Dyatlov Pass Accident

Sorry if the is in the wrong area, I really did not know where to put this.

Does anyone know if this real or not?

Source - Dyatlov Pass Accident

This was my first time having heard about this and it is fascinating. The orange skin, high radiation, missing tongue. This is incredibly creepy. Your comments are welcome

Really good find.
This is some pretty interesting stuff.
Sounds like they could have been lured out of their camp somehow and attacked.
These flying lights seen also bring an interesting side into it.

Looks like pure speculation. If there were an explosion, it's effects would have been obvious to the investigators (after all, they bothered to carefully count the branches of the tree supposedly broken when a person tried to climb up). A blast powerful enough to fracture skulls of people is bound to leave a major mark on the environment, which it didn't.

I think the group fell victims to assault perpetrated by a gang of vagrants.

Although the internet has a wealth of information out there, it is becoming so hard to tell what is fact and what is not. For all I know this story could be a complete hoax. Or maybe just really embellished. It does make your imagination run wild though.

When I was young, I remembered the story about David Lang, who was walking across the grounds of his farm to meet Judge August Peck who was approaching his farm in a horse and buggy, when Lang vanished mid-step and in full view of the judge, his wife Chanel and his two children, and the judge's brother-in-law. The ground around where Lang had been walking was searched in case he had fallen into a concealed hole, but no trace was found. The story further states that Lang's children later called out to him, and heard a disembodied voice calling as if from a great distance.

It broke my heart years later to look it up on the internet only to discover it was a hoax.

reply to post by netobrev
That was a hoax? Can you give me the site you found it on?

From what i have read in other cases dealing with ufo contact. it seems like most of the victims were exposed to radiation or had some type of radiation poisoning and were ill because of the effects.
This case appears to have some type of ufo contact with the victims. The tanned effect on some of the victims would some how be connected with possibly very bright lights coming from some ufo and same with the high levels of radiation. maybe some were abducted and like the one who had his tongue removed would connect with alien mutilation possibly.
The lights in the sky is a sure sign of a ufo sighting around the time period also.
all this is just my opinion though and it could be anything really.

regards,

mcgilligan

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Hi neobrev,

Well I'm not sure if what I'm about to tell you is linked in any way ... but during some research for my book 'The Atlantean Analysis' I came across this interesting piece of information (concerning things turning-up in the wrong place from a different time), that involved the Ural's.

Exert from my book 'The Atlantean Analysis' - Chapter 12; High-tech Ancients ...

'A final reference to evidence of electrical lighting aids during ancient times, was found in the Ural Mountains, Russia. In 1981, a geologist stumbled upon a large quantity of strange metallic spirals lying around on the ground, whilst he was prospecting for gold. Later investigation (1992-1993), in the same locale found more of the same. In 1995, soil samples were being collected in the area and yet more spirals were found.

Finally, a sample of these peculiar spirals was sent for scientific analysis in an effort to determine their compound, age and possible origin. It was determined that said spirals were actually very fine filaments wrapped around a core compound of Osmium and Tungsten ... a chemical compound that is often used in lamp filiments and electrical contact points; and when blended with steel this particular compound is used in high-speed cutting tools !

...(How synchronistic) ...

But it gets better, further tests were carried out to date the spirals which came as a shock to all concerned when the determined age was put at somewhere between 80,000 - 100,000 years old. Furthermore, it was proven that these spirals were not natural formations ... but had been manufactured !!!

A later installment to this mystery was added about a year later, when an American journalist received an anonymous package that contained a diary from 1940, which had apparently belonged to the 'senders' deceased grandfather. A grandfather who had been based at the Roswell Airforce Base in New Mexico, when the diary had been witten (7 years prior to the infamous UFO crash).

The connection here is that the diary made several references to 'metallic spirals'. Along with the diary, the package had also contained a sample of this metal ... which was then sent to an English laboratory for testing. These test results showed the metal to be a layered structure of Bismuth and Magnesium. And coincidently, these samples proved to have been manufactured too, just like the others.

None of the scientists involved in the testing could state catagorically 'how' they had been made ... or indeed 'what' their purpose might have been. But they did conclude their report by saying;

'The Russian spirals resemble filaments around a core ... like lightbulb filaments. Whilst the Roswell sample is similar to the cemical compound used in flashbulbs'.
[end quote]

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So strange things seem to have been happening in this place for quite some time ... I'll try to find some more info and get back.

