Buk SAM liable to jamming

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Here’s a just a start, and if you want to dig deeper, look for Karis’ built in rootkit/backdoor (software/hardware “bookmark”) and the activation codes which the French supplied to US cyberwarfare units.

Other then clear political and financial reasons (EU contracts), I highly suspect that the non-official driving force behind Finland’s push to phase out Buks is the built in bookmarks.

U.S. cyber warriors are hoping to hack into Iraq's Kari and Tiger Song air defense networks. France sold the Kari system to Iraq during the 1980s and it continues to provide the bulk of Iraqi air defense controls. The system relies on French-made computers linking mostly Russian made radars through a series of local command sites.
The fiber optic Tiger Song air defense network was installed in Iraq during the 1990s by China in violation of the U.N. ban on weapons sales to Baghdad. The Chinese network has been bombed several times, suffering only a slight degrade in service until Iraqi engineers could repair it.
Tiger Song is a more widely distributed network than the French Kari system and is similar to the Internet, allowing Iraqi mobile radars and missile units to link into the network from pre-positioned fiber optic sites. Both systems are linked together, with the French Kari network providing the overall command and control.
U.S. warriors hope to be able to penetrate the Kari and Tiger Song systems through computer links from the Internet or Iraqi phone system. The Tiger Song network is reportedly also cross-linked with an Iraqi oil pipeline communications network that employs microwave communications links. U.S. forces could tap into the Tiger Song system using the microwave links.
Another alternative is for U.S. Special Forces teams to penetrate Iraq and plant active electronic taps into the Iraqi systems. The Tiger Song network of fiber optic lines is much more difficult to attach hardware electronic taps to. However, U.S. cyber warriors may be able to use the same pre-positioned link points that Iraqi air defense units utilize.

archive.newsmax.com...

To clarify even further;

The Chinese-built “Tiger Song” fiber-optic air defense system used by Iraq is comprised of American-made technology obtained with a waiver from the Clinton Administration… The advanced fiber-optic system was a result of the friendship between General Ding Henggao, Commander of the Chinese Army military research bureau COSTIND [Commission on Science and Industry for National Defense] and then-US Defense Secretary William Perry...

Since I’m being constantly for “copy and pasting”, there’s a whole lot more juicy details in that article things like Stanford University, AT&T, etc;

“The Chinese army’s Electronics Bureau… modified the American fiber-optics communication system, changing it into a secure air-defense system. The Chinese military then exported the newly modified system to Iraq. The Iraqi air defense network, NATO code-named “Tiger Song,” is made of US and French fiber-optic parts modified by the Chinese military.”
In 2001, Iraqi anti-aircraft missiles, guided by Tiger Song, regularly target US fighter planes. And following the recent US-British attack on the system, Chinese military engineers are reportedly repairing damages to the system.

blog.barofintegrity.us...

Yet another proof positive “gem” of info, so there can be no surprises there on how Iraqi defense network really went down.

Chinese-built air defense system in Iraq contains US technology, Obtained in "Hue Mei" deal advocated by senior DOD officials
Editor: Al Santoli
February 23
The Chinese-built "Tiger Song" fiber-optic air defense system used by Iraq is comprised of American-made technology obtained with a waiver from the Clinton Administration, reports Charles Smith in NewsMax.com. The advanced fiber-optic system was a result of the friendship between General Ding Henggao, Commander of the Chinese Army military research bureau COSTIND [Commission on Science and Industry for National Defense] and then-US Defense Secretary William Perry.
Based on US documents obtained through the Freedom of Information Act, Smith pieced together the US technology transfer to China: In 1994, Professor John Lewis of Stanford University, a paid consultant simultaneously to both the U.S. Defense Department and for China, teamed with General Ding to buy an advanced AT&T fiber-optic communication system for "civilian use" inside China. According to the Far Eastern Economic Review, Secretary of Defense Perry wrote a letter to US Government export control officials, favoring the fiber-optic export to China. The venture was called "Hua Mei." The Chinese part of the venture was run by the newly formed firm, "Galaxy New Technology," with General Ding's wife, Madame Nie Li, as the head of the project.
With the support of Perry and the advice of Prof. Lewis, AT&T shipped the secure communications system directly to a Chinese Army unit, using Galaxy technology as a front. The so-called "civilian" Galaxy firm was packed with senior Chinese military officers, Smith discovered, who masked their true identities by using civilian prefixes. Madame Nie was not only the wife of General Ding, but actually Lt. General Nie Lie of the Chinese Army. Galaxy Director and president was Mr. Deng Changgru, also known as Lt. Colonel Deng Changru, head of the Chinese Army communcations corps. Co-General manager of Galaxy, "Mr." Xie Zhichao, also known as Lt. Colonel Xie Zhichao, director of the Chinese Army's Electronics Design Bureau.

www.afpc.org...

Let me guess, what will be the AATS points” penalty be this time, 20 points, 50 points, a 1000, or a week of solitary confinement?

Let me guess, what will be the ATS points” penalty be this time, 20 points, 50 points, a 1000, or a week of solitary confinement?

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reply to post by iskander


1 small and minor detail if i may

a fat lot of good tiger song did when the US led war machine bulldozed there way to iraq.

reply to post by Harlequin

a fat lot of good tiger song did when the US led war machine bulldozed there way to iraq.

Well, they did send SAS units to cut the cables, and a few of them got caught. Then the French just cut a deal and gave up the backdoors, thus rendering the network useless.

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It’s called sarcasm WestPoint, get used to it.

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not in 2003 they didn`t - all SAS troops sent in were accounted for.

reply to post by Harlequin

not in 2003 they didn`t - all SAS troops sent in were accounted for.

1991. Same deal, sent behind enemy lines to located and cut network and comms fiber optic cables.

Eventually the SAS captives were traded out for some Iraqis.