Will you bow down to the NWO??? How soon before we are forced to take ""THE CHIP!!!""

It's too late, its already in your passport and the new national ID. If your state rejectes the National ID, you will have to use your passport to travel. So no getting around it......too late.

Originally posted by CPYKOmega
Who do you work for? Either you are a gov't shill or you are brainwashed beyond repair.

Oh, now, that's not very nice. In response, I can only suggest that your fear is a result of you probably being involved in some kind of petty crime, like smoking or dealing dope, cheating on your spouse or taxes, being involved in prostitution, collecting kiddie porn, or something of that nature. Something you don't want anybody to find out about. As for me, I don't do any of that stuff, and I want people to be able to find me when necessary.

These chips can not only track your every move, but have been proven to cause health problems in people who already have them.

I'm sure there will be some improvements made in them by the time they're ready for mass use. Some bugs will have to be worked out, as with any new technology. I'm sure the problems will be solved.

Originally posted by Choronzon
It's too late, its already in your passport and the new national ID. If your state rejectes the National ID, you will have to use your passport to travel. So no getting around it......too late.

Exactly. It's not like you can't already be tracked pretty closely. Every time you buy something with a debit or credit card. Every time you enter a building with security video. Every time you use your cell phone. And so on. A good chip is just another small step on a road we're already a long way along.

These are technological advances people want and pay big money for because they help make life easier. I don't feel less "free" because of them. In fact, I feel more free that I don't have to carry a lot of money and that I know people can find me if they need to. Those are good things.

Originally posted by Nohup

Oh, now, that's not very nice. In response, I can only suggest that your fear is a result of you probably being involved in some kind of petty crime, like smoking or dealing dope, cheating on your spouse or taxes, being involved in prostitution, collecting kiddie porn, or something of that nature. Something you don't want anybody to find out about. As for me, I don't do any of that stuff, and I want people to be able to find me when necessary.

I'm sure there will be some improvements made in them by the time they're ready for mass use. Some bugs will have to be worked out, as with any new technology. I'm sure the problems will be solved.

LOL.. Ignorance at its finest. For one I have never committed a crime in my life. Have no record whatsoever. Two I have no spouse.

We have rights. Having a chip forcibly inserted into your body without your consent is a bit much don't you think?

Originally posted by CPYKOmega
We have rights. Having a chip forcibly inserted into your body without your consent is a bit much don't you think?

My guess is that when such a thing become readily available, and it's better than the current methods of tracking and I.D., people will gladly volunteer to have it done. You won't have to force anybody. And after most people get it, those who don't will be out of the loop. Just like people without cell phones. Nobody's forcing me to have a cell phone, which is also a tracking device.

The kids will really want the chip. And if your kid doesn't get the chip, they'll be socially ostracized. The other kids will think their parents are a bunch of hippies or weirdos who don't care if their kids get kidnapped, just as long as they can keep their "freedom." Groovy, man.

Besides, our "rights" are always defined and enforced by our laws, which are agreed upon as best for society in general. If it turns out that a law is passed requiring the chip, then that will be that.

As I've said, if you want to be a part of this society, you gotta play by the rules. Even complete bums on the street have to wear clothes, use money, walk when the light says it's okay, and so on. If you don't want to do that, then it's time to get your hermit on and find a nice abandoned mine in the hills to live in. And start reading up in the "Survival" forum to learn how to build your hermit bunker and live in style.

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Originally posted by Nohup

The kids will really want the chip. And if your kid doesn't get the chip, they'll be socially ostracized. The other kids will think their parents are a bunch of hippies or weirdoes who don't care if their kids get kidnapped, just as long as they can keep their "freedom." Groovy, man.

Besides, our "rights" are always defined and enforced by our laws, which are agreed upon as best for society in general. If it turns out that a law is passed requiring the chip, then that will be that.

As I've said, if you want to be a part of this society, you gotta play by the rules. Even complete bums on the street have to wear clothes, use money, walk when the light says it's okay, and so on. If you don't want to do that, then it's time to get your hermit on and find a nice abandoned mine in the hills to live in. And start reading up in the "Survival" forum to learn how to build your hermit bunker and live in style.

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Well, you've really outdone yourself this time Nh. If there was any doubt left that you shill for the globalist filth, this should remove it. It's all about peer pressure huh? That's what should guide our values; the consensus, shaped by the dialectic process imposed by the dominant media. Forget all that thinking for yourself silliness, and using critical thinking. Submit to the dominant paradigm, or be called insane. Why you weirdo! How dare you think for yourself!

