Boy, 15, nailed to a cross

Boy, 15, nailed to a cross

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A 15-year-old boy has been crucified in the Philipines today in a gory ritual to mark the death of Jesus Christ.

Dozens of Filipinos, including the boy and an 18-year-old girl, were nailed to crosses and scores more whipped their backs into a bloody pulp as the country's devout Roman Catholics marked Good Friday.

The voluntary crucifixions in the northern Philippines were the most extreme displays of religious devotion in this mainly Catholic country, where millions are praying and fasting ahead of the Easter weekend.

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Amazing.

I find it bizarre that to this day we still torture and mutilate ourselves for the loving God we worship.


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So many people misguided by false prophets. This sad barbaric display is far from necessary when the truth lies solely in us.

- Lee


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These are individuals making the decision to do this to themselves. It is not condoned by the Catholic Church. There are no false prophets misguiding these people, they are acting out of personal superstition and misguided faith.

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where are the trols who come and shout about how barberic Islam is when they post images of Shi-ites doing a simmiler thing.
coming on to condem this aswell

looks like there will always be people that take it that one step to FAR

Originally posted by Relentless
These are individuals making the decision to do this to themselves. It is not condoned by the Catholic Church. There are no false prophets misguiding these people, they are acting out of personal superstition and misguided faith.

I never said the Church as a whole condoned it (the article clearly states it does not) but the people in this predominantly Catholic area do, as they are there usually in the thousands to watch this spectacle.

If anything the Church should be more vocal about condemning this sort of behavior and stress how counterproductive it is to spiritual understanding...but of course they fell silent on some of Mother Teresa's Houses of death and suffering in India which she said brought those in pain closer to God and was not created to ease their pain.

There is something very warped about this, but then again even eating and drinking symbolic blood and flesh is a strange practice itself in my eyes even though I have done it at one point in my life years ago.

There seems to be this tie-in to personal pain and suffering that boggles my mind.

- Lee

Whatever happened to simple self-flagellation, and ashes and the wearing of sackcloth?

These two paragraphs jumped out at me:

The atmosphere was festive, with hawkers selling beer, ice-cream and souvenir whips.

And:

Some foreigners have previously been crucified including a Belgian nun and a Japanese man, who later allowed footage of his ordeal to be used in a pornographic film.

I'm not really sure they've got the spirit of this event, quite um... nailed down. :shk:

more or less, they arent doing it for themselves but rather for the views in which they will get from fellow peers...

Mob Manality...... if I dont do it they will think im not a believer....

from the article :

The voluntary crucifixions in the northern Philippines were the most extreme displays of religious devotion in this mainly Catholic country,

as an atheist - i think they are delusional fools - but i also believe strongly in free will

my only intervention ` if i ran the zoo ` would be to have an 18 yo age limit - ie legaly adult

we [ including the philipines ] do not allow 15 year olds to enter into a contract , vote , marry etc etc - but allowing them selves to be crucified is ok ??????????????

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It is a very disturbing tradition which is carried out. People do it out of their own choice, Skynews did a special last year of a British journalist who nailed himself to a cross at Easter.

this isn't news at all they do it every year. and every year i see it on the night news as if it's some new thing. mabe they would stop doing it if it stopped getting attention (prob. not tho).

some do it to try to purify themselves others to "bring others to christ". it's tradition as well so good luck trying to get rid of it

I find it bizarre that to this day we still torture and mutilate ourselves for the loving God we worship.

I'm sorry, I have different words to describe it. The nicest one I can think of is cruel. The others I can't say here.

TheRedneck

I don;'t understand the need to renact such barbarism when modern science has developed the perfect solution...

what in the world?

why would they nail themselves to a cross? how does that prove anything except that you're a nut?

it isn't devotion it's stupidity. you aren't gaining points with god by mutilating your own body.

I wouldn't mind getting nailed this Easter.:bash:
Hey!! who said that? wasn't me

I have to agree with Bodrul on this one..
This is more of a 'Sheesh,the things people do' story..
than an outraged attack we're used to hearing against certain Middle Eastern countries and their long standing traditions too.

A touch of hypocrisy don't you think?

In the Catholic faith suffering is thought to purify the soul. I'm sure the church would not condone this activity in the Phillippines, but certain monks and others have practiced self-flagellation and other forms of self-punishment for centuries. I was once Catholic but this aspect of the faith I could never accept.

WTH!!!

You have to be kidding me.!! really?

IM just about speachless here..

Now Ive heard of re-enactments and stuff.. like for instance civil War stuff.
But they didnt use real bullets!!!

So those are those real nine inch nails???

They really nailed this kid to the cross??

Sounds like a form of Satan worshipping to me honestly..

Get out of town..

Some really nutty Mo Fo's in this world..
This is a joke right?

[edit on 23-3-2008 by zysin5]

err, how is this false prophets are misguided faith? Freedom of religion, people can do as they believe and worship as they please, so long it doesn't overlap the freedoms of another in a lethal way.

Originally posted by Sestias
In the Catholic faith suffering is thought to purify the soul.

Okay, I'm only offering an explanation here, so I don't need to be debated about this by those who don't subscribe to this.

Sufferring goes beyond purifying the soul in the minds of believers (though again, this particular practice is extreme). Sufferring is a way to accept Christ to the point of sharing in his sacrifice for us and knowing him better - becoming closer to him.

It is the media that makes this into a spectacle, this used to be a very private practice that went on for a long time as a devotional till the media got wind of it and turned it into the circus it is. There was a documentary I saw last year of a particular man who practices this and he was very humble and devout about it. It was a promise he made to God that he would do it for so many years if his terminal child lived. It is very important to him. Basically his intention was, I will share the sufferring of your son if I get to keep my child. It is not just the nailing to the cross, they carry the cross first then hang nailed on the cross for 3 hours if they can (many don't make it that long) which is extraordinary. However, they do know how to place the nails to avoid the nerves and what not to prevent losing use of them or causing permanent damage.

Maybe this helps explain (misguided though it may be) exactly what is going on here, but probably not. Whatever.

Originally posted by lee anoma
So many people misguided by false prophets. This sad barbaric display is far from necessary when the truth lies solely in us.

I don't know for sure, but they could be the ones with the true faith, and us believing the fools and false prophets.

I mean if god isn't bloodthirsty he sure lets us kill each other a lot.

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Question.....Shouldnt their hands be bleeding, a lot, if those nails are actually in their hands..???