Alien Spaceship(?) Shooting Plasma-Like Jets Near Saturn!!

I would just like to state that I think this is an exceptional thread.

I starred it and flagged it last week but didn't respond cos this is totally way over my head...

Just wanted to praise the efforts here.

It's almost as if people don't read the entire thread. Of course they don't. But at least do yourself a favor and read posts on the last page where your reply is going to be.

The "jet" was already explained as lens flare. You'll see it every time this object enters or exits the camera's view.

k it might not be camera flare in my opinion (keep in mind im only 16)saturn is made up of gas so the ship could be refueling and those pics might be in reverse order then they should be so if u reverse the animation it might really be sucking up the gases thats my theory

[edit on 8-3-2008 by shadowjester]

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Hey there Internos, congrats on your promotion!

Sorry for the confusion, I intended to compare the Tethys photos to this pic:


Both taken by Cassini, both imaging Tethys? Different distances of course, but still, you'd think Cassini would be able to resolve on an almost perfect sphere from such a measly distance, right?

Great posts yourself, I loved the idea to turn these images into gif animations, took the investigation to a whole new level, well done!

-WFA

Originally posted by Ionized
reply to post by WitnessFromAfar

 

It seems most are ignoring my post explaining that a possible cause for the dispersion and changing shape of the exit flare is due to the fact that the object was in orbital motion and effectively about to change direction just off the lens of the camera.

Now this is intereseting, and I apologize Ionized if I missed it.
I see what you mean, that since the object was in motion the 'ray' of lens flare could distort to show a 'blur' or imagined dispersal pattern.

I don't agree with this analysis though, as I understand it, the 'ray' is the flare effect, and we're talking about each frame at a time here. Even in motion, we would expect a ray. In fact, several of the examples pointed out before show this.

Originally posted by Ionized
Also, in this case the sun and the 'magic bullet' analysis doesn't apply, the sun isn't the source of the flare, the reflection of light from the moon is. You can treat the moon as a point source of light in this case, the angle of the sun relative to it makes no difference at all in this analysis. In fact I can't help but think that was thrown out as a distraction tactic.

I'm going to try my best not to take offense. I assure you I mean to distract nobody.

So let me get this straight, the 'moon/object' is glowing? Radiating it's own light? Sorry, I don't think so. ALL light in our solar system (excluding man-made lighting) comes from stars, MOST of that light comes from the Sun.

When you are looking at light from a moon, what you are actually seeing in light from the Sun bouncing off of the moon and hitting your retina, or the camera's lens.

My example was valid, and it had nothing to do with the angle of the sun hitting the 'moon/object'. It had to do with the power of the light hitting Cassini's lens.

Overexposure causes a flare, in this case we're talking about light originating at the Sun, bouncing off of Saturn, THEN bouncing off of the 'moon/object' and then travelling to the camera. This same 'moon/object' that DOES NOT flare the lens while the bright 'moon/object' is actually in the frame, but is supposed to somehow cause the flare upon exiting the frame?

Like I said, sounds a lot to me like Oswald's magic bullet.

Originally posted by Ionized
Also, you CAN see the flare from Saturn, it takes up a major portion of the image! It is the big white diffuse and striated looking area. It doesn't appear to change or move because with respect to the camera Saturn is stationary in the images it is centered at the bottom of the frame.

This image is the one that I am referencing:

I'll refer you to the work of MikeSingh above for your answers in this last section, as I feel you are addressing his explanation regarding lens flare from Saturn.

Originally posted by WitnessFromAfar
reply to post by internos

 

Sorry for the confusion, I intended to compare the Tethys photos to this pic:


Both taken by Cassini, both imaging Tethys? Different distances of course, but still, you'd think Cassini would be able to resolve on an almost perfect sphere from such a measly distance, right?

Great posts yourself, I loved the idea to turn these images into gif animations, took the investigation to a whole new level, well done!

-WFA

Thanks, WitnessFromAfar
Ok, here's what i know about this pic:
it has been posted here by jbecker: he referred to this website ( i don't know if it has been posted before that time):
The website in question mentions three pics from Cassini:

N00062208.jpg

N00062208.jpg was taken on May 23, 2006 and received on Earth May 24, 2006. The camera was pointing toward TETHYS at approximately 508,065 kilometers away, and the image was taken using the CL1 and CL2 filters. This image has not been validated or calibrated. A validated/calibrated image will be archived with the NASA Planetary Data System in 2007.

saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...


N00061935.jpg

N00061935.jpg was taken on May 23, 2006 and received on Earth May 24, 2006. The camera was pointing toward TETHYS at approximately 508,727 kilometers away, and the image was taken using the CL1 and CL2 filters. This image has not been validated or calibrated. A validated/calibrated image will be archived with the NASA Planetary Data System in 2007.

saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...


N00061934.jpg

N00061934.jpg was taken on May 23, 2006 and received on Earth May 24, 2006. The camera was pointing toward TETHYS at approximately 509,689 kilometers away, and the image was taken using the CL1 and CL2 filters. This image has not been validated or calibrated. A validated/calibrated image will be archived with the NASA Planetary Data System in 2007.

saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...



Frankly, i don't know why they did put them in this order, anyway, i've made an animation with the three frames in question:



the framerate is 1:1 sec.

The anomaly is that the camera was pointing toward TETHYS, which is the bright moon that you see almost at the center of frames 1 and 2: but of course, frame 3 can't be a close-up of TETHYS since the background is unaltered (no zoom).

[edit on 8/3/2008 by internos]

Here's a web site, Digital Journal, that's referred this topic. But they've shown the wrong pic!! The 'gas jet' is the one they should have shown! But anyway they've linked ATS to it for the other pics!



Is big brother watching too?

Cheers!

www.digitaljournal.com...

[edit on 8-3-2008 by mikesingh]

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What's behind that glare? Here's what the object looks like without it...



So that doesn't look like any moon of Saturn, what?



[edit on 9-3-2008 by mikesingh]

Originally posted by mikesingh
reply to
So that doesn't look like any moon of Saturn, what?

Mike: i swear that i have no idea what the heck is that one: i'm puzzled since the first time i've seen it.
THIS is Tethys, i don't know what the heck is that one ...

saturn.jpl.nasa.gov...

This time we may retrieve the calibrated image on NASA Planetary Data System. I'll check.

Mmm, i barely see something that looks like a cylinder:

but it's definately too hard to find out what really is there behind that glare... Honestly, i have no idea

[edit on 9/3/2008 by internos]