Woody

[edit on 14-3-2008 by woodwytch]

Ok, I'm back with a couple of links for you to check-out the ancient spirals I mentioned in my previous post.

Very interesting article that backs up the passage from my own book ...

www.mystae.com...

And some pictures of said metallic spirals for you to take a looksee ...

mmmgroup.altervista.org...

Looking for links to the Roswell diary now ... back soon.

By the way I have to say I'm a little surprised there hasn't been more interest in this ... what with it being a new type of subject ... guess people feel safer with the tried and trusted subjects ... like fuzzy UFO's and bigfoot sightings.

Woody

Originally posted by mcgilligan02
The tanned effect on some of the victims would some how be connected with possibly very bright lights coming from some ufo

If you ever did cross country skiing in snow-covered wilderness, you would know that it's easy to get tan and/or sunburn in a very short period of time, from all the light reflected off the shiny surface. In some cases, you may feel hot (and need to take off a few layers of your clothing) because the amount of solar energy thrown at you can be large, even in low ambient temperatures. I know because I did cross country skiing and mountaineering for a few years. I mean, you can get severely sun-burnt. No need to drag UFOs into this just to explain the tan.

Originally posted by woodwytch
But it gets better, further tests were carried out to date the spirals which came as a shock to all concerned when the determined age was put at somewhere between 80,000 - 100,000 years old.

How, pray tell, do you plan on determining the age of a Tungsten sample, huh?

Bogus.

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Easy tiger no need to get your loincloth in a twist 'buddah'.

You'd have to ask the scientists who performed the tests that ... maybe you could do some research yourself to find-out who they were and email them ... I'd be interested to hear what they had to say.

If I get chance later I'll try to find a contact for you ... unless we have any scientists here who might be able to provide an explanation of the possibility of such a test ???

You can still make a point without being highrate ... give it a try ... you might like the feeling.

Woody

Originally posted by buddhasystem

Originally posted by woodwytch
But it gets better, further tests were carried out to date the spirals which came as a shock to all concerned when the determined age was put at somewhere between 80,000 - 100,000 years old.

How, pray tell, do you plan on determining the age of a Tungsten sample, huh?

Bogus.

Dear buddhasystem, the answer is very simple: They determined the age of the sedimentary deposits where the spirals were found. It is as if I dig a hole in very old deposits and put a lightbulb in the hole and fill the hole with the excavated material. That does not make the lightbulb as old as the deposits.

The layer which contains the spiral-shaped objects is characterised as gravel and detritus deposits of No. 3 stratum, which in our view, show inner-sedimentary erosion of polygenetic accumulative layers (i.e. layers composed of material of various origins). From their orientation these layers can be dated to 100,000 years and correspond to the lying parts (i.e. the lower regions) of the Mikulinsk horizon of the upper Pleistocene.

source: Matveyeva, E.W. Conclusions on the finds of threrad-shaped tungsten spirals in the alluvial deposits of the Balbanyu river. ZNIGRI Analysis 18/485 of 29 Nov. 1996

@woodywitch

This looks a bit like somebody trying to hijack this thread for the promotion of your book...
As you admit you are "not sure if what I'm about to tell you is linked in any way..."
The link you provided (mmmgroup.altervista.org...) contains a mixture of some well known hoaxes, lies and misinterpretations old as the hills.
I am amazed that some people still make money recycling this stuff. I hope that you didn't collect the material for your book just by using dubious internet sources.

Regards, Pontifex

[edit on 14-3-2008 by Pontifex]

i am pretty sure that this has already been covered in another post. this has been in the news lately and i am almost positive that this has been on here before. still, pretty cool mystery!

Originally posted by woodwytch
You'd have to ask the scientists who performed the tests that ... maybe you could do some research yourself to find-out who they were and email them ... I'd be interested to hear what they had to say.

I've read some materials in Russian, on that topic. I would say that the methods used were highly inconclusive -- for one, it's hard to exclude contamination of older geological strata with surface material, given the crude methods that they used.

There is apparent close similarity of spirals to filaments used in incandescent bulbs, so for now that's what it looks like to me -- or cathode components of vacuum tubes widely used in military electronics. Probably debris spread over a very large area, as a result of some kind of test firings of missiles or other such activity.

Now, back to the thread.


[edit on 14-3-2008 by buddhasystem]

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Hi there Pontifex,

I'm so sorry ... to you and anyone else for that matter, who thought I added the post to promote my book ... it was certainly not my intention. I feel really bad now ... not to mention stupid!!!

