Who Built the Moon?

Has anyone read the book 'Who Built the Moon'? I'm currently 3/4 of the way through it and finding it fascinating.

It examines many theories of how the moon came to be and also provides a bucketload of interesting facts and coincidences with regard to the relation of the earth, sun and moon.

One part suggests that the moon was put there as a way of informing us that there is other life out there, and only when our intelligence reached a certain level (i.e. we made it onto the moon) the moon would relay a message back to whoever put it there, very much like 2001: A Space Odyssey.

It sounds far fetched reading what I just wrote but the book worded it much better!

I just wondered if anyone else had read this book and if it changed the way they think about the moon?

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I have read it, and it just confirmed what I already suspected: there are always going to be people who need a little bit more and invent conspiracy theories to keep themselves occupied.

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So if the moon was put to us as a way of showing us random crap, does that mean that every other planet that has a moon harbours intelligent life and their moon was put there for the same reason?

Like f*** does it...

That's a silly question. Jesus built the moon.

Working as an estate agent in Germany I had a client who had to sell his house to pay out his wife,who wanted a divorce because she was fed up with the UFOs hovering above their house all the time.Her husband became a UFO hunter instead.All his friends left him.I asked him where the UFOs were coming from and he said from the moon.I believed him!Because I saw all the photos he took of these objects and his stories were utterly amazing.He once even burnt his face while coming too close.
I also read the book about the moon and everything else thats on the market and I just KNOW that they are not only on the moon but everywhere.

The planet we call our Moon was put in place to control and nurture life on the sister planet Earth by what we would call alien beings. The pictorials from the planet Moon tell a story of what type of life exists above and below the surface.

A breathable atmosphere indeed front and far side of the planet Moon. You are told this can not be possible, a breathable atmosphere and certainly life does not exist. Ever wonder certain times in your life why something happened in your life that you thought was coincidence. We are under the looking glass from our planet Moon.

Why are we humans on Earth openly not on the Moon but secretly we are there?
Who controls your life on Earth? I will receive many answers to this question. If you are as free as you think you are why do you not know about life existing on the planet Moon? Rik Riley

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rikriley, those were some incredible assertions. As always, here at ATS, we would like to think that incredible claims will always be supported by incredible evidence.

I would kindly ask for more than just YOUR word on these ideas, and I am guessing others will as well.

Laying my cards on the table: It is a simple proposition. Please show us, a fairly small community here at ATS, hungering for knowledge, why hundreds of thousands of scientists and space researchers are wrong, but a dozen or so are other people are correct, as it relates to the Moon, its origin and basic structure (by structure, I did not mean to imply it was constructed, perhaps 'selenology' is a better term).

I think, also, your responses should be able to encompass and satisfactorily explain other natural satellites in our Solar System.

Provide other examples of 'tidal lock', cases where the satellite may tend to keep one hemisphere always facing the Mother planet. Show examples of 'retrograde' orbits from some satellites.

We are excited by this, because science is meant to improve, advance, and educate.

Thanks.

First go to Moon Pictures on ATS look at my last 2 entries page 259 on thread this will shine some light on my thoughts about the Moon.

As far as ATS being a small community with 4 million hits it has got quite large since I joined ATS Christmas day 2004.

The problem I have most humans do not see what I see when I view or scan photos from the planet Moon.

Why are hundreds of thousands of scientists and space researchers wrong? I do not know each scientist and space researchers true knowledge of what they are willing to share about the planet Moon. Many work for the government including institutions that receive grants, companies that are contracted by the government and are bound by secrecy. So that number hundreds of thousands can mean anything to me. Who wants to lose their job or paycheck for divulging the truth about what they know about the Moon.

The explanation I would give you and others will not be to your satisfaction on the other satellites and I am assuming you mean moons of the solar systems planets. The term natural to mean has a broad definition.

Tidal lock is controlled by aliens way more advanced then we on Earth. The gravity is controlled by artificial gravity fed force field from the planet Moon with a synchronous positioning lock.

If you are referring to man made satellites above the Earth of course you will have a deteriorating orbit. The Earth with larger mass gravity tends to pull smaller objects that do not have an artificial gravity toward itself. Weight is also created by a specific gravity on a given planet. Rik Riley






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Dear rikriley,

ATS is indeed a great community, and it NEARLY encompasses 4 million, but not quite yet, as you can see by the THREAD that is predicting the 4 million'th' (I made that up) visitor.

See, there are NOT 2 MILLION or 1 MILLION or even 500,000 online at ATS at any given moment....

The nearly 4 MILLION number is related to the number of people who have signed up, and THAT is incredible...doesn't mean they are ALL online at the same time!

