ufo's over pentagon 1949

reply to post by beaversmill


Welcome to ATS, I am so glad you were willing to come by and share this picture with us. Personally I know nothing about photography, but we have some of the best guys around. I have to say the picture is very interesting, definitely unidentified to me, and the location is rather strange. Very nice photo if nothing else

I zoomed in fully in PS. took a screen shot.
Maybe this will be usefull, maybe not. I changed the colour balance also.

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[img=http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/48327/2001205958387218462_th.jpg]

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reply to post by MrPenny

Did the Coast to Coast people do any authentication on the Physical slide / negative? I have very little knowledge in the area of Photo manipulation, can a 35MM slide be altered? I would assume that the scans and Photos are subject to all the nasty shenanigans the hoaxers use, but if the original slide negative exists, then this could be a very interesting find.

Originally posted by oLDWoRLDDiSoRDeR
reply to post by VisionQuest

 

Still looks like dirt . Definitely looks like a splatter to me .

1) If it were mud splatter on a window, the splatters themselves would be too close to be in focus, as the camera would be inches from the window. These objects are in focus relative to the pentagon.

2) the objects in question are almost equidistant, mud does not splatter symetrically.

3) mud is generally not yellow

A fake? Quite possibly. Mud? I doubt it.





[edit on 13-3-2008 by VisionQuest]

I am alerting Jeff Ritzmann to this thread, welcome to ATS "beaversmill" and thanks for joining to share the details with us.

I will ask Jeff to have a look but as Internos has said looking at scans is worthless. I imagine Jeff will know of a way to get a more useful analysis done though.

Springer...

reply to post by andolin


The original slide or negative would be great to run past an expert. Once an image is captured in a digital format....manipulation is possible. Not saying it's been done here, although I am usually skeptical, but it is possible.

Nobody has commented on the light source, but me....hello???....the light source on the objects appears to be different than the lighting on the buildings.....hello????

Someone, including me, needs to search for photos of the Pentagon from this year.....at least to compare some of the trees and try to verify the provenance of these images.

[edit on 13-3-2008 by MrPenny]

IMHO... The photo is 100% real with no doctoring. What it is... is the only question. The images are without doubt from the Pentagon around 1949. The picture seems to highlight what is in the air and the Pentagon. Which is unusual at that point of vision. If one were only taking a photo of the Pentagon it would have filled the picture from left to right, it would not be that far off. If you notice the 4 visible UFO's are the center of attention here, they are the most centered object. With the grass visibly blurred in the foreground (median I presume) it appears that his Uncle was telling the truth about still driving. The story makes sense, does not sound far fetched. One thing to remember about radar, we have the stealth bomber (invisible to radar) today but not anti-gravity (as far as we know) If an Alien spacecraft can visit earth they could easily be invisible to radar. With the numerous sightings in the late 40's and early 50's this becomes a more believable story.

I have no doubt when the real deal appears on ATS that it will be debunked because the naysayers will always find something not right about the picture or video. Its really impossible to post anything on here real or not. It will be debunked, the only way for some of you is if it lands in your back yard and takes you away.

I really wish the High Def picture included the blur to the right by the pole as to me it looks like a helo rather than a barrage balloon.
Thanks to beaversmill for providing the hi-Res scan
But could you do a quick Hi-Res of the blur on the right by the pole.
Thank you


[edit on 13-3-2008 by Eagle1229]

My guess is that these are some geese flying from right to left in the pic, closer to the camera than the building.

Originally posted by FremenBlueEyes
i am pretty sure this has not been discussed here before.
how much can you say.
I was on C2C website and saw this photo. pretty amazing. it was a slide that this guy found that belonged to his uncle with pretty clear ufo's over the pentagon. Do what you guys do and let us know if it is real or not.

www.coasttocoastam.com...

if it is a slide it should be very hard to tamper with right?

Does the pentagon in 1949 have a "NO FLY ZONE"?

It does to this day correct?

Sheesh people, every single time a picture is examined the same nonsense is bandied about. For the last time, as soon as any form of compression is applied to a picture it is meaningless to study the image in any proper way. Things like pixelization around objects that are against a uniform backgroun are the natural result of the compression process, unless you have a direct scan of the original photograph or slide in an uncompressed format all the scrutinization at high zoom is completely meaningless.

thanks for so much interest in this. i contacted the person with the original picture and he seems more than happy, although a little reluctant due to the strangeness of something like this, to help us out.
I hope jritzman can come take a look and do what he does.
in reference to all of the hoaxers; whatever. do what you do, just as we need believers, we need skeptics and naysayers.
i for one believe the ricketts' testimony and believe that they have no intentions of trying to hoax something like this. they are very respectful and good people, as well as good americans.
i see no hoax here.

Anyone remember the Cartoon movie, Heavy Metal?

That had a part where the UFO came over the pentagon and picked up that scientist. When I first saw this thread, heavy metal came to mind.
Thats one of the few portraits of UFO over the pentagon.
Maybe its nothing, but I have always thought that all movies, shows and cartoon have 2 meanings.. First one is for enjoyment. The second message is the hidden message for those in the know.

Also I have noticed that all shows, movies, and songs are based off events that either is rumor, or did happen as was suppressed.
What better way than to turn something into fiction than to put it on TV.

Then when people hear about an event.. They think.. Wait I saw that on a TV show, or a movie.. Thats just hollywood..
But I honestly feel there is more to it than just a hollywood spin.
All those writters study conspiracy theroy deeply..
Its how most of them break "writters block".

Just my 2 cents

These are birds, guys...



[edit on 13-3-2008 by Zarniwoop]

Yellow birds, over the pentagon, Mmmmmmm?.

Can see in a way that it could be a blurry bird, but see the classic ufo shape without struggling.
Maybe its like making shapes from clouds, and we are trying too make a bird shape from a genuine ufo?.

I suppose if a bird can look like a ufo, then a ufo can look like a bird.

Ill keep an open mind on this one for a while, until someone can come up with a better answer.

reply to post by Zarniwoop


Are you saying that the eye witness comments are false then - because they do not describe birds.

You may as well speculate that they were yellow saucer shaped helium balloons moving erratically in varying strong winds strung on line hung from the internal points of the Pentagon rings.

Or alternatively that until positively identified they remain UFO's.

Originally posted by chunder
reply to post by Zarniwoop

 

Are you saying that the eye witness comments are false then - because they do not describe birds.

I'll give the eyewitness reports a 50/50 shot.

I'll keep an open mind on this as I always do.

Definitely a rare planetary alignment of Venus, top left, and jupiter Saturn and Uranus scattered round. That just happen to be in front of the clouds...

I can't wait to hear some expert analysis of the original with potential a non compressed full scan of the slide. It certainlty looks impressive. Also like someone previously mentioned, a high res scan of the blurred object to teh right would be nice; just to confirm it's a bird or a plane, or something different.

[edit on 14-3-2008 by Shere Khaan]

Originally posted by colz2000
I suppose if a bird can look like a ufo, then a ufo can look like a bird.

That's quotable

...and probably quite true.

you should use it as your sig

reply to post by Zarniwoop
Zarni,
Instead of an Ornithopter, they are more like an egg in a nest,
except for the far right object which has a Sikorskian look to it.