I just thought it was an interesting coinidence when I read the OP (simple as).

I did a search after reading the OP ... and picked out a couple of the results, just to show what the spirals looked like. And no ... I never use internet sources (dubious or otherwise), for my research, but I thank you for your concern.

My post was innocent but I see my input is not wanted here, so I shall retreat back under my rock and bother you no longer.

To the OP... please accept my genuine appologies ... it would seem I've been very naive ... I didn't realize my post would be seen in the way that has been suggested by Pontifex.

Woody

Hey buddah,

Bright Flying Spheres’In 1990, the chief investigator, Lev Ivanov, said in an interview that he had been ordered by senior regional officials to close the case and classify the findings as secret. He said the officials had been worried by reports from multiple eyewitnesses, including the weather service and the military, that “bright flying spheres” had been spotted in the area in February and March 1959.

hmm. . this is where I do decide to "drag" ufos into this post being which it is my post in this forum.

regards,
mcgilligan

What I find intriguing is the panic that seemed to of occurred, resulting in the Skiiers evacuating their tent in such a hurry.

What would of caused that? This isn't grounds for random conjecture with regards to ridiculous theories. These people experienced something that scared them #less and those spheres might of had something to do with them leaving their camp in a hurry and thus becoming disoriented and dieing to the elements.

im pretty damn sure it is real!
ive read that the governments public files are missing a lot of pages. and its been closed off for a long time, thier government is hidding something.
i also read speculation- from the same source- that the victims were blind when they made thier last camp. there were a lot of things they did that suggested they couldnt see.
i think its also interesting to consider that something happend before they fled from their tents. something had to have happend prior if they were really blind.
im still wondering y her tongue was ripped out?? its crazy to try to make it make sense.
also- i do not believe it was an explosion, i didnt read anything about burn marks or nothing. just that their skin was orange and hair was white.
i still have a lot more research to do though.
i will add more later.
ASHESMIND

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Netobrev:
I've came across you posting recently after hearing other similar postings in this few past days.
I live in the extreme north and the only way I can think of is too leave behind any clothing or equipment vital to survival is that the threat these people were running from had to real and present.
Off-hand I can only think of a series of air explosions which appear to move in their direction.
Another explanation I heard was these people were trying to escape from a presence within the tent.
Neither of explanations takes into account the other anomalies within the story
Perhaps other readers will come up with a better scenario or add to these possibilities.