But, my original questions to you, in no particular order, were...show us HOW the Moon was put in orbit, in it's current orbit, by artificial means. I know, those weren't the words I used the first time, but they convey the point!!

Please re-read my earlier post, and then provide your answers.

We awaite your responses.

Thanks.

You see, it's this kind of nonsense that really stops a lot of intelligent people entering discussions about ET life. As usual we shal deal with the points one at a time:

Originally posted by rikriley
The planet we call our Moon was put in place to control and nurture life on the sister planet Earth by what we would call alien beings. The pictorials from the planet Moon tell a story of what type of life exists above and below the surface.

Great theory!!! Could you please explain how this obvious pictorials on "Planet Moon" show such a thing? I have been looking at the Moon with various telescopes as well as many lunar pictures taken from various spacecraft for many years, and have seen nothing like this. If you could explain these great leaps in understanding that would be helpful.

Originally posted by rikriley
A breathable atmosphere indeed front and far side of the planet Moon. You are told this can not be possible, a breathable atmosphere and certainly life does not exist. ...

Really? Would you care to explain why the features on the lunar surface are crystal sharp, while those features of planets with atmospheres are obscured? Why is there no weather on the Moon? Why do we see none of the dynamical changes and effects of an atomosphere on the Moon? Why are Lunear atompsheric effects strangley absent during lunar and solar eclipses or indeed in general at all?

Originally posted by rikriley
Who controls your life on Earth?

Nature.

Originally posted by rikriley
If you are as free as you think you are why do you not know about life existing on the planet Moon?

Perhaps people should master thinking "inside the box" before they have a go at outside the box?



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Originally posted by weedwhacker
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Dear rikriley,

ATS is indeed a great community, and it NEARLY encompasses 4 million, but not quite yet, as you can see by the THREAD that is predicting the 4 million'th' (I made that up) visitor.

See, there are NOT 2 MILLION or 1 MILLION or even 500,000 online at ATS at any given moment....

The nearly 4 MILLION number is related to the number of people who have signed up, and THAT is incredible...doesn't mean they are ALL online at the same time!

But, my original questions to you, in no particular order, were...show us HOW the Moon was put in orbit, in it's current orbit, by artificial means. I know, those weren't the words I used the first time, but they convey the point!!

Please re-read my earlier post, and then provide your answers.

We awaite your responses.

Thanks.

No there are 132,359 members signed up and the 4 million number ATS is talking about is 3,957,029 total posts and getting close to the 4 million mark.

A little comparison In Sept. 2006 there were 773,009 total visits and in Jan. 2008 there were 1,794,504 total visits during the calender month WOW way to go ATS.

I was not there when the planet Moon was thrusted or towed into place by aliens and do not have a video of the event. Rik Riley

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Whilest your trying to answer weedwhacker questions, any chance you can explain why Planet Moon's atmosphere shows no signs of being there at all?

Originally posted by rikriley
I do not know each scientist and space researchers true knowledge of what they are willing to share about the planet Moon. Many work for the government including institutions that receive grants, companies that are contracted by the government and are bound by secrecy. So that number hundreds of thousands can mean anything to me. Who wants to lose their job or paycheck for divulging the truth about what they know about the Moon.

The usual conspiracy theory drivel. What aboutg the many millions of amateur astronomers all over the world who have confirmed many of these ideas (like the fact that your planet Moon has no atmophere?) How have these people been fooled?

and for the second time in two days my BS detector rises and stays nailed to maximum...

sorry, its a big rock. and thats all it is.

I believe what i believe, you believe what you believe, just don't go trying to convince other more gullible people that your unsubstantiated ideas are fact.

end of discussion.

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All points taken into account, was there not a wind detected on the moon not so long ago? caused by the rising sun if my mind serves me right, this was reported by NASA when i have time tomorrow i will find and post , unless another member knows where it is.

While the chances of the moon being flown into position are really really low, you still cant ignore the facts of coincidence? right size right distance, right mass, all exactly coincidently right to be able to achieve some of the fantastic things we witness because of the moon? tides, eclipses, and always being there at the right time for ancient man to be able to survive, ( phases of the moon on when they decided times of year to do things) as well as the sun also, the sun more for growing and the moon for the spiritual, both together are an amazing coincidence.

So when it all comes down to it, its all about what you believe, dont expect modern science to be able to answer the questions for you because it cant, they just take best theory add in a sprinkling of acceptability, make sure science is unlikly to discover the truth in the next 20 yrs and you are all set, unless of course peoples unwillingness to believe science like it used too, and we all have a new can of worms to contend with.. IMO

I believe the prevailing theory of the Moon's formation, based on the science of the Lunar samples, is that the Moon is a honk of the primordial Earth, flung out by an impact with another body, as the Solar System was still forming, and it was a virtual 'shooting gallery' as the original dust cloud accreted, and the various 'lumps' further accreted.

