect example is the UFO forum here. People practically beat each other senseless to be the first to debunk ANY situation. Hell, those keeping any secret don't need to lift a finger. Those of us interested in the phenomenon do the job for them.

No mainstream scientist will look at the subject, REGARDLESS of what type of evidence you might try to present to them... career killer.

Any politician running for election at ANY level steers well away from the subject, except to treat it as a joke and make sure everyone sees they are on board with the giggle factor.

Mainstream news only knows ONE way to touch on the subject... A combo of light fun & ridicule.

Most pilots (commercial or military) will keep quiet about the subject, regardless of experience... They want to keep flying. A few brave souls do break rank, but they are in for a terrible time, even down to possibly losing their jobs

And on it goes... UFOs, the best/worst kept secret on the planet.

Hell yeah, a secret can be kept

[edit on 27/3/2008 by Dagar]

i specifically said death bed confessions from scientists but to clarify when i say evidence i mean something tangable from someone credible. ie photo, fragment anything!!

but isnt it interesting we've had no death bed confessions from credible scientists? i wonder why? theres definitley a gap in the market there

i'll tell you the position of mainstream scientists on life outside the earth.

almost all beleive microbial life exists in our galaxy
alot believe complex life(plants/animals) exists in our galaxy
some beleive complex or intelligent life is extremely rare in our galaxy.
almost none believe we are being visited by ET


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