Did humans coexist with Dinosaurs? any evidence suggesting, maybe?

reply to post by NewWorldOver


No, we don't co-exist with dinosaurs. I find children in the 4th grade not the best sources of academic research.

And a global flood is obviously impossible. Where did the water come from, and where did it go? How are there still animals? Why wasn't it recorded in the geological record? Why is there no evidence for it?

Come on - don't believe everything you hear because it's easiest to do so. Be rational. Deny ignorance.

That depends on what you mean by "human". If you mean Homo Sapien Sapiens, modern man, then obviously not. If you mean a distant ancestor of modern humans, then, perhaps.

A note for those who don't know..... and I would need to re-study the part where King David was hiding out in the wilderness, to find the reference. You can read and find the part.

He was concerned about what he called demons with big teeth that wandered in the wilderness. These demons were man eaters and looked like big reptiles. In reading that part, my conclusion was he was describing raptor or t-rex. I was leaning towards t-rex.

The interesting part is that we have a record of there being something big and vicious, that was real to those people at that time.

As I said, I would need to do the study over again to find the chapter and verse in the bible. It is there, and I was excited about that understanding, at the time.

[edit on 7-12-2008 by win 52]

Originally posted by win 52
A note for those who don't know..... and I would need to re-study the part where King David was hiding out in the wilderness, to find the reference. You can read and find the part.

He was concerned about what he called demons with big teeth that wandered in the wilderness. These demons were man eaters and looked like big reptiles. In reading that part, my conclusion was he was describing raptor or t-rex. I was leaning towards t-rex.

During the age of the dinosaurs, that area was underwater. There's no T-rex/raptor fossils in the area. Raptor-types are found elsewhere... the biggest bunch that I know about (number of bones at a site) is in New Mexico. T-Rex fossils that I know about come from the northern US and China.

The interesting part is that we have a record of there being something big and vicious, that was real to those people at that time.

It's the Book of Samuel you're looking for, and there's nothing in there about a reptile. If such things HAD been around, we would see them mentioned in the writings of other people who lived in the area... and there would be good/accurate art of the things. There would be requests to armies and kings for troops to take down the things.

Originally posted by prototism
That depends on what you mean by "human". If you mean Homo Sapien Sapiens, modern man, then obviously not. If you mean a distant ancestor of modern humans, then, perhaps.

Distant enough that they sorta looked like rats.

Really.

Nothing even vaguely anthropoid at that time.

reply to post by Byrd


They were more shrew-like back then. And yup - hardly humanoid

reply to post by jimmy1200


There are many proofs of man walking with dinosaurs, in fact many believe that dinosaurs still exist in the water mainly the plesiosaur like Nessie, ogo pogo, and several African ones.

There are throughout the world drawings of Dinosaurs and artwork of dinosaurs that are the correct shape, size and skin of what we know today to have existed. How could ancient civilizations done this if they did not see them. The first bones were unearthed in the early 180's and called Iguanadon.

The ica stones out of Peru are some of the best sources as is the writings of Marco Polo when he visited China and saw DRAGONS.

Before the word Dinosaur was invented mankind called dinosaurs Dragons and I don't have to go into how many references to dragons exist even to this day...

There are many places on earth where dinosaur prints and mans prints or tools were found together.

Search Google Video for Kent Hovind Seminars and check them out, particularly seminar 3.

reply to post by theindependentjournal


Umm... We have paintings of dinosaurs, so by your logic all those artists have seen them. Clearly that is not the case.

There is no evidence to suggest dinosaurs roamed the earth at the same time as us, and a metric shedload of evidence that they didn't.

Please stop parroting this nonsense - we're here to deny ignorance, not spread it.

So we are saying that ancient man never saw a dinosaur, let alone lived with any? They made up of this art on caves and sculptures as a form of fictional stories to tell their children to help them sleep at night? WOW!
Amazing how those fictional stories can turn into fact some 1000+ years later when archeologist find evidence of these creatures.
I believe this type of stuff more that I believe what the bible has to say. Where are all the supposed artifacts or places mentioned there. Funny, how we cant find that stuff, but we find the plenty ofstuff to dicredit the bible.

www.drdino.com

you might find some interesting information covering this topic on the website above...

reply to post by amitheone


I disagree, not that I'm saying that we did coexist with dinos, but the idea that mankind would just be killed off quickly seems false to me. The whale are near extinction because of us. With about five men, I could make a a dead fall which man would not fall into, but something as massive as a dino would. That meat would feed many men until it went bad. As for being smaller, this actually serves as an advantage in forests. All I'm saying is that if man can nearly hunt whales, the largest animals ever found, to extinction in rickety boats, the idea that we would be helpless when it came to dinos seems unlikely to me. There are reasons to believe that we did not coexist, but our frailty, does not seem likely. It is our wits that make us strong. A human can kill any animal if (s)he uses prior planning.

