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For the media it is the government forces against Mahdi Army, but the reality is more complicated than this, there are the oil smuggle mafia and even “Heaven Soldiers” group, all these groups use AL-Sadr as a cover for their operations.
[At the end of his report he mentions the 17 soldiers arrested yesterday but he don’t says their nationality, are they the same American soldiers reported yesterday]
Originally posted by ergoli
I hope those soldiers, being war crimes suspects, get the same treatment the US gives terror suspects: waterboarding and electroshock torture. I would love them report these things on aljazeera for the world to see what a criminal regime the US has become.
Originally posted by ergoli
I hope those soldiers, being war crimes suspects, get the same treatment the US gives terror suspects...
Originally posted by SaviorComplex
Your comments betray the truth behind your supposed outrage. If you are so against war-crimes, if you believe that innocents have been tortured, why would you want to see such things continue, even in the name of retribution? If you are angry at America, or the President, how would torturing these men hurt either?
Originally posted by ergoli
The point is not retribution. The point is truth and irony. Truth because AlJazeera could air interviews with the soldiers after being waterboarded. The world would then see if these methods are humane as claimed by Bush or not. Irony, because "waterboarding the waterboarders" sounds somewhat funny to me.
Originally posted by ergoli
I hope those soldiers, being war crimes suspects, get the same treatment the US gives terror suspects: waterboarding and electroshock torture. I would love them report these things on aljazeera for the world to see what a criminal regime the US has become.
No the Mahdi army is run by Iran and are basically a copy of Hesbola
Originally posted by Harlequin
reply to post by Sky watcher
are you paid to make this crap up?
The US themselves say Iran isn`t behind them , and Iran say they are not - and Muqtada al-Sadr hsa no direct connections with iran.
next you`ll be saying they are tied to Al-Qaeda
Originally posted by surfinguru
I SERIOUSLY doubt ANY US soldier would allow themselves to be taken under any circumstance. Does Somalia ring a bell for anyone? How outnumbered were those soldiers? Did they allow themselves to be "arrested?" Not gonna happen....
Sounds like Al-Sadr propaganda to me...
"Iraqi forces" are, in fact, "Iranian- (and U.S.-) backed Shiite militias"
Every headline this week has featured some variation of the storyline of "Iraqi security forces" battling "Shiite militias." But the reality is that it is a battle between Shiite militias -- separatists and nationalists -- with one militia garbed in Iraqi army uniforms and supported by U.S. airpower, and the other in civilian clothes.
It has always been the great irony of the occupation of Iraq that "our" man in Baghdad is also Tehran's. Maliki heads the Dawa Party, which has long enjoyed close ties to Iran, and relies on support from SIIC, a staunchly pro-Iranian party, and its powerful Badr militia.
Originally posted by SaviorComplex
If you were so against torture, why would you want to see anyone tortured?
You also claim that you are against war-crimes, yet want to see war-crimes conducted against Americans, simply for the guilt of being Americans (parading prisoners on TV is considered a war-crime in many cases).
Plus, I would say you are worse, on a moral-level, than the "waterboarders." At least they are doing it, supposedly, to protect people. You, on the other hand, just want people tortured for your own personal amusement.
Originally posted by ergoli
Moral amusement, yes. A US soldier crying the hell out of the live aljazeera camera for not being waterboarded or electroshocked again certainly would wake up the american public to the criminal nature of the Bush Regime.
Originally posted by jerico65
Originally posted by ergoli
Moral amusement, yes. A US soldier crying the hell out of the live aljazeera camera for not being waterboarded or electroshocked again certainly would wake up the american public to the criminal nature of the Bush Regime.
Boy, you're just a load of chuckles, aren't you?
You do realize that US troops captured don't really get a chance to get on Al-jazeera? They just torture and execute them.
Originally posted by ergoli
I hope those soldiers, being war crimes suspects, get the same treatment the US gives terror suspects: waterboarding and electroshock torture. I would love them report these things on aljazeera for the world to see what a criminal regime the US has become.
Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr said Sunday that he was pulling his fighters off the streets nationwide and called on the government to stop raids against his followers and free them from prison.
The Iraqi government quickly welcomed al-Sadr's apparent move to resolve a widening conflict with his movement, sparked Tuesday by operations against his backers in the oil-rich southern city of Basra.
Al-Sadr's nine-point statement was issued by his headquarters in the holy city of Najaf and broadcast through loudspeakers on Shiite mosques. It said the first point was: "taking gunmen off the streets in Basra and elsewhere."
He also demanded that the Iraqi government stop "haphazard raids" and release security detainees who haven't been charged, two issues cited by his movement as reasons for fighting the government.
Followers of Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr will not hand over their weapons as part of a move to end a week of fighting in Iraq, a top Sadr aide said.
The aide, Hazem al-Araji, also said that Sadr's followers had received a guarantee from the government that it would end "random arrests" of Sadr followers.
"The weapons of the resistance will not be delivered to the Iraqi government," he told journalists at Sadr's office in the holy city of Najaf after distributing a statement from Sadr calling on followers to stop fighting.
Sadr's statement also called for the government to halt arrests of his followers and implement an amnesty law to free prisoners.
"We confirm that there were guarantees taken from the Iraqi government to fulfill all the points in this statement. Thus, no more random arrests," he said.
The Iraqi government launched a crackdown on Sadr followers in the southern city of Basra last week. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki ordered them to surrender and has offered cash in return for heavy and medium weapons handed over by April 8.