I have thought of the unfortunate and unexplained death of these students for some time and as Spock stated
in Star Trek – quoted from Sherlock Holmes “… when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth…”
I originally thought that it may have been the Russian army with concussion bombs that were dropped on them by accident.
The army had used this location for secret tests.
Some mention that the army secretly arrived at the crime scene 1 week before the rescuers found the bodies.
This could answer a few of the mysteries but not all!
Why their tent was on the side of the mountain and not logically down at the tree line for shelter and fire wood?
The army could have moved the tent up the mountain to change the crime scene.
Why there was radioactive material on some of the clothing and why they were not wearing any protective clothes for the harsh climate?
The army could have changed their clothes and confiscated clothing which showed being radioactive.
Though all good explanations, I do believe there is only one explanation that holds up to all facets of this case!
Yeti or Abominable Snow Man encounter!
Why would anyone set up camp on the side of the mountain when there was a forested shelter a short distance down the mountain?
On research I found that the small tent used was not their main tent – they had left supplies at a base camp and were using this very small tent for an excursion.
What was their purpose for climbing the Ural mountain range?
I googled Russian news broadcast for 1958 and there was an interesting account a few months earlier of Yeti encounters on this range. That year a number of local Mansi tribe people disappeared.
After this investigation the Russian Government banned all further investigation or reporting on the Yeti with threats of incarceration.
These students may have been acting as investigating reporters and photographers and had to have a cover to conceal their true purpose.
The one person they added to their close group was a guide familiar with this territory. A note on a printed paper in their possession was scribed “From now on we know that the snow men exist”.
Although they used guns to protect themselves in this wilderness terrain for previous trips (pictures show), they did not carry them this time in case they were stopped and questioned.
Whatever attacked them in their tent did not bite or claw but had extreme power to crush
A similar attack at Yale BC in the 1800’s by some gold miners who claimed to have captured a baby Sasquatch and in Washington State 1920’s of an attack: www.bigfootlives.com...
In 1946 Cultus Lake BC a newlywed couple disappeared from their cabin with only large footprints found surrounding it.
Case Scenario
The illogical pitching of their tent in the open may have been due to a scare from the locals at the last settlement which told them about reindeer being found dead in this area.
They may have felt more secure making camp in the open rather than down within the trees.
After taking off their heavy outerwear and boots and due to the small space within the tent along with the moisture and smell, they would have left this clothing outside, at the back of the tent with their packsacks to dry out. They could have left them in what appears to be an overhang on the rear of the tent where the exhaust stove chimney exits.
They entered the tent in their long johns and tent slippers and had supper.
Shortly after supper 2 of the men went outside to urinate (documented) with a flashlight, which they left on the roof of the tent (documented) and a lighter and cigarettes to have a smoke. It was written in their diary that the women did not want them smoking in the hotel rooms or tent.
While out they were attacked and forced to flee down to the forest for cover.
There they built a fire for warmth and to keep any predators away.
On hearing the commotion outside the tent, 3 students went outside to help with a flashlight and were also attacked.
They fled down the mountain unable to reach their outerwear at the back of the tent.
The Yeti’s attack then centered on the 4 remaining students left in the tent.
The Yeti unable to open the tent door or cut through began to pound on the center of the tent with the students inside slicing their knives back through the tent in defense. It has been reported that Yeti can use sticks as weapons and may have poked through the open slits of the tent with one of the ski poles. It was documented that numerous knife cuts were found on one of the ski poles
The Yeti attack temporarily stopped when they noticed the fire down at the tree line and the 3 students heading towards it with the flashlight (documented and found on this trail still in the on position).
The Yeti have been reported that they are not afraid of fire or light.
The Yeti caught the 3 students before they could reach the tree line.
Yeti use their large powerful arms to club and then bear hug their quarry until subdued and unconscious, all similar injuries reported on the students.
Seeing that the fire was attracting the Yeti the 2 students at the tree tried to franticly put it out, it was reported that one of these student’s hands were burnt possibly by this action.
Next they proceeded to climb a tree.
The report claimed they had climbed the tree to observe if their tent was still there to return to for their survival gear.
The problem with this was that it was after sunset in winter in Russia.
I googled if there was a full moon that night and there was not, so it would have been pitch dark.
The only reason to climb a tree at night would be to try and elude a predator.
It has been stated that Sasquatch can climb trees.
One of the students was found a few hundred feet from the tree still clutching a branch as if he had been dragged down from the tree.
When the remaining 4 students of the group did arrive at the tree they found their companions dead so they removed what clothing they could to keep warm rather than return to their tent and what they thought was back there.
They then went to a ravine and dug a snow cave for shelter.
Unfortunately the Yeti were waiting for them in the forest and pursued them, cornering them at the ravine some short distance away and finished them off.
One problem with the Yeti theory is that no foot prints were ever found.
The explanation is it was sometime after the encounter, in winter, in a valley known for wind.
The Yeti/Sasquatch have a very large bipedal foot, much like a bear paw snow shoe which would leave a very flat shallow print.
These prints would easily disappear with weather conditions.
The final explanation may be the hardest to believe and that is - why have no further sightings or findings been made of Yeti in this location?
With all our technologies these mountains and the world in general have become a lot smaller but the Universe is immense and unknown.
There were unexplained lights in the sky at this location seen by other observers.
Strange creatures have been reported all over the world with similar globe light occurrences (Kentucky Goblin Encounter,Chupacabras, Ogopogo, Lochness Monster, and other such things).
Many documented encounters with Sasquatch have been reported with similar globe lights seen in the vicinity.
Could it be that there are time portals throughout the Universe and these creatures accidently pass through them?
Could a nuclear blast such as the 1957-58 Russian accidental nuclear explosion at Kyshtym ( just a few miles south
of Oblast Swerdlowsk where these students were) cause a rip in our universe?
This accident reportedly killed 1000’s of people and contaminated a 100 square kilometer area with high level radiation.
Could the radiation on their clothing have come from physical contact with these entities or the terrain
itself?
One such strange occurrence happened in Manila in 1593 where a guard was suddenly transported to Mexico City
www.psychic101.com...
All in all strange and unexplained things happen and it is left up to us to ponder what the truth might be.
Thanks for your ability to have your mind open to care for an explanation for these unfortunate beings