Its funny how easy some people claim to debunk the ica stones.

Its difficult to deny ignorance with poor research and close mind.

The big part of the reseach about the subject is not online because mostly has been printed in magazines and books in spanish

i have some of them including the ones where some spanish crew debunk the whole story but with poor evidence.

The thing is... there is a large number of stones and that number is impossible by the technique the debunkers claim to be done

There is substantial differences between the original stones and the ones "created" later

There is a BIG reason because these people "confessed" the hoax: Theres big laws against make profit of archaeological treasures.

So fear allow the explanation which the debunkers use...

Thats the same reason why they never gave the exact location where this stones were found.

Here in southamerica is known the existence of a big net of tunnels used by Incas but made probably in ancient times.....

When the spanish conquerors came here the incas had to hide a lot of his gold.

Some people claim that some of these tunnels had these libraries of stones from ancient civilizations.

The same ones who made "la puerta del sol" on Tiahuanaco

The same ones who maybe draw the original maps which the famous piri reis map were copied


The poor debunk on internet sites just shows poor research on the subject.

I think the ICA stones should be analyzed deeper...

because if in worst case scenario they are fake... they are the tip of the iceberg about the ancient links of southamerican cultures


Sorry but english is not my primary language

Hey Dave420; what have you to say about fossils of dinosaur footprints discovered with that of Hominids beside?

Originally posted by Byrd

Originally posted by win 52
A note for those who don't know..... and I would need to re-study the part where King David was hiding out in the wilderness, to find the reference. You can read and find the part.

He was concerned about what he called demons with big teeth that wandered in the wilderness. These demons were man eaters and looked like big reptiles. In reading that part, my conclusion was he was describing raptor or t-rex. I was leaning towards t-rex.

During the age of the dinosaurs, that area was underwater. There's no T-rex/raptor fossils in the area. Raptor-types are found elsewhere... the biggest bunch that I know about (number of bones at a site) is in New Mexico. T-Rex fossils that I know about come from the northern US and China.

I did read that again (the Bible). It wasn't there....the text referred to that part in Samuel, that was the revelation. I have not had time to dig deeper yet and find who referred to that text ... some how I think it was Jesus himself that referred those events??? I would need to do an in depth study of the bible again. I believe that would jump off the page again when I got to it.

I also seem to remember discussing with you about a flood in that area. You were quite insistent about there never being a flood in that area, as well as other areas. Now it was all under water.

That is my understanding. Is the oil in the Middle East a result of what is buried under the sand, just like the Bible reports about?

It's the Book of Samuel you're looking for, and there's nothing in there about a reptile. If such things HAD been around, we would see them mentioned in the writings of other people who lived in the area... and there would be good/accurate art of the things. There would be requests to armies and kings for troops to take down the things.

Again... if I had more time I would do a bible study with you so I could get your perspective on what took place and see if the Bible and other writings from that era did talk about those Demons with gnashing teeth roaming in the wilderness, from pre flood times, were still roaming around....at least a few that might have escaped a massive flood and cover up of evidence of the greatness humans had achieved pre-flood.

I also understand your views about our ancestry. If you chose to trust that line of reasoning, that is your right.

I am not a bible thump-er, however I have spent months studying those texts and other relevant documents. That was during a recovery period where I broke both feet and had more time to do that. I was spurred on by a voice warning me to get down off of the roof I was working on (3 times) minutes before I was blown off. I was trying to understand why I received that warning, supernatural as it was. I considered it to be by the grace of God back then. Never the less, an audible (to me) warning was given.

Now that leads to a whole other study.

I think the Flinstones are the single best piece of evidence around.

2nd ________

Has anybody mentioned the Cambodian dinosaur yet?
www.google.com...

There are videos also, search Youtube, showing a lot of the insane images carved into Ta Prohm Temple.

reply to post by THX-1138


Hi there. There was another thread on the Cambodian Stegosaur, you might like to check it out. Although the subject was debated, and opinions are fairly staunch; there was no definitive conclusion reached.!!
Enjoy-if you havent seen it already!

Originally posted by KRISKALI777
Hey Dave420; what have you to say about fossils of dinosaur footprints discovered with that of Hominids beside?

This was explained years and years and years and years ago.

More here.

reply to post by NewWorldOver


"A global flood is not impossible. Especially during a global pole shifts. In fact, there are situations like a pole shift, or the passing of a nearby planet (Planet X situation) where it would be impossible not to have a global flood."

You do realized, don't you, that the physical poles didn't ship, just the magnetic poles. Try this simple test. Take an 8,000 mile wide gyroscope made of almost solid iron, spinning at 1,000 mph, and tilt it over end-for-end. Wasn't hard was it? You'd only a few trillions foot/tons of force to do it.