I don't know how it is that you think you'll benefit by supporting the enslavement of the people, but I promise you that you will regret your tyrannical globalist efforts before you're done. You are being used. You will not be included. To believe the promises of liars is the ultimate folly.

Is this chip an "American" thing`?

I mean, this will only be enforced "over there"..?

Since it is the NWO, as in World.. I guess it`s our turn soon?

Originally posted by resistor
How dare you think for yourself!

I don't know how it is that you think you'll benefit by supporting the enslavement of the people, but I promise you that you will regret your tyrannical globalist efforts before you're done. You are being used. You will not be included. To believe the promises of liars is the ultimate folly.

I'm just saying what I think will happen if a chip is introduced and it has obvious benefits. Like I said, it won't be that much different than a cell phone. You aren't required to have one, but you have one anyway.

As for "enslavement," I would suggest that you are being manipulated by a lot of misguided and uninformed paranoiacs who rattle your cage and push your fear buttons for their own ends. They cook up scenarios that make you think of the Nazis and various science fiction dystopias with no proof that such a thing will ever happen.

Whenever anybody uses the words "freedom" and "justice" and "God," they're usually trying to get you to either buy something or do something (often to fight a marginally justified war). Which are you getting conned into doing?

Originally posted by sweetalker
Is this chip an "American" thing`? I mean, this will only be enforced "over there"..? Since it is the NWO, as in World.. I guess it`s our turn soon?

Americans are doing more research into it because we have the time and money to do it. How the NWO eventually uses the technology is not yet exactly determined, although it will probably be used worldwide to track the movement of large groups of people to make sure sufficient public services and resources are available and shifted as needed. Sort of like if you want to save electricity in your home, when you move from room to room, you turn off the lights in the rooms you're not in. On a global scale, it would save an incredible amount of wasted energy. But it requires reasonably accurate tracking.

Or if a hurricane or tsunami or asteroid hits somewhere, the chips will help find out the number of people and area affected, and effeciently send resources to help. And locate both survivors and casualties. Rather than rely on a large individual country or group of countries to do all the expensive heavy lifting. It's fair that way.

The individual benefits of not having to carry passports, I.D., money or keys, or that somebody would be able to find you in an emergency, those are just side benefits. The NWO isn't really interested with you on an individual level. There are too many people in the world for that. No offense, but you're just not that important as an individual. Concerns about individuals have always been and will remain the domain of local government (and law enforcement, if you're up to no good).

It's a slow process, and won't happen overnight. There are still quite a few technical details to work out. And maybe by that time, there will be other less invasive ways to track people's movements. Biometric scanning video in public places, satellite tracking, linked bank activity transaction data, cell phone and Internet activity monitoring and tracking, etc. Somebody already knows what you're generally doing at any given time of day.

With or without the NWO, a surprising amount of your activity already being monitored, and you can expect it to keep increasing in the future. By the time they work the bugs out of the chip, there might not be a need for one, since the data can be found just as easily elsewhere. So the job can be done without riling up the people who want to keep what they think are secrets, and for some egotistical reason think their lives or thoughts are so important that somebody would actually be interested in them.

Originally posted by Nohup
start reading up in the "Survival" forum

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Already have been, thanks.

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herse a theory... some christians speculate that this chip may be the sign of the beast and once taken and cannot be undone... maybe it's not that they cannot remove it but it will alter not only your health but your entire state of mind in way that cannot be undone..... I"m getting chills lol

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ok... so being a social outcast because you haven't take then chip is not the same as forcing you to take it??? Taking away your right to travel? buy food? provide for your family?? all of sudden ppl will be a threat to society bc they refuse to implant a chip in their OWN bodies ??? And you still think this is for the better good??? You have made my point for me!! PPL like you scare me ... its your menatality that will encourage other ppl to follow the NWO and their enslavement... and be the downfall of ppl like me... i will not be bowing down or taking the chip that is for certain and may God help me stick true to those words!!!

Mabey the federal reserve will own all of our mortgages and debt, and in a sense own us, and we would have to get the chip , if we want to keep our homes,
or payment on demand, if you refuse, and if you do not have the money, off to prison you go.

Ama

i think it will be put in by the public by need not by force by the government

where there will be a media event where statistics of missing people wil be put across the news every week

putting the thought into peoples minds so people will wont the chip for security