So, billions of years ago (3, 4? ) the primordial Earth and now this 'hunk of flesh' that is orbiting the planet are hot, mostly molten, and gradually cooling and solidifying, while the heaviest elements sink into the center, the core. This is a function of gravity.

One other part of this current theory is that the body we call the Moon was once in a much lower orbit, maybe as close as 50,000 miles. During the billions of years that have passed the orbit has gradually spiraled out, to where it is at present. Billions of years from now, the Moon will be thousands of miles farther away yet.

The fact of the changing Moon's orbit is verified by the laser targets left by Apollo. Science can measure precisely as the disance is measured at the same points in the orbit, and as these measurements have been conducted since the 1970s, there is a definate change in distance from Earth. I believe it is only a few centimeters in the last four decades.

The Earth-Moon system that has existed for 3 or 4 million years, could be considered as a 'double' planet. This may have had a beneficial effect on the main planet, Earth, stabilizing and allowing for life to evolve.

We humans have a tendency to think "Since we're here, it must all be for us" but they often forget how many, many other species have come and gone in the past ages of life on Earth. Who can say that, if circumstances were different, one of the dinosaur species might have developed intelligence? It's speculative, but fun to think about.

Someone once compared the age, and I forget if it was the age of our Solar System, or the age of the Universe, to a round-dial clock. On that scale, the entire existence of modern humans only encompasses the last few seconds of the last minutes before midnight (this on a twelve-hour clock face, for clarity).

Originally posted by timelike
Whilest your trying to answer weedwhacker questions, any chance you can explain why Planet Moon's atmosphere shows no signs of being there at all?

Quite the contrary I believe a breathable atmosphere exists on the planet Moon as does John Lear but I think Zorgon still has reservations about if there is a breathable atmosphere or not. If you will go to www.thelivingmoon.com page 224 Zorgon has an interesting discussion about a possible atmosphere on the Moon. Go to AS8-12-2225 more cloud cover on the Moon. Also Pegasus Research consortium for discussions on atmosphere on the Moon. Complements of Zorgon. Rik Riley

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rikriley is wrong!

The moon was not built by aliens. It was made by the famous Sicilian cheesemaker Guiseppe Pongiori not long before the Mafia finally caught up with him. The mafiosi wanted to know what Guiseppe had done with old Don Lune's emeralds, the ones his brother stole. But Guiseppe hid the map to the hiding-place inside a freshly-made four-pound gorgonzola, and though they tortured him for a week he would not tell. So they killed him and mutilated his body in the traditional fashion. By the time the corpse was found, the gorgonzola was nice and ripe.

After the funeral, Guiseppe's sister-in-law Mortadella stole the cheese, which should have gone to his children according to his will. Mortadella sneaked it out of the cellar and happily scurried off with it tucked under her skirts (so that if anyone caught a whiff of it they would think it was just her bad personal hygiene, and not be suspicious). But on the way home she was abducted by aliens, who were curious about the smell and meant to probe her to find out what caused it.

Of course, they never got that far, because when they knocked her out with their ray guns she lost hold of the cheese as she fell and it rolled out from under her skirt.

So they left her behind and abducted the cheese instead. Then they set off back home to the Graham Cracker Nebula. But the odour of Guiseppe's gorgonzola was so strong it immediately overpowered the atmosphere generators and everyone aboard the flying saucer began to choke.

So they tossed the gorgonzola overboard, injecting it into an elliptical orbit whose average distance from Earth was roughly 400,000 kilometres.

That's the moon. The scientists are wrong when they say it shines with reflected sunlight. It shines because it all ripe and covered with luminous mould.

So rikriley is wrong, I'm afraid. There aren't any aliens on the moon, observing us or anyone else, because aliens can't bear the stink of Guiseppe's masterpiece.

He's right about one thing, though: the moon does have an atmosphere. It iss composed entirely of gorgonzola cheese fumes.

Its been scientifically proven yet again that the moon is part of the earth that was smashed off through massive planetary collision. Through millions of years of being bombarded with rocks, it is now the shape it is.

Edit: Sorry weedwhacker didn't see your post, that is pretty much how the moon was formed.

[edit on 2-3-2008 by Teki187]

Hi.
I'm not going to enter into any arguments here, but for those who are interested, there are two books by Don Wilson.
'Our mysterious spaceship Moon.' and
'Secrets of our spaceship Moon.'
Truth, or otherwise, I found them interesting and entertaining.
You can probably find them on a certain well known website at a reasonable price.
Happy reading.