FBI Sets up Fake Child Porn Links That if Clicked Trigger Armed Raids on Users

reply to post by chromatico


How far are we going? Below 13?

Originally posted by chromatico
it's borderline impossible to click on a porn link by accident.

Search engines regularly have pornography ads and search items.

I have clicked on the ads on more than one occasion by accident. I was not intentionally looking for nudity, but I sure got it.

It is very easy to click a link by accident.

I really never understood how I am expected to tell the difference between someone that is seventeen and someone that is eighteen unless I am able to ask for proof.

reply to post by apc


Also, I presume the FBI would try to gather other evidence of guilt, such as files downloaded on your computer, your browser history, etc.

reply to post by deltaboy


I would argue that the kinds of people that look at preteen porn and worse are the kind the FBI would be targeting in this operation.

reply to post by MrAndy


If its live ask her.

Is it actually illegal to click on a link, any link regardless of what it says?

If not then how can they prosecute someone if that link contained nothing but garbage?

I'm not defending someone who clicks on a link that says 'child porn', or whatever, but they are making clicking the link the crime, not what was download which was nothing but garbage.

Isn't it illegal to tempt people to commit crime? Even if they don't need tempting?

This is a very slippery slope. First it is child porn that is used for raids. The success of the project will be overwhelming. It will be expanded to other areas.

Next the FBI will imbed ads in sites like ATS to self-incriminate innocent civilians.

I can see this technology being abused from the beginning.

Originally posted by ANOK
Isn't it illegal to tempt people to commit crime? Even if they don't need tempting?

Its called self-incrimination and is protected by the US Bill of Rights, Fifth amendment.

I do not have to admit I have done anything. I would be incriminating myself.

Same goes for something like this.

Its a sting operation on a nationwide scale. Pretty sickening.

Everyone is a criminal these days.

reply to post by biggie smalls


Don't be ridiculous. Stings have been an important tool of law enforcement for at least several decades. The conviction rate would probably be far lower without them.

Originally posted by chromatico
Also, I presume the FBI would try to gather other evidence of guilt, such as files downloaded on your computer, your browser history, etc.

So it's cool if I get my door kicked in and my home raided because I accidentally clicked on something? As long as they don't find kiddie porn under my mattress I should have nothing to complain about? This type of apathetic garbage is why the fascist state is able to rise to such prevalence.

reply to post by apc


It does sound Orwellian but we don't have all the details here. However, I think it's reasonable to assume that this FBI link wouldn't be common and would only appear for people out looking for illegal pornography, this would strengthen probable cause and also any potential court case.

That's screwed up for one reason. I don't look at child porn, I find it disgusting in every imaginable way. But my browser has been re-directed to sites that amount to being just that. This is scary #.

reply to post by chromatico


Most likely. The FBI would be snooping in places where child porn is passed between and placed the link there. Not on the top results of google or yahoo as the number one child porn site.
Click here--------> FBI's child porn site.

Me thinks you should read the article, chromatico.

You know what happens when you assume things. All they need is a foot in the door, precedent to be set. They seem to have that. It's all down hill from here.

[edit on 23-3-2008 by apc]

Originally posted by projectvxn
That's screwed up for one reason. I don't look at child porn, I find it disgusting in every imaginable way. But my browser has been re-directed to sites that amount to being just that. This is scary #.

Well it you are looking at porn and the ads start coming up at the screen and you trying to close them down but 2 more comes up for each one that is closed I suggest you turn if off and come back on afterwards. Thats my opinion and my personal experience.

reply to post by apc


Dude, I read the article. One practically had to be begging for the most vile kiddie porn to spring the trap.

so now we have thought police - charging you when you think about a crime

edit:

so what next ; your own children spying on you and turning you in to be `vanished` for thinking or saying something politically incorrect?

[edit on 23/3/08 by Harlequin]

We can all agree that child porn is reprehensible, but this is pure entrapment.
What will this type of "law enforcement" lead too?
They are using false sites to lure the "criminals" and then they arrest them with no evidence other than the assumption that someone with that particular IP address accessed their site.

reply to post by RedmoonMWC


Agreed, theres the possible a friend, relative, or stranger at your office or home could be doing it and you